I think it is obvious but I could be wrong and it could be entertaining to hear the opinion of others. Who has right of way at 1.05 minutes?
Guy on wave stuffed up going too hard. Should have given guy groveling out a bit of room... he's clearly struggling with the wind; clewfirst, pretty wobbly.
Here in WA this would definitely result in some form of reactionary legislation with lollypop ladies taking to the water. Maybe a sneaky finger up the date "stop and search" once you hit the shore.
People get on a wave, Immediately think they are Polakow, and loose their bloody marbles..
This is why I don't trust strangers to use common sense when waves are involved..
On a track this would be known as a "Racing incident" imho
Agree that the guy on the wave has a better chance of avoiding it than the guy going clew first though.
The guy on the wave has to avoid him.
From the angle of the other guy's sail, he was slogging in almost zero wind on the way in, but maybe he had dropped off the previous wave and was just getting started.
In theory the sailor sailing out has right of way for three reasons.
First he's on starboard tack, lame but still a sailing legality.
secondly he's not planing so has less steerage than the planing sailor therefore cannot avoid an incident.
Thirdly he's on his way out, general rule again, the sailor heading out to sea has right of way.
I do agree about the jeep thing........That and getting more women involved in handing out free stuff at beaches...
Sorry if I got it a bit wrong but in the still picture it looks like one is heading out, I haven't studied it in minute detail. Does look like clew first too.
Anyway who really cares as long as they are both ok, nothing got too damaged, sometimes a collision is just something that happens.....
We cant all be right all of the time.....
Does sailing switch stance clew first on port count as starboard? lol
BTW We need to take hints from Peru windsurfing organisers...
Hopefully the new Angulo is like a red bull, it might give me wings...???
There again it might not and I might get as trashed as those two blokes in the video.
I need divine intervension with my sailing skills. I just hope it works.
I think terminal is the only one who has actually watched the vid? The only way that guy could be sailing out is if he was going clew first, and from the angle of the sail it would have had to be mega onshore.
Doesn't look even remotely onshore to me.
Anyway, commonsense should prevail, the guy on the wave should have stayed clear of the guy slogging as the guy slogging had no way of avoiding the collision.
They are both coming in so the guy on the wave needed to avoid that. The other guy was dogging, fell backwards over the front of his board when he knew he was about to be smashed.
The problem I have here is everyone saying the guy on his way out has the right of way ordinarily. WTF..... Ok sure we all go in waves for two reason (wave riding and maybe jumps) and i think that gay rule which i have heard before depends on the location too.
If u are sailing at a good wave ridin spot (Gnaraloo, spot x, margies etc) and you thing that blasting out through the line up is going to give u right of way to get a jump over the guy coming in on a wave and blasting down the line, you kinda gotta be prepared to cop a mouthful of abuse and the treat of your head being smacked in from the guy on the wave that u just fcked up his wave. It's the guy going out that should be doing everything to make sure he is not anywhere near the waveriding section on the way out if there is someone on the wave.
I think the only exception to this is if someone has caught a wave before u and fell off etc...just where u want to hit the lip then as long as they showed some attempt to not completely stuff your wave, sure, obviously dont run them over but basic rule is person on the wave should be given every opportunity to ride that without interference. It's just a respect thing I think yeah?
The hittee has right of way over the hitter ... once. Maybe twice. [}:)]
The more manouverable rider has to avoid the less manouverable rider.
If the less manouverable rider is making a habit of getting in the way and screwing things up for everybody then reasonable consideration goes out the window.
according to a windsurfwa site the sailor heading out has right of way.
I have heard this same rule many times and is the one I have always stuck by. The guy on the wave has far greater speed and manouverability in many cases than the guy heading out, no matter what the location.
Not relevant to the vid seeing as both guys were heading in, so the guy in front had right of way. Seeing as we don't have rear vision it's impossible to have right of way from behind.
But when it all comes down to it, no matter what, keep everyone safe. Right of way is of little value from a hospital bed...or worse.
I hope I,m not grovelling out at gnaraloo in 12 knots and then have terry mow me down cause he has right of way not!!!If you are plannig on a wave face powered up u should keep clear of the sailor sub planning .
Glad Terry and Filthy weighed in.
Ad nauseum ....... going out has ROW as he may have to bear away to get planing and get out past the big nasty section.
BUT if you are planing out you do not enforce your ROW if it will fk up somebody's wave ride, just so you can get a nice jump off the section.
Both are just politeness - if you are riding a wave and some dude is grovelling out, let him get out so he doesn't get smashed. ie: he has no choices cos he is grovelling and just trying to get out. And he has ROW anyway.
But if it is a riding oriented spot and you are planing out easily and can go over the whitewater or the vertical section , or down to where it is nowhere near breaking (ie: you have CHOICES) you dont line up the vertical section for a big jump if a guy on the wave is going to hit that section.
Politeness.
If he is about to make the drop and does not go down the line he may get munched so soemtimes the guy on the way does not have all the manouevrability
and that is why u ask about any local rules cos spots vary in their riding or jumping focus. Not just say "what size" in some half legible euro accent and then head out expecting to have ROW on both tacks [}:)]
yeah... this is quite simple... you run over someone that's stationary you are wrong... period.
Reality is if you run someone over in any case and it goes to court because the other person is seriously injured be prepared to have a very good argument why you ran them over. I am guessing the old "it was my wave but he didn't get off so I ran him over wouldn't wash with any judge".
Apart from that... if you are running someone over un-purpose your are a dick head. There just is no justification.
In regards to the video... looks like the guys on the wave didn't know what he was doing.