Finally got to try these on the course. Not only are they super easy to mount on the boom (no more fiddling with velcro), they tighten under load so you never have to readjust the attachments once mounted on the boom. They're super easy to adjust on the fly, and strike the perfect balance between stability and movement for easy hooking in/out. Great and innovative product, highly recommend.
See: lisawindsurfing.com/#hardnesslines
and in this clip, used by some fast guys www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Foiling/Amazing-foil-FPV-footage?page=1
I was thinking about getting some of these but theres a few different ones on the webite. Which ones did you choose?
www.chinook-leucate.com/Recherche.aspx?motsclefs=Lisa&id_t_article_entete=113184&pagecourante=1&NbParPage=26 CL respond to emails & post to Australia. The Lisa boom wrap is also an excellent product. It doesn't wrinkle like the fishing rod shrink tubing.
Hello there !!
Nico's here, head of LISA Windsurfing. Great to see some feedback about my products on the other side of planet . So time to register on Seabreeze ahah.
About the different versions of the lines, here are some details:
#Hardnessline WING : dedicated model for wingfoiling, directly derivated from windsurf lines but lighter and shorter. 100grams/unit
#Hardnesslines MONO : the original model, monoline. Very simple and effective, it is less tolerant to approxiative settings
#Hardnesslines 2.0 slalom: 2024 evolution of the LISA lines. 4.2mm Dyneema rope, 370grams/pair with stainless steel cleat, 280grams/pair with nylon cleat
#Hardnesslines 2.0 IQ: based on the slalom version but with 6mm Dyneema rope for an easier grab (as during up and down races you can trim a lot your lines, while in slalom racing you trim it before the start and then you are full speed with no possible trim) and a modified design around the boom to get slimmer parts and allow the riders to fully release the outhaul in downwind reach, even to have the sail smashing into the boom
LISA products are indeed available in many European surfshops (if you know AU shops interested let me know ahah) or directly on the LISA webstore.
Also I will be at the Defi Wind of course, so if people are thinking about ordering LISA products maybe there will be somes people going back to Australia or the US after the event who could bring back these in their bag. Good way to avoid shipping costs and customs fees
Let me know if you have any question ;)
Cheers,
Nico
Hi all!
Boom grips are back in stock. Also you now have the choice in the color for your lines as you can customize the plastic parts colors and the tube color . For the fashion victims who want their lines matching their all new sails .
Pozo PWA event is coming, let's pray for good wind and races there!!
Nico
Salut est ce que les boute de harnais peuvent ?tre mis sur les wishbone iq foil ou sur les wishbone ou le tube est triangulaire. Merci
Salut est ce que les boute de harnais peuvent ?tre mis sur un whisbone iq foil ou de type triangulaire .
merci
Hi guys!!
Good news for the ones interested in the LISA gear, you will now have a local dealer in Australia with SURF SAIL AUSTRALIA ;), the shop is about to have harnesslines, pulleys and boom grip delivered.
Cheers,
Nico
Stainless steel must be close to H-bomb proof . Very durable but a little bit heavy.
The plastic performs really great while being 7 times lighter than the SS, and if the plastic cleat were to break first, it is easy to change (2 screws).
Nico
Maybe me, but I don't see groundbreaking things from Lisa's. Harness lines with somewhat protruding pieces (cleats) and asymmetry may not be something I would use in waves/freestyle. Boom grip... go to amazon and look for fishing pole shrink wrap and get similar for 6 times cheaper. Twist lock pulley looks interesting but I'm the wrong person to judge as I don't race.
Hi Leto,
You not seing your interest in LISA products is somehow normal considering that I mostly develop for racing and not for wave or freestyle.
About my lines, these are racing adjustable lines. So there is a cleat indeed... which bring asymetry... But luckyly asymetry is perfect for windsurfing as a sail is asymetric . Innovation here is the range of adjustment and the concept of getting rid of all fabric/stichches to improve stiffness/weight/durability. For racing.
About the boom grip... I oftenly read this comparison with the fishing pole grip, but why comparing whrn they are not the same... Good if you are happy with the fishing stuff. But the LISA gives more grip, more comfort and does not slip on the boom. And talking about price, what can I tell you, I've tried to propose something easy/performing/cheap... More quality, a nice print on it, 2.4 to 4 meters of material per kit, the glue and a little coin for me to be able to live of my work. And I believe that it's cheaper than many foam EVA grips while being so much better... I've quickly checked the fishing stuff prices on AMZ, for 40mm skrink grip prices are 15? for 1m. So you need 4 of these to compare to a 200 LISA grip kit, means 60? of AMZ fishing grip. This is far from 6 times cheaper...
In the end I don't develop for wave and freestyle because most of the time riders don't care about innovation or are happy for low quality... Plastic fins, aluminium booms etc... Not a critic, but this kind of feedback is what stops me, when there are good things to propose.
Cheers,
Nico
Hi Nico. I think that forums are great because people can discuss things and state their opinions. Reading these opinions no matter how opinionated and rough they are what makes forum format so valuable for product reviews and hopefully for developers. If wave and freestyle guys, as you said, least interested in your products then make them more interested.
I just stated my opinion. I never cursed or bashed your products. I super rarely catapult but I said that given some hard edges are protruding from harness lines it makes it less safe in waves/freestyle when people are flying out and can bang on the gear with their faces. Sorry for 6 times cheaper fishing pole wrap.. It's 2-3 times cheaper. (revised).
So, will be waiting for more cool stuff from Lisa specifically for Wave/Freestyle folk and some of them (me included) use top of the line lightest stuff... because 1) some of us are very lazy to do extra work when conditions go crazy as it's already more work plus 2) heavy cheap Alu and Fiber wood stuff can smash your face pretty nicely when things go south. Also don't overengineer stuff like NoerStick extension.
Just got my first set of Lisa IQ Foil harness lines and immediately went 2 knots quicker downwind than ive ever gone before. That may not seem like much but when you are racing that can be a big difference.