A stubbie is still designed for early planing with upwind ability in mind. Turns sharp.
Similar to Slate concept. More area underfoot.
For pure high wind with control, the old rounded pin with lots of V, thin rails, and a bit of weight is hard to beat....but boringly old.
Years ago I sailed in comparable conditions with 65 kg and I've always chosen Boards around 70-72ltr. When you're not chasing storms you can go up to 75ltr but not 80+. I sailed a 72 Goya Custom Quad several times at 40kts+ on a 3.0 and that worked fine for me. Control is much more important over speed at high winds and the heavier guys beat you anyway when they are full powered. I personally wouldn't chose a Stubby because of the wide tail.
here you go. they are all stubby's. if you compare the spec the wave slate is narrower and shorter than the ultimate wave which is wider and longer although the images don't suggest that.
here are the 2 boards discussed by the op. i scaled them in autocad based on fanatic spec, traced them and overlaid them.
tri wave in magenta,
stubby TE in cyan.
where is the extra tail width being talked about?
and to keep even.
JP ultimate wave Magenta
JP Wave Slate Cyan.
where is the extra tail width being talked about?
I'm talking about the area starting between the straps running to the back of the board. Normally I would have talked about one foot off or two feet off but applying this to a conventional to stubby shape comparison doesn't make sense. Look at the back strap area. In your comparison it is 1cm wider on each side. This in combination with the rocker creates the difference.
Are the footstraps and mast track on stubbies further back on the board because they have more volume/width at the back? If so, line the outlines up with the tails of the boards aligned. The extra tail width should then be apparent.
I know, wave sailing on NorCal, I'd pick the Ult Wave .
For onshore wind, the others get a little nod, but FSW is the choice.
Yeah, remember 4 years ago, when Stubbie came out?
Kevin, at 190 lbs., was ecstatic over it. Like 86 liters for his weight with max of 4.8 sail size. Max as in the BIGGEST sail he would ever use.
Me, at 160 lbs., would be looking at 70 liter stubbie.
Nothing I'd want to slog home with. Certainly not at my age and Berkeley 90% of days.
Yes, stubbies are phased out.
And 4 year's worth of '15 to '00 stubbies still exist on the used market.
To lump a '21 board with those old stubbie/slates is just plain ignorant at best.
Stubbie concept is just moderated towards higher wind control without fully embracing the old concepts.
Gestalt, you DO realize that we're talking about general 2015 to 2020 boards....not just the newest......don't you?
Not everyone only buys the newest boards....which are narrowed down versions of 2015 to 2020.