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Lake George - GPS Event 2013

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Created by WsurfingSA > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2012
Milsy
NSW, 1176 posts
22 Dec 2012 9:31AM
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ha, this sounds like such a sweet time, great conditions, great sailors everywhere, i hope everyone has a great time, achieve some sweet results, goodluck...........leo if you c this post, can you please tell me what youre thinking about this event in terms of getting there, driving? flying?, sailing?, anywhooo goodluck man, youll kill it down there, goodluck to all the nsw team going down there

KJ
VIC, 157 posts
23 Dec 2012 11:01PM
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i'm in. Got a 4.7 and a smaller fin this year JimBob, so hopefully i won't get blown off the water again this year.

The Warrnambool crew will be over as soon we get the SE sniff.

Whats the lastest on the lake level?

jimbob SA
SA, 992 posts
24 Dec 2012 9:35AM
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Ah the stig returns..........

John the level is good you can still sail along the spit, middle lake is ok but not super flat yet but then my ok to most people is flat. behind the islands is looking the goods though.
weed is still growing but not a problem getting in and out.
txt me when your crew is coming as I has limited internet at the van, will be there till the 3rd then day tripping between work,
have all Feb off.

tony wyn
VIC, 81 posts
25 Dec 2012 7:02PM
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Yep I'm in ... Just got the go ahead from the specialist ... Free to hit it again ... YAY!

TASSIEROCKS
TAS, 1651 posts
25 Dec 2012 8:59PM
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Nice work Tony good to have you back going for it

Cheers Russ

Remember to give your old gun a run some time this summer on the lake and see what it can do on a modern KA rig?

Best of luck mate

edhead
NSW, 54 posts
26 Dec 2012 10:29AM
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Is the event open to speed kiters? Any speed kiters listening in on this forum? (There's no specific thread for speed kiters unfortunately) Is it a good venue for speed kiters?

Moving to Sydney in Jan and obviously there's nowhere to speed kite around there so desperate to find some venues and events in Oz to hopefully keep upping my gps rankings.

Any info or advice greatly appreciated.

Regards

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
26 Dec 2012 11:39AM
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edhead said...

Moving to Sydney in Jan and obviously there's nowhere to speed kite around there so desperate to find some venues and events in Oz to hopefully keep upping my gps rankings.

Any info or advice greatly appreciated.

Regards



edhead most of the nsw speed sailor use lake george in the act, same name as SA but different lake
its not a bad drive down the hume hwy

Kimba
SA, 453 posts
27 Dec 2012 1:12PM
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An "Event" will be created shortly on GP3S with a blog here: lakegeorgegps.blogspot.com.au

Lake George GPS Event 2013

Event Description / Notice of Race

The Lake George GPS Event is a speedsailing event organised by Windsurfing SA that starts January 1, 2013 and ends March 31, 2013.

Lake George provided outstanding conditions for speed sailing in early 2012, and there is much anticipation about the speeds that can be achieved there this coming summer. The open time frame of the event will allow you to chase the optimum conditions to achieve the best speeds.

A current Windsurfing SA membership (or similar interstate membership) is required to compete.

Winners will be announced in each of the 6 GPSTC categories.

Max 2 second speed
5 x 10 second average
Nautical mile
500 m alpha racing (50 m)
1 hour
Total distance (within a single calender day)

Race venue
Lake George, Beachport, South Australia. Sessions can only be posted using data from middle lake and the main lake.

GPS Units and Data Analysis
Speed measurements must be made with Locosys Navi GT-31/GT-11 GPS units using Doppler mode, and posted within 10 days. To ensure uniform analysis parameters, tracks must be uploaded to http://www.ka72.com/, and the calculated speed results posted to the event on GP3S . All results must be posted by March 31, 2013, 8 pm South Australian time (GMT+10:30).

Safety
Speedsailing can be dangerous, you enter this event at your own risk.

In participating, you agree that safety of yourself and others on the lake is of paramount importance, and that you will always render assistance to anyone needing help.

Website
Additional information about the event, rigging areas and staying at Beachport will be available on the event blog - lakegeorgegps.blogspot.com.au

Kimba
SA, 453 posts
28 Dec 2012 10:39AM
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Here is the event on GP3S:

www.gps-speedsurfing.com/default.aspx?mnu=event&val=276

red
VIC, 738 posts
28 Dec 2012 11:30AM
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Thanks for the event info Tim,

quick question...

Im not a current paid up member of my states windsurfing association and Im definitely coming over to sail. Windsurfing VIC renews their membership in July so Im struggling to see the value in joining and only getting the benefit of 6 months membership. I competed at lake George at an Onboard run event in 2006 and paid for a SA membership at a reduced price? or maybe just to cover me for event?

So I guess the point is ... can something be organised by windsurfing SA or other states to cover the event? There's is no way that I will will any of the prizes for win a division so why should I enter? Have you considered some random prizes so that hacks like myself will be encouraged to participate?

Just some food for thought...

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
28 Dec 2012 12:33PM
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If there is an 'event' category in GPSSS and we use auto upload from GPS-Results or GPSAR-pro, why would we need to upload tracks to KA-72 as well?

Also, we do not need state association membership to post on GPSSS or GPSTC. Why would we need it for this?

WsurfingSA
SA, 391 posts
28 Dec 2012 3:37PM
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Windsurfing SA is the organising body for this event, because as a sporting association, it covers itself with public liability insurance.

GPS Speed Sailing is dangerous (as is wave and slalom sailing) - it is wise for the organising body to be structured this way.

The benefit of this is that with everyone at an event covered there is no risk that gaps can suddenly appear in the cover if a claim is made.

This insurance cover for an individual comes with their state association membership.

It is also a good thing to be supporting your state windsurfing association.

Refer: www.windsurfing.org/insurance.htm

So yes we do require each entrant to be a current financial member of Windsurfing SA, or their own state's windsurfing association.

No discounted half-year memberships...sorry Red.

Here's a list of current AWA 2012/13 members:
www.windsurfing.org/files/info/AWA_Members.pdf

WsurfingSA
SA, 391 posts
28 Dec 2012 3:41PM
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With the 'event' category on GP3S, it will be possible to upload your data by means other than KA72 if you so desire.

GP3S will keep an accurate account of the sessions posted, and the world records as they fall!

nazsail
VIC, 317 posts
28 Dec 2012 4:54PM
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Hi,
In regards to State membership requirments, does being a paid up member of Inverloch Windsurf Club count as we are aligned with Yatching Victoria? We have personal accident insurance through them.
Cheers, Pete

WsurfingSA
SA, 391 posts
28 Dec 2012 7:13PM
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Pete, you will need to demonstrate that Inverloch is part of Windsurfing Vic. Cheers.

Kimba
SA, 453 posts
28 Dec 2012 11:31PM
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sailquik said...
If there is an 'event' category in GPSSS and we use auto upload from GPS-Results or GPSAR-pro, why would we need to upload tracks to KA-72 as well?


Hi Andrew, I checked out some of the other events on GP3S and Ka72 was used for a US event, I thought it would eliminate the differences in the results of different software. You are far more qualified to comment on the subject than me and since WSSA has also given the ok I will update the speel on the Event site to allow auto uploads. Ironically, I was able to auto-upload tonight for the first time in a year or so, I hadn't updated the GP3S password in the upload popup

jamesf
NSW, 992 posts
29 Dec 2012 8:30PM
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WsurfingSA said...

Windsurfing SA is the organising body for this event, because as a sporting association, it covers itself with public liability insurance.

GPS Speed Sailing is dangerous (as is wave and slalom sailing) - it is wise for the organising body to be structured this way.

The benefit of this is that with everyone at an event covered there is no risk that gaps can suddenly appear in the cover if a claim is made.

This insurance cover for an individual comes with their state association membership.

It is also a good thing to be supporting your state windsurfing association.

Refer: www.windsurfing.org/insurance.htm

So yes we do require each entrant to be a current financial member of Windsurfing SA, or their own state's windsurfing association.

No discounted half-year memberships...sorry Red.

Here's a list of current AWA 2012/13 members:
www.windsurfing.org/files/info/AWA_Members.pdf


Sounds like a great event. Maybe one day I'll get there!

For nsw sailors thinking about going over, the affiliated clubs that you could join are Marmong, Stormriders, Illawarra, St George or Dobroyd. Pm me if you need more contact details.

jimbob SA
SA, 992 posts
30 Dec 2012 10:54AM
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Great work Kimba, thanks for all the effort.
just one thing make sure our sponsor gets a good mention.

the weed beds are starting to look really good.

Aus06
SA, 235 posts
30 Dec 2012 11:53AM
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That'd be 'Sponsors'.

I'm about to announce an additional sponsor that has shown keen interest in getting behind this event.

Stay tuned...

Aus06
SA, 235 posts
30 Dec 2012 12:00PM
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I just pinched this photo from Kimba's collection (thanks Tim ) to show / remind people how totally amazing the conditions at Lake George are in late summer.

This photo shows SA Speed Demons team captain Kimba laying into a gybe at around 40 knots (I assume) - check out how flat that water is!!!!!!!

Great stuff.



Bogan speed team
SA, 407 posts
30 Dec 2012 1:27PM
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I can vouch for the weed and flat water - just a shame the wind didn't blow.

hardie
WA, 4082 posts
30 Dec 2012 6:07PM
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The GTC via Hydrodynamix Booms would like to add a windsurf boom to the prize pool for the event. Thanx Paul and Annie from HYdrodynamix Booms!!

Kimba
SA, 453 posts
30 Dec 2012 9:35PM
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jimbob SA said...
Great work Kimba, thanks for all the effort.
just one thing make sure our sponsor gets a good mention.

the weed beds are starting to look really good.


I am going to add a sponsor page to the blog when all the prizes etc. are finalised. GP3S ask for a fee on their site if sponsors are promoted and I am looking into the costs involved there.

Aus06 said...
Kimba laying into a gybe at around 40 knots (I assume)

You make me laugh Chris!

jimbob SA
SA, 992 posts
30 Dec 2012 10:19PM
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Thanks again Kimba, I had a beer with Chris at the pub today and he showed me a huge pile of prizes he has from car fridge to surfboard and more, if needed I can take photos of all and send to you.
sailed today and weed is good the guys without weedys where stuffed today.

Aus06
SA, 235 posts
31 Dec 2012 10:12AM
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Thanks to all our event sponsors so far:

- Beachport Hotel
- GTC / Hydrodynamics Booms
- Strathalbyn Windsurfing / Black Projects Fins

This support is greatly appreciated, and will help to make a great event even better!!

legless
SA, 852 posts
3 Jan 2013 10:51AM
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I have arranged for Black Project Fins to offer a couple of fins for prizes for the event:

A Type RS 28 for the winner of the Max 2 second speed

A WEED Speed 28 for the winner of the 500 m alpha racing (50 m)

I will post the fin out to the winner of each catagory it they are unable to collect them from the Strath Windsurfing Shop.

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
3 Jan 2013 5:33PM
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Kimba said...
sailquik said...
If there is an 'event' category in GPSSS and we use auto upload from GPS-Results or GPSAR-pro, why would we need to upload tracks to KA-72 as well?


Hi Andrew, I checked out some of the other events on GP3S and Ka72 was used for a US event, I thought it would eliminate the differences in the results of different software. You are far more qualified to comment on the subject than me and since WSSA has also given the ok I will update the speel on the Event site to allow auto uploads. Ironically, I was able to auto-upload tonight for the first time in a year or so, I hadn't updated the GP3S password in the upload popup



The differences between different software analysis programs are virtually non-existent. I sometimes see very minor differences but they are usually related to settings. With the same settings, the different programs invariably give the same results.

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
6 Jan 2013 10:10AM
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Plenty of sailors at LG this weekend. Figures will not be outstanding though. The weed is still too short and sparse so the water is not as flat as when the good speeds were done last year. Might get some nice speed runs behind the spit though.

It looks like the lake may not be ideal until mid February or even later.

Aus06
SA, 235 posts
6 Jan 2013 1:21PM
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Thanks for the update Daffy. Still wish I was there though!

I'm aiming to make the most of Feb and March.

WsurfingSA
SA, 391 posts
6 Jan 2013 10:09PM
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An important bit of info for anyone speed sailing at Lake George is the contact details for the nearest first aid:

Robe Medical Centre
1 Smilie Street
Robe
08 8768 2012

Approx 20-30 minute drive from the lake (depending on how much pain you are in).

They have an after hours service, so ring when you start driving to give them notice. Hopefully this will not be required by anyone...

Sail safe!



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