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MilesH said..
Had anybody else managed to try the new HA wings - keen to find out how they compare to the old ones - especially the 1240

I've talked to guys that have used them and they say the main difference is that they have a better low end and a better high end.. and the new tip design allows the foil tips to come out of the water during hard turns without cavitating.. So all round noticeable better.

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DavidJohn said..

MilesH said..
Had anybody else managed to try the new HA wings - keen to find out how they compare to the old ones - especially the 1240

I've talked to guys that have used them and they say the main difference is that they have a better low end and a better high end.. and the new tip design allows the foil tips to come out of the water during hard turns without cavitating.. So all round noticeable better.

Great thanks, all sounds positive!

Any comments on the extra width?

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MilesH said..
Has anybody else tried the new Naish HA wings?

I've managed to get hold of the new 1240 but we've had a wind drought in the UK for the last week or so!

I had a demo on the new 1040 on their 72L Hover. The foil was very smooth and reactive, good glide as well
I think the only missing piece is a good tail wing but these are coming soon.

The Hover wing is one of the best 70L range boards I tried. Easy take off, very balanced for a sinker and feel really
good and natural on flight. Took no time to get used to.

Along withe the new ADX wing one can get a full Naish setup and not look elsewhere. Definitely upped their game.

Hi, I have the 2023 85L Hover, and have just bought the new (2024) 72L Hover.
I haven't tried it yet, but hopefully in the next few days,___will report back!
The longer water line, and slight increase in width towards the nose, on the new 72L, will make the transition easier, I hope.

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jonysan said..
Hi, I have the 2023 85L Hover, and have just bought the new (2024) 72L Hover.
I haven't tried it yet, but hopefully in the next few days,___will report back!
The longer water line, and slight increase in width towards the nose, on the new 72L, will make the transition easier, I hope.

Let me know John

I fnally.managed to get out on the new 1240HA - although the wind died after about an hour!

Set up: 85ish kg with wetsuit etc, 85l Naish Carbon Ultra, Carbon 100 mast and 220 HA stab (chopped).

My previous foil was the old 1240HA, so by direct comparison my views are:

- The increase in glide is really noticeable and a welcomed addition.
- It is slightly quicker than the old 1240, but only marginally.
- It turns nicely for its size (wider than the old 1240). I was expecting to notice the extra width in turning but I didn't.
- More noticeable from foot pressure build up as the speed increased (I quite liked that).
- I didn't get much chance to try pumping it, but the Limited chances I did, it felt like you needed to use less front foot pressure, with more pressure on the back leg. (I am no expert yet so take that with a pinch of salt). The extra glide was great for pumping.
- A similar stall speed as the old 1240 (which I feel is quite low for a foil of its size).
- It needed slightly more wind to get it up than the old 1240 and would stall if you gave it too much angle of attack. Like most HA foils it seems to need glide along the water to build speed and then a gradual lift.
- The extra width was noticeable in chop and I could feel it moving under me more than the old 1240.

On the whole a great wing and definitely an upgrade on the previous version. I'll use it as a fairly light wind wing and upto about 18-20 knots. Above that and I'll use the Mach1 1100.

A question for any Naish people, does anyone know why Naish made the latest HA wings a lot wider than the previous versions?

Anyone here ridden the c30 and c100 s27 masts? II can get the c100 95cm for just a few hundred more than the c30 85cm. Deciding if it's worth the upgrade and whether I want an 85 or 95cm mast.
Any noticeable performance benefits, mast weight?

I'm only 75kg so far from the heavyy weight category.
Cheers

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Qtwind said..
Anyone here ridden the c30 and c100 s27 masts? II can get the c100 95cm for just a few hundred more than the c30 85cm. Deciding if it's worth the upgrade and whether I want an 85 or 95cm mast.
Any noticeable performance benefits, mast weight?

I'm only 75kg so far from the heavyy weight category.
Cheers

I would go the C100, otherwise if going the C35 you're going to wonder if the C100 was the better option. I have the 85 and 95 in the C100, I use the 85 for winging and 95 for kitefoil. But, when the conditions are big I use the 95 on the wing as it helps avoid breaching when dropping in on big swells.

My new Jet 1040HA arrived today and looking forward to a session tomorrow.

Pic shows the new versus the previous iteration.

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MilesH said..
Nice one! Let us know how you feel it compares and differs to the previous.

I'd be interested to know if you run it in the same place in the foil tracks as the previous 1040. I found the 1240 needed to be moved slightly further back, but I've still only really used it in overpowered conditions to date, so need to get it out on a reasonable day to make a fair conclusion.

MilesH, how are you finding the 1240 for light conditions? I'm looking for something that gets going earlier than the Mach 1 900 which I love for the stronger stuff. The previous 1240 is too thick and sluggish, not really enjoyable to ride, is the S28 1240 a good option? Even the 1440 might be a good light wind option maybe, the previous 1440 was a real slug. I'm 80kgs.

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airsail said..

MilesH said..
Nice one! Let us know how you feel it compares and differs to the previous.

I'd be interested to know if you run it in the same place in the foil tracks as the previous 1040. I found the 1240 needed to be moved slightly further back, but I've still only really used it in overpowered conditions to date, so need to get it out on a reasonable day to make a fair conclusion.

MilesH, how are you finding the 1240 for light conditions? I'm looking for something that gets going earlier than the Mach 1 900 which I love for the stronger stuff. The previous 1240 is too thick and sluggish, not really enjoyable to ride, is the S28 1240 a good option? Even the 1440 might be a good light wind option maybe, the previous 1440 was a real slug. I'm 80kgs.

I have the Mach 1 1100 for strong winds and until recently the S27 HA1240 for lighter wind.

The new S28 HA1240 I've used as low as 12 knots and once up it is a great light wind foil. Glides a lot further than the old one and turns well for its size. In comparison to the Mach 1 1100 it gets up a lot earlier and will be a LOT earlier than the Mach 1 900.

For my weight at 85kg it needs slightly more wind than the old S27 1240 and you really have to let it plane along the surface to build speed or it will stall a lot more than the old 1240. But once up, it is a step up. More glide, slightly faster and turns well. Don't expect night and day difference in speed, but it does have more pace.

Lower than 12 knots I am yet to find a reliable way to pump it up (unlike the old 1240). It stalls out too much for me, but maybe I just need to adapt my technique.

To answer your question, yes I'd happily use it as a light wind foil if down to 12 knots. But any less I'd be looking at something slightly bigger (maybe the 1440), but only because of the need for planing before getting it up, once up it would be great.

If I find a reliable way to pump it up with limited wind, I'll let you know
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