Dont get what? ... restating something technical, in a domain-specific analogy is perfectly ok.
Hi Barney,
Are those quotes from the papers you reference at the bottom?
I am also not quite sure of the context of your post. What is it you think windsurfers 'don't get'.
I would say that is a long time since I have felt limited in speed by 'instability'. Spinouts at top speeds are extremely rare for me on 'fast water' (Flat enough to not have issues with spinout - say following chop less than 15-20cm high)
Rockets are not that hard. I built hundreds in my youth, and not many blew up. Of course, some didnt get off the ground either.
But plenty did!
It helped that may dad had a shed full of lots of interesting Nitrate fertilisers (that don't seem to be widely available anymore - strange that....)
I only managed to clear the power lines a couple of times. I think the gunpowder was falling out of the rocket before it ignited. I wasn't game to ram it too hard.
Thanks for clearing that up Barney.
For what it's worth, I feel that I am limited by my ability to produce power by leverage: If I wear weight I usually go faster. The taller and heavier guys go faster again.
I may be limited by the L/D of the sail, but when it is blowing 40+ knots, I have to keep reducing sail size, and sail a broader course, to be able to simply hold the power I have in the sail. The is a limit to this though. I found at Luderitz, on the very broad course, in the strongest winds, reducing sail size only left me with less power. On a slightly less broad course, it may have been a different matter.
Even, or especially, in 25 to 30 knots, the larger guys go faster than me most of the time.
I am not so sure about the fin being a L/D or control limit. At my tops speeds in strong winds I don't feel there is much pressure on the fin at the angles we run, and i dont feel in any danger of overpowering it as long as it does not ventilate over large chop. And I tend to run much smaller fins than most sailors, even those of similar size to me. Sheeting in more does not seem like a good option, as there is an optimum angle before the sail stalls. Usually. I am trying to stay as sheeted out as possible for what feels to be the best L/D. on a broad run in strong winds. In lighter winds, below 30 knots, I have found I need to run a tighter course and have more pressure on the fin to get best speeds. This is the wind strength area where it feels like better L/D from both the sail and fin would definitly help.
My feeling is that sail twist helps to keep the sail stable and the CofE lower were I have more leverage over the power, and can direct it the most effecient vector. Likewise, lower aspect sails seem to do the same, for a net gain, even if they may be theoretically lower L/D.
BTW, the URL www.arys.org returns a page with 'Welcome. This site is under construction. Please come back soon"
Theres a lot of science to windsurfing, both equipment and the way we use it.
But i think its more of a question of brain wiring, or lack thereof that permits the better of us to reach the highest speeds.
Nice idea, but how do I ensure my head is exactly lined up with the direction of travel? Normally, I don't think it is, and it may be quite a neck twist to get there.
Yep I don't get it!! I just rig up sail and have a great time why clog your mine with vortexes,angle of attack,apparent wind,foil sections..............may as well stay home.
Ask any of the surfers on this video from Denmark about how their day was on the water, - they will all reply "It was bloody fantastic!!"...