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HOW MANY SPEED SAILING SPOTS IN AUSTRALIA ?

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Created by stroppo > 9 months ago, 12 Jul 2014
stroppo
WA, 728 posts
12 Jul 2014 9:38PM
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I'm wondering what spots and how many speed sailing spot there are in all the states and who has the most WAs
from the top down the state
shark bay [ not sure how many ]
Cervantes
Melville [ a few in this area maybe 3]
Woody's
The beaver
Rsoles [WAs fastest so far] for anybody not local its the next closest place to the beaver hence the name !
Peel inlet [ chook pond, fangys, boombas, hardies run, alpha land, ward pt, pt grey,island pt, liptons ]
Australind
Augusta
Albany lilacs
thats all i could think of at this time of night any more anybody
I'm thinking AUSTRALIA has maybe has 50 spots ???????????????

John340
QLD, 3116 posts
13 Jul 2014 1:24AM
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In SE Queensland from the NSW boarder
The Train
KFC
Couchiemudlow banks
Wellington Pt
Golden Beach
Burrum Heads
There may be others


vando
QLD, 3416 posts
13 Jul 2014 12:08PM
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So makes a spot a speedsurfing spot. flatwater, windy or maybe speed (40knots 5x10).
speed would be a good indicator for what's a good speed spot

For Qld you could add Lota creek and Green Island

decrepit
WA, 12092 posts
13 Jul 2014 11:42AM
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And another for Queensland, you locals don't seem to sail.



Taylors Beach. Here's Mal and I having it all to ourselves.


izaak
TAS, 1973 posts
13 Jul 2014 2:16PM
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Spots over 40knots in tas, listed below. Plenty more spots, just under though!

Stanley East Inlet
Port Sorell
Henty River
Montagu
Stanley West Inlet
Doran's Road

Windxtasy
WA, 4014 posts
13 Jul 2014 12:26PM
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This thread could be a wonderful resource for travelling speed sailors if you could post a link to a google map (especially one with a GPS overlay) with each location.

izaak
TAS, 1973 posts
13 Jul 2014 3:10PM
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Johnny has set up and we are gradually filling in and building up our spot guide here in Tassie... So far very successful and useful for all!

www.thespotguide.com.au/TAS/index.html

needsalt
NSW, 377 posts
13 Jul 2014 6:48PM
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izaak said..
Johnny has set up and we are gradually filling in and building up our spot guide here in Tassie... So far very successful and useful for all!

www.thespotguide.com.au/TAS/index.html


THAT is freaking SENSATIONAL!!!

At a glance, any chance you could maybe please expand the wind field with some seasonal info to help non-Tasmanians plan trips to all your awesome spots? Eg. Port Sorell Sandbar, winds NNW (most common in X season/month) to SW (all year with approaching fronts) etc? In my ignorance, I would have no idea what time of year to expect certain wind down there.

What a fantastic and generous tool. Huge thanks and congrats to all involved

Windxtasy
WA, 4014 posts
13 Jul 2014 6:44PM
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izaak said..
Johnny has set up and we are gradually filling in and building up our spot guide here in Tassie... So far very successful and useful for all!

www.thespotguide.com.au/TAS/index.html


Brilliant!
Now we need this for the other states.

conan
NSW, 173 posts
13 Jul 2014 9:30PM
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NOT ENOUGH

ka43
NSW, 3074 posts
13 Jul 2014 9:57PM
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Pffftttt, There is only one true speed spot in Oz.................................. Lake Dangerous!!!!

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
13 Jul 2014 10:26PM
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So makes a spot a speedsurfing spot. flatwater, windy or maybe speed (40knots 5x10).
speed would be a good indicator for what's a good speed spot



I have the same question. What defines a speed spot?

There are a lot of places that under very rare and unusual conditions might be sensational 40 knots + places. But few have been sailed in those conditions.

Also,if you have a place where you might crack 40 knots in a big Sou'wester, but there is another spot nearby where you will most likely crack 45+ knots, which one would you go to? The other spot/spots don't have the results. So are they real speed spots?

Is a 'speed spot' just a place for top speed? What about a place for a good one hour, Alpha or nautical mile?

gavnwend
WA, 1366 posts
13 Jul 2014 8:35PM
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I think we all should past the hat around & build a mega speed canal in every state.p.s that will probably never happen .

stroppo
WA, 728 posts
13 Jul 2014 8:41PM
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I was thinking just spots were you can just send it in general any other gtc categories is a bonus the more spots the better i spose not every body is into hardcore speed the WA spots i have mentioned have nearly all had 40kts done on them but any thing over 30kts is going well hey!

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
14 Jul 2014 10:17AM
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Victoria:
Sandy Point-Shallow Inlet:
(All of these have produced over 40 knots):
- Main run speed bank
- Easterly Bank
- Sandy 'B' near the entrance
- Yanakie channel (best NM spot?)
- Boat Hole
- Car Park NW bank
- Long Arms

(High Tide runs good for NM and 1 Hour. Mostly flattish):
-Eastern sand flats on Westerly, Sou'westerly and Easterly
-NW sand flats, boat hole to Yanakie.

Inverloch-Andersons Inlet
(Town/Entrance area runs , names?)
Area 45

Swan Bay

Lake Coonewarre

Point Henry

Westernport Bay:
Daffys Mile, Corinella.

Mallacoota Inlet

Rye sandbars

Yet to be proven/exploited:
Metung weed flats
The Grange weed flats
Marlo Lake Entrance
[b]Port Albert and Entrance

Manns Beach Entrance
Corner Inlet channels
Westernport North end channels: Warneet-Tooradin

Others?



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Milsy
NSW, 1176 posts
14 Jul 2014 10:57AM
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NSW, spots were forty has been achieved

Narrabeen lakes,
foreshore drive,
taren pt,
canton,
peely,
lake illawarra

other places were forty is achievable

Harrington,
queens lake
botany, runway
lake macquaire, sand Islands
occas, north entrance

I would say speed strips are better for 2sec potential then weed banks, ha, both are good, just basing it on the fact you don't have to drag through thick weed on a speed strip, making it potentially faster

Harrington, and taren pt are the only real speed strips on my list, not foreshore drive which is simply protected by a wall making it a bit flat,
both the mentioned speed strips have a lot of potential, especially Harrington, its like a mini sandy pt

JohnnyHuett
TAS, 543 posts
14 Jul 2014 11:10AM
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Windxtasy said..

izaak said..
Johnny has set up and we are gradually filling in and building up our spot guide here in Tassie... So far very successful and useful for all!

www.thespotguide.com.au/TAS/index.html



Brilliant!
Now we need this for the other states.


Sidetracking from the thread topic...Once our test site worked so well, I setup the new site with in mind of putting the other states up.

Just need the info from people. I haven't actively sought out anyone or posted requests due to the lack of time. But if people want to start flicking me through info, I can build it up when I can. Just use an existing template - as much info, or screen caps of maps etc helps me understand the spot.

Its a very basic site, lots of ideas to improve it, i.e. selectable wind directions etc... one day.

Windxtasy
WA, 4014 posts
14 Jul 2014 11:03AM
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To me a speed spot is anywhere you can windsurf where you can get high wind and flat water at the same time. Some will have large expanses of flat water and be suitable for hours etc, others will be only a small patch good for 2sec.

fanatic02
NSW, 300 posts
14 Jul 2014 6:23PM
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40 has been done a few times at Harrington, very short run but super flat

gavnwend
WA, 1366 posts
14 Jul 2014 4:41PM
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back in the day late 90 ties before the dreaching & what the council did .SAFETY BAY (the pond) use to be good in a cranking south westa.l was only new to the sport but guys like robbie radis neils Rasmussen were doing long downwinders beside the weedbank lm sure they were posting times of 40 plus .

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
15 Jul 2014 10:29PM
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Add one more to NSW:

MT got a 40 at Keef's Run at Sanctuary Point. Not me - the other MT

www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2014-01-28&team=98

John340
QLD, 3116 posts
16 Jul 2014 12:55AM
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decrepit said..
And another for Queensland, you locals don't seem to sail.



Taylors Beach. Here's Mal and I having it all to ourselves.



Maybe because river mouths in far north Qld tend to have some very friendly Salties

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
19 Jul 2014 2:41AM
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shear tip said..
Add one more to NSW:

MT got a 40 at Keef's Run at Sanctuary Point. Not me - the other MT

www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2014-01-28&team=98



mike LEO has done a high 38 on lake wollumbulla in a n/east mudskipper did a 34.55 yesterday on an old fanatic and 6/7 areotech race sail in a s/e 15 to 20 knts , in the video it's probabley the choppiest water because he is heading back the the rigging area
the water is flat from where I took the video
the problem is the water levels are a hit and miss but at the moment good for 40knts with a bit more wind

byronmc
NSW, 503 posts
19 Jul 2014 10:44AM
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Harrington nsw 42 knts
Peel st nsw over 42 knts
Sand islands Lake Macquarie 39.9 knts

For me Harrington is by far the flattest and no weed a short sandy point.
Like so many have said before good speed needs a few elements to align at the same time. Wind,wind direction, tide, location flat water, the rest is up to the sailer and his equipment.
This is why it is so hard in nsw to get that perfect day where every thing lines up.
I love the idea of showing people the speed spots this might help determine holiday location.

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
19 Jul 2014 9:15AM
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John340 said..

Maybe because river mouths in far north Qld tend to have some very friendly Salties


Daintree River mouth as posted before







gregwed
QLD, 555 posts
19 Jul 2014 11:33AM
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Yeah right!!!
That's a big saltie doing 30 kts in the right hand bottom corner - they grow them big up there!!!

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
19 Jul 2014 11:36AM
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firiebob said..

John340 said..

Maybe because river mouths in far north Qld tend to have some very friendly Salties



Daintree River mouth as posted before








Haha Bob that ones all yours :-)

RAL INN
SA, 2884 posts
19 Jul 2014 1:35PM
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sailquik said..
Victoria:
Sandy Point-Shallow Inlet:
(All of these have produced over 40 knots):
- Main run speed bank
- Easterly Bank
- Sandy 'B' near the entrance
- Yanakie channel (best NM spot?)
- Boat Hole
- Car Park NW bank
- Long Arms

(High Tide runs good for NM and 1 Hour. Mostly flattish):
-Eastern sand flats on Westerly, Sou'westerly and Easterly
-NW sand flats, boat hole to Yanakie.

Inverloch-Andersons Inlet
(Town/Entrance area runs , names?)
Area 45

Swan Bay

Lake Coonewarre

Point Henry

Westernport Bay:
Daffys Mile, Corinella.

Mallacoota Inlet

Rye sandbars

Yet to be proven/exploited:
Metung weed flats
The Grange weed flats
Marlo Lake Entrance
[b]Port Albert and Entrance

Manns Beach Entrance
Corner Inlet channels
Westernport North end channels: Warneet-Tooradin

Others?



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Corner Inlet is five channels and so far I have investigated the Foster, Toora and Franklin channels and see heaps of possibilities.
at low tide most of Corner inlet drys out or comes close to it, sort of a huge version of Shallow Inlet. but save highish tide access from Foster beach all of it is only accessible by boat.

all winds directions will have a spot where at low tide there will be runs, some in the Nautical mile+ long.

I have been just using my 3.6m 15hp inflatable and towing board out the Franklin river find a spot on flats and rig up and go.
the Lee of Toora island is fun at thigh deep is an easterly as the vast expanse of flats at this depth give a slight ripple chop is 20ish kts that you skip along.

Westerlies here rock and the Franklin river entrance lets you rig and tie boat to Mangroves for shelter. lift sail above mangrove height and bang you're off.
High tide you can run down the river is glass flat water, low tide lets you run the flat water out.

easterlies or westerlies the Foster channel looks most promising for big runs. and the Toora channel in westerlies looks real good for long runs. In the Kraken (7.8m twin rig Rib) it's 20+ mins at 26kts running along bank of shallows on one heading.

I am looking for some fellow speed junkies to share the cost of using the Kraken to hunt even more spots.

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
20 Jul 2014 12:24AM
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RAL INN said..

sailquik said..
Victoria:
Sandy Point-Shallow Inlet:
(All of these have produced over 40 knots):
- Main run speed bank
- Easterly Bank
- Sandy 'B' near the entrance
- Yanakie channel (best NM spot?)
- Boat Hole
- Car Park NW bank
- Long Arms

(High Tide runs good for NM and 1 Hour. Mostly flattish):
-Eastern sand flats on Westerly, Sou'westerly and Easterly
-NW sand flats, boat hole to Yanakie.

Inverloch-Andersons Inlet
(Town/Entrance area runs , names?)
Area 45

Swan Bay

Lake Coonewarre

Point Henry

Westernport Bay:
Daffys Mile, Corinella.

Mallacoota Inlet

Rye sandbars

Yet to be proven/exploited:
Metung weed flats
The Grange weed flats
Marlo Lake Entrance
[b]Port Albert and Entrance

Manns Beach Entrance
Corner Inlet channels
Westernport North end channels: Warneet-Tooradin

Others?



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Corner Inlet is five channels and so far I have investigated the Foster, Toora and Franklin channels and see heaps of possibilities.
at low tide most of Corner inlet drys out or comes close to it, sort of a huge version of Shallow Inlet. but save highish tide access from Foster beach all of it is only accessible by boat.

all winds directions will have a spot where at low tide there will be runs, some in the Nautical mile+ long.

I have been just using my 3.6m 15hp inflatable and towing board out the Franklin river find a spot on flats and rig up and go.
the Lee of Toora island is fun at thigh deep is an easterly as the vast expanse of flats at this depth give a slight ripple chop is 20ish kts that you skip along.

Westerlies here rock and the Franklin river entrance lets you rig and tie boat to Mangroves for shelter. lift sail above mangrove height and bang you're off.
High tide you can run down the river is glass flat water, low tide lets you run the flat water out.

easterlies or westerlies the Foster channel looks most promising for big runs. and the Toora channel in westerlies looks real good for long runs. In the Kraken (7.8m twin rig Rib) it's 20+ mins at 26kts running along bank of shallows on one heading.

I am looking for some fellow speed junkies to share the cost of using the Kraken to hunt even more spots.


I have motored around Corner Inlet in the Tinnie a few times and made a real effort to check out the Port Welshpool channel a few years ago. It looks great on Google maps and I had reports from fishermen that it comes out high and dry on low tides to form a NM speed bank. Unfortunately, that does not happen when there is westerly winds and low air pressure. It only happens in Easterlies and big highs. Useless!

RAL INN
SA, 2884 posts
20 Jul 2014 10:24AM
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When you go to google maps and bring up the satellite of Corner Inlet and zoom out or in so that shallow inlet is in bottom left of picture.
you can see the five ways or channels into corner Inlet. The middle channel takes to the centre of Corner Inlet and the Franklin Channel.
It then splits into the Doughboy, Foster, and Franklin channels.
Now when you look at Shallow inlet and compare to say the Foster channel, there are some very similar sections. Also the franklin channel.
At low tides these areas dry out making them like shallow inlet when the tide is out. So think the east bank of SI in an easterly but runs like the main speed run.
The nearest usable boat ramp is Toora so a tinnie trip would be insanely long. You can launch a tinnie from Foster beach but its a lift in at very high tide only.
A boat fast enough and big enough to carry some gear needs 3/4 tide min to track straight there or it's a 45 min 25kt cruise in the channels.

We are running boat tours from Port Franklin down east coast of Wilson's Prom to Refuge cove with Kraken Tours so after about 30 trips across Corner Inlet. I am just starting to get a feel for the waters. The pro fisherman say that "western port bay has to types of boaties, those that have run aground, and those about to. corner inlet has just one type."

Port franklin has access to corner inlet at all tides save maybe the very low ones. But no boat ramp. We launch at Toora at high tide and follow a careful GPS route along shore line to Port franklin where as a commercial boat we can use the jetty to berth at.

the point is having a group and a decent boat will make Corner Inlet a great speed spot.

remo81
QLD, 678 posts
20 Jul 2014 8:30PM
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Vando, what about VP?



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