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Created by sailquik > 9 months ago, 5 Oct 2016
Valdaron
6 posts
19 May 2017 4:09AM
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How can enable an option in my watch to sygnalise beating a record in particular session by voice

decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
19 May 2017 8:18PM
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Valdaron said..
How can enable an option in my watch to sygnalise beating a record in particular session by voice


The GW60 doesn't have voice capability, but it does have a buzzer, the trouble is my old ears don't hear the buzzer on the water, but if you have young ears you may hear it.
But I've no idea if the buzzer sounds each time you get a faster run.

Boombuster
QLD, 571 posts
27 May 2017 8:32AM
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decrepit said..
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The Gw60 has a power saving mode, if it's been asleep for 10days it turns right off and will no longer respond to the mode/back button. It has to be connected to power to wake it up again.
I guess some of you had already worked this out, but it caught me out the other day. Trouble with having weekly wind until autumn arrives


Mike I went for my first sail in over two weeks and also my watch wouldn't turn on I was thinking it had gone flat but when I got home and plugged it into the clip charger it came alive and had full bars of charge. Caught me out also first time due to lack of wind also, so I have ordered a spare clip cable I will keep it in the van if it happens again to me or anyone I am sailing with this is bound to happen when there is no wind for weeks on end.

decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
27 May 2017 1:47PM
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>>so I have ordered a spare clip cable I will keep it in the van if it happens again to me or anyone I am sailing with this is bound to happen when there is no wind for weeks on end.


Great thinking Glyn, well worth doing!

boardsurfr
WA, 2312 posts
28 May 2017 1:05AM
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If you're using the GW-60 on your wrists and you 2 second speeds are more than a couple of knots faster than your 5x10, make sure do have a closer look at your traces - especially if you spent any amount of time swimming. There have been a couple of cases where analysis with ka72.com or GPS Action Replay Pro had given artificially high 2 second speeds due to spikes. This appears to be more common with the watch since it's more likely to be submerged after crashes. It may be quite common in "wet" session - I found one when specifically looking for it after examining just 15 files. Details are at boardsurfr.blogspot.com/2017/05/overstating-speed-by-4-knots.html and boardsurfr.blogspot.com/2017/05/60-knots-new-speedrecord.html

Valdaron
6 posts
26 Jun 2017 1:45AM
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Can you read gps-gps from GW-60 on android?

decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
26 Jun 2017 6:13PM
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the GW60 can be used as a standard USB interface, if you can read thumb drives, you should be able to download your gps data. But I don't know if anybody has done it.

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
26 Jun 2017 8:30PM
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As decrepit says, you should be able to download the files in the mode: "UMS: USB Mass Storage for non-Windows platform user."

After you have downloaded them, you can probably open and analyse them in the GPS-Results version built into the Android App. GPS-Logit.

Te Hau
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26 Jun 2017 6:46PM
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If you're using the GW-60 on your wrists and you 2 second speeds are more than a couple of knots faster than your 5x10, make sure do have a closer look at your traces - especially if you spent any amount of time swimming. There have been a couple of cases where analysis with ka72.com or GPS Action Replay Pro had given artificially high 2 second speeds due to spikes. This appears to be more common with the watch since it's more likely to be submerged after crashes. It may be quite common in "wet" session - I found one when specifically looking for it after examining just 15 files. Details are at boardsurfr.blogspot.com/2017/05/overstating-speed-by-4-knots.html and boardsurfr.blogspot.com/2017/05/60-knots-new-speedrecord.html


Same problem with alphas with GW60.
Have seen some good alphas but they are made up of spikes mid turn which give great readings.
Spikes are not big enough to be deleted by software but corrupt the alpha result.
I guess it's due to the wrist moving so much during gybes.

decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
26 Jun 2017 8:28PM
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Te Hau said..
Same problem with alphas with GW60.
Have seen some good alphas but they are made up of spikes mid turn which give great readings.
Spikes are not big enough to be deleted by software but corrupt the alpha result.
I guess it's due to the wrist moving so much during gybes.


That was always a worry with a watch, on the wrist. But I've just tried an extension band so I can wear it higher up. With it just above my elbow, the alpha results were pristine. BUT I also found that just above the elbow is not a good spot, as the "gps" button gets pushed when you bend your arm.
And operating buttons allows the watch to breath, underwater that's not good!!!!!
High on the forearm could be a good idea, I'm going to try that next.

boardsurfr
WA, 2312 posts
26 Jun 2017 9:06PM
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Te Hau said..

Have seen some good alphas but they are made up of spikes mid turn which give great readings.
Spikes are not big enough to be deleted by software but corrupt the alpha result.
I guess it's due to the wrist moving so much during gybes.


Could you post a screen shot of an example, or where to find a track with the problem on ka72.com?

John340
QLD, 3116 posts
28 Jun 2017 10:38AM
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Te Hau said..
Same problem with alphas with GW60.
Have seen some good alphas but they are made up of spikes mid turn which give great readings.
Spikes are not big enough to be deleted by software but corrupt the alpha result.
I guess it's due to the wrist moving so much during gybes.



That was always a worry with a watch, on the wrist. But I've just tried an extension band so I can wear it higher up. With it just above my elbow, the alpha results were pristine. BUT I also found that just above the elbow is not a good spot, as the "gps" button gets pushed when you bend your arm.
And operating buttons allows the watch to breath, underwater that's not good!!!!!
High on the forearm could be a good idea, I'm going to try that next.


Mike,
I wear mine on my upper forearm. I reverse the screen and have the GPS facing upwards. The GPS has good satellite vision in both underhand and overhand positions. I get good results compared to my GW52. I can also see the watch screen when sailing. I adjust the position of the watch position in relation to my upper arm to stop inadvertent operation of the buttons.

John340
QLD, 3116 posts
28 Jun 2017 3:30PM
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Photo of me wearing the watch on my upper forearm. I've flipped the screen on the watc, so that the GPS chip is above the screen, so that it always points towards the sky, irrespective of an overhand or underhand grip.

decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
28 Jun 2017 6:15PM
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Yes, John I think you've hit on the best scenario. That's also where Daffy says he will wear his, as back in the old days his garmin gave good results there.

Mark at Surfsail Australia says my locosys strap extender will be in early July. I may have another try with the bay one using a lanyard.

Also Roger says, over tightening the strap can adversely affect the waterproofing.

Te Hau
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29 Jun 2017 7:13PM
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Te Hau said..


Have seen some good alphas but they are made up of spikes mid turn which give great readings.
Spikes are not big enough to be deleted by software but corrupt the alpha result.
I guess it's due to the wrist moving so much during gybes.



Could you post a screen shot of an example, or where to find a track with the problem on ka72.com?


PM'd you

decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
30 Jun 2017 7:01PM
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Today tried John's way of wearing the watch on my forearm. I'm now sure this is the best option. The watch is easier to see while sailing, the buttons aren't inadvertently activated and the accuracy is really good.
Here's the comparison with the GW52 on my head.
GPSResults V6.147
GW52 ---------------------------------- Watch
2s:
time m [knots] time m [knots]
11:57:41 34.4 33.481+/-0.296 - 11:57:42 34.4 33.465+/-0.456 underhand
12:18:25 34.3 33.372+/-0.161 - 12:18:25 34.3 33.372+/-0.189 underhand
12:03:27 34.0 32.999+/-0.278 - 12:03:28 34.0 33.020+/-0.242 underhand
11:48:17 33.2 32.272+/-0.277 - 11:48:17 33.2 32.254+/-0.383 underhand
12:14:11 33.0 32.110+/-0.211 - 12:14:11 33.1 32.145+/-0.184 underhand
12:10:34 32.4 31.465+/-0.219 - 12:10:34 32.4 31.523+/-0.631 underhand
12:01:05 31.6 30.722+/-0.191 - 11:49:55 31.4 30.557+/-0.516 over hand
11:49:55 31.4 30.559+/-0.402 - 12:01:05 31.4 30.542+/-0.507 over hand
11:35:30 31.3 30.429+/-0.275 - 12:22:08 31.2 30.303+/-0.330 underhand
12:22:08 31.2 30.355+/-0.216 - 11:35:30 31.2 30.291+/-0.255 underhand

10s:
time m [knots]
11:57:43 166.6 32.389+/-0.159 - 11:57:44 166.6 32.376+/-0.221
12:18:27 164.3 31.936+/-0.079 - 12:18:27 164.2 31.916+/-0.122
12:03:31 162.7 31.619+/-0.155 - 12:03:31 162.8 31.652+/-0.177
12:14:16 157.7 30.657+/-0.109 - 12:14:17 157.4 30.592+/-0.148
11:48:20 157.2 30.559+/-0.139 - 11:48:20 157.2 30.554+/-0.159
12:10:37 156.8 30.483+/-0.131 - 12:10:37 156.4 30.397+/-0.268
13:09:56 152.7 29.692+/-0.155 - 13:09:56 152.9 29.723+/-0.150
12:22:13 152.2 29.586+/-0.113 - 12:22:13 152.1 29.563+/-0.167
11:35:32 151.3 29.415+/-0.111 - 11:35:32 151.2 29.384+/-0.112
13:14:52 150.9 29.325+/-0.169 - 13:14:52 150.9 29.341+/-0.159

average[5]: 31.432knots ---------- average[5]: 31.418knots


alpha 500/50m:
time m [knots]
13:22:37 498.1 20.778+/-0.069 - 13:22:37 499.6 20.838+/-0.083
13:29:08 499.4 17.585+/-0.055 - 13:29:08 498.0 17.665+/-0.066
13:25:41 499.4 16.970+/-0.052 - 13:21:20 499.3 16.968+/-0.072
13:21:21 498.7 16.887+/-0.060 - 13:25:41 499.3 16.968+/-0.062
14:14:58 428.5 15.714+/-0.050 - 14:14:58 427.5 15.737+/-0.067
11:36:48 498.7 14.733+/-0.040 - 13:30:46 498.9 15.200+/-0.069
00000000000000000000000000 -- 13:27:18 499.9 14.903+/-0.069
00000000000000000000000000 -- 11:36:48 499.7 14.806+/-0.050
000000000000000000000000000 - 13:11:44 499.2 13.148+/-0.049
000000000000000000000000000 - 11:49:41 426.5 12.996+/-0.059

The watch has extra alphas because min speed is set to 0kts whereas the GW52 is about 3kts

Some of the watch 2s accuracy numbers aren't as good as the GW52, I'll check if there is an under hand, overhand pattern to this. Hmm, well that's interesting only two overhand grips and they are both +/- 0.5 the highest of the ten.

Today's alpha tells the story.


entry leg is overhand, exit leg underhand. Maybe I need to turn the watch upwards a tad.

choco
SA, 4032 posts
14 Jul 2017 3:03PM
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decrepit said..
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The Gw60 has a power saving mode, if it's been asleep for 10days it turns right off and will no longer respond to the mode/back button. It has to be connected to power to wake it up again.
I guess some of you had already worked this out, but it caught me out the other day. Trouble with having weekly wind until autumn arrives



Mike I went for my first sail in over two weeks and also my watch wouldn't turn on I was thinking it had gone flat but when I got home and plugged it into the clip charger it came alive and had full bars of charge. Caught me out also first time due to lack of wind also, so I have ordered a spare clip cable I will keep it in the van if it happens again to me or anyone I am sailing with this is bound to happen when there is no wind for weeks on end.


Mine stays on all the time been sitting in the office for a month before I used it just had to top up the battery

John340
QLD, 3116 posts
14 Jul 2017 3:55PM
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choco said..

Boombuster said..


decrepit said..
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The Gw60 has a power saving mode, if it's been asleep for 10days it turns right off and will no longer respond to the mode/back button. It has to be connected to power to wake it up again.
I guess some of you had already worked this out, but it caught me out the other day. Trouble with having weekly wind until autumn arrives




Mike I went for my first sail in over two weeks and also my watch wouldn't turn on I was thinking it had gone flat but when I got home and plugged it into the clip charger it came alive and had full bars of charge. Caught me out also first time due to lack of wind also, so I have ordered a spare clip cable I will keep it in the van if it happens again to me or anyone I am sailing with this is bound to happen when there is no wind for weeks on end.



Mine stays on all the time been sitting in the office for a month before I used it just had to top up the battery


Your both right.
-When the Auto Sleep is "Off", the watch stay on all the time.
-When the Auto Sleep is "On", then the watch goes in sleep mode after a period of time and then after 10 days is turned off completely and can only be turned on by reconnecting to power.

THIJS
2 posts
3 Aug 2017 11:08AM
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Hey guys! There is a new activity of LOCOSYSS

LOCOSYS club is holding a Windsurf Video Contest. Windsurfers will are welcome to submit video of their "best" waves surfed during the 4-week contest period (Jul 31-Aug 27).It's welcome to invite all the windsurfing's friends and family to join our fan page


Know the more info please visit our FACEBOOK
And help us to press "like" of our FACEBOOK
www.facebook.com/LOCOSYS.Club/?fref=ts

THIJS
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14 Aug 2017 5:05PM
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Hey guys!
I revised some description of the campaign it may let you guys know it more clearly
Can't wait to join the event.
*There is a new campaign of LOCOSYS

LOCOSYS club is holding a Video Contest. Windsurfers or water sport related will are welcome to submit your speed sailing video during the 4-week contest period (Jul 31-Aug 27).It's welcome to invite all your friends and family to join our fan page


Know the more info please visit our FACEBOOK
And help us to press "like" of our FACEBOOK
www.facebook.com/LOCOSYS.Club/?fref=ts

Copy form LOCOSYS


decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
14 Aug 2017 5:16PM
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LOCOSYS club is holding a Video Contest. Windsurfers or water sport related will are welcome to submit your speed sailing video during the 4-week contest period (Jul 31-Aug 27).It's welcome to invite all your friends and family to join our fan page



Know the more info please visit our FACEBOOK
And help us to press "like" of our FACEBOOK
www.facebook.com/LOCOSYS.Club/?fref=ts

Copy form LOCOSYS





OK guys we've seen lots of great flat water sailing on these pages, locosys would love you to share them on their facebook page

silvec01
WA, 639 posts
14 Aug 2017 10:40PM
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where do i buy one

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
15 Aug 2017 6:54AM
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www.ka72.com/

decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
15 Aug 2017 2:48PM
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In WA SurfSailAus.
www.surfsailaustralia.com.au/shop

waricle
WA, 732 posts
4 Sep 2017 8:08AM
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I'm having trouble getting the app to work on a window vista machine. It give a com pot error message whe I try to link the watch.. Help...please

decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
4 Sep 2017 1:25PM
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waricle said..
I'm having trouble getting the app to work on a window vista machine. It give a com pot error message whe I try to link the watch.. Help...please


This is normally due to a bad watch connection. Try cleaning the tabs with a clean dry cloth.

But also make sure the watch is in "com" mode, but it should be there by default unless you've changed it for Mac connection.

I've bought a "DeoxIT" contact cleaning kit from Jaycar, only used it once last time I had a bad connection, and it did the job.
I was looking for a small rubber contact cleaner but they didn't have them. I think you need to be very careful about using chemicals on the watch.

waricle
WA, 732 posts
4 Sep 2017 3:20PM
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Thanks decrepit

Dag
QLD, 720 posts
8 Sep 2017 11:16AM
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Mate, I had the same problem and wasted about four hour's of my life that I won't get back.
It was a com port error, which was a problem with finding the right driver.
One that I installed was the problem.
I uninstalled it and it worked.
I have also found that switching USB port's made a difference once. Have no idea why.
I've just wiped my computer clean and about to do it all over again.

Dag
QLD, 720 posts
9 Sep 2017 8:05AM
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Just did it all again. You have to make sure you've installed the driver that's in the folder,
the proper updater, and remember that after you've updated the firmware - you have to go back again and change the connection setting to COM. It changes itself back to UMS. I had no problem with the driver after installing the one supplied, but as I said above - previously I had to uninstall a Driver that was causing the Com port error.
Hope you have a comfy seat. Good luck.
I just did Jeff's again. Give me your's next time you're up, if you don't have any luck.

decrepit
WA, 12093 posts
10 Sep 2017 5:00PM
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Dag said..
>>ou have to go back again and change the connection setting to COM. It changes itself back to UMS.>>>


That's very strange I've never seen that, the default is COM not UMS.
Unless you're loading a CFG file that is set to UMS?



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