How good is the new North Sonar?

I kitefoil on MA 1050 v1 for few seasons. Always using small kites 2.5m, 4m, 5m, 6m, 9m in very light 10-13kn. Usually my kite is smaller than wing sizes same day or similar.
Recently I bought MA 700 v2 and 178 tail. Needs a little more initial speed to get on foil may be couple kn. It's faster but I don't feel way faster again may be 5kn faster. Turns much easier and faster and sharp, but I think it's due to stab is flat. First day I felt more front foot pressure on the same mast position, and it was very pitchy on ya. Next day moved it back 1cm to compensate, it became more even stance and surprisingly got pitch stable on ya. Was able to do all my tricks first day 360, h2t and t2h tacks, rodeo rides - had to seat more forward.
Unfortunately had no very big swell, but even on small knee to waist swell it rides way better. Glides very nice and smooth, turns easier, accelerates into swell if i have to catch.
So far I liked a lot specially in strong winds. For light wind It's harder to keep it flying when I switch stance it drops if speed is not enough.

my front wing makes a ticking sound after every turn. I have already tried tightening or loosening the screws and using mounting paste between the front wing and the fuselage!? anyone have an idea!?

Anyone here been on the new DW front wings (1400, 1100, etc) and (anhedral?) s192, s142 stabilizer?

Despite the name (DW) keen to know their suitability for the different disciplines e.g. DW wing, wing surf, wing freeride.

Though available not sure they've been launched (e.g. with designer videos)

Thanks!

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FerK said..
my front wing makes a ticking sound after every turn. I have already tried tightening or loosening the screws and using mounting paste between the front wing and the fuselage!? anyone have an idea!?

A mate had that sound too , ..when I took it for a spin I noticed it aswell, we put it on the beach and applied pressure to the foil and the sound was coming from inside the board the mast track cassette block was creaking and moving , ended up being a Warranty,.... board was replaced,...

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FerK said..
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this sound?

Best to show it to your North dealer. Don't try to fix yourself.

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MProject04 said..
Anyone here been on the new DW front wings (1400, 1100, etc) and (anhedral?) s192, s142 stabilizer?

Despite the name (DW) keen to know their suitability for the different disciplines e.g. DW wing, wing surf, wing freeride.

Though available not sure they've been launched (e.g. with designer videos)

Thanks!

Any news? I would be intersted in the DW1100 for winging, esp. maneuver ability...
And the new stabs

For lightwind I still stand with my old MA1350, is there someone, who has compared that wing to MA1200V2 or MA1500V2?

Thanks

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nixmatters said..

lenzilot said..

MProject04 said..
Anyone here been on the new DW front wings (1400, 1100, etc) and (anhedral?) s192, s142 stabilizer?

Despite the name (DW) keen to know their suitability for the different disciplines e.g. DW wing, wing surf, wing freeride.

Though available not sure they've been launched (e.g. with designer videos)

Thanks!

Any news? I would be intersted in the DW1100 for winging, esp. maneuver ability...
And the new stabs

For lightwind I still stand with my old MA1350, is there someone, who has compared that wing to MA1200V2 or MA1500V2?

Thanks

I have the same question - MA1350 vs MA1200V2?

Just sold my old MA1200, which I used lately for both winging and (very slow) kitefoiling, both with C600+S210.

The MA850V2/S178 arrived yesterday and I'm surely covered for kitefoiling. But the bigger MA-V2 are sold out in Europe and until back in stock in about 3 weeks, I can get a very cheap MA1350. Is it worth it?

Looking at the specs the MA1200V2 should have same or better performance than the MA1350. Anyone has the thicknesses?
MA1350 - Span 830 - AR 5.2
MA1200V2 - Span 875 - AR 6.4

You have to tell us a bit more about yourself (your weight and level, board volume, wing size).

What conditions do you ride in and what type of riding do you want to do with your future front wing?

Have you tried winging your MA850v2?

Right off the bat I'd say skip on the MA1350 (v1). It's an old design.

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AndyScavy said..
New catalog North Wingfoil 2025 is online
issuu.com/northactionsportsgroup/docs/north_foil_catalogue_2025

New Board Seek and Swell

thanks for sharing. Pretty uninspiring I gotta say in terms of new items; in their defense, the existing collection is pretty complete though.
I think their HA set is in need for an improvement.
Boards line-up definitely misses a "midlength" shape in the mix although the Seek finally gets a much needed revamp (longer + narrow.

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Tangur said..

nixmatters said..

lenzilot said..

MProject04 said..
Anyone here been on the new DW front wings (1400, 1100, etc) and (anhedral?) s192, s142 stabilizer?

Despite the name (DW) keen to know their suitability for the different disciplines e.g. DW wing, wing surf, wing freeride.

Though available not sure they've been launched (e.g. with designer videos)

Thanks!

Any news? I would be intersted in the DW1100 for winging, esp. maneuver ability...
And the new stabs

For lightwind I still stand with my old MA1350, is there someone, who has compared that wing to MA1200V2 or MA1500V2?

Thanks

I have the same question - MA1350 vs MA1200V2?

Just sold my old MA1200, which I used lately for both winging and (very slow) kitefoiling, both with C600+S210.

The MA850V2/S178 arrived yesterday and I'm surely covered for kitefoiling. But the bigger MA-V2 are sold out in Europe and until back in stock in about 3 weeks, I can get a very cheap MA1350. Is it worth it?

Looking at the specs the MA1200V2 should have same or better performance than the MA1350. Anyone has the thicknesses?
MA1350 - Span 830 - AR 5.2
MA1200V2 - Span 875 - AR 6.4

You have to tell us a bit more about yourself (your weight and level, board volume, wing size).

What conditions do you ride in and what type of riding do you want to do with your future front wing?

Have you tried winging your MA850v2?

Right off the bat I'd say skip on the MA1350 (v1). It's an old design.

Wingfoil beginner 76kg, 108L Indiana board, but need to size down soon. Wings 4, 5, 6 and 7m, but I feel a good starting technique and a good foil foil should make my 7m Nova Light Wind obsolete. Planning to test and get the new North Pro wings. Mostly lakes/flat water, when strong the wind is usually very gusty (and a good gliding foil makes a differece). Started end of last year with the 1850R and transitioned to the MA1200 pretty soon. But none of them is good enough in lighter winds, nor has a good top speed.
The MA850V2 I intend to use for kite foiling (MA1050V2 is sold out too) and boat/cable until I up my wing skills. Most of my foil experince is cable/boat. I have no interest in jumping. To tack&jybe comfortably is my next goal.

Anyone know if the SF830 can be run with the s215 stab or must one really have the s185?

Both sXX5 stabs are for the SF.

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AndyScavy said..

SlowlyButSurely said..

AndyScavy said..
New catalog North Wingfoil 2025 is online
issuu.com/northactionsportsgroup/docs/north_foil_catalogue_2025

New Board Seek and Swell

thanks for sharing. Pretty uninspiring I gotta say in terms of new items; in their defense, the existing collection is pretty complete though.
I think their HA set is in need for an improvement.
Boards line-up definitely misses a "midlength" shape in the mix although the Seek finally gets a much needed revamp (longer + narrow.

And the Swell in 65lt ... finally (and other misures)
And mav2 in size 600 e 500
And Sf in size 530

I' m really happy above all for the swell ...

Geometry of the Swell seems very close to the Seek's one. Dont you think?
I still believe they could have made the Swell closer to a midlength, longer and narrower in order to offer something more unique and different from the Seek...

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MProject04 said..

SlowlyButSurely said..

MProject04 said..
Anyone know if the SF830 can be run with the s215 stab or must one really have the s185?

Both sXX5 stabs are for the SF.

totally fine with s208 or s178.
Actually I'd say most of the riders I talked to or rode with, prefer much more running SF930, 830 and 680 with the S208 and S178 as the Sxx5 with speed tend to point down the board and are too slow.

Thanks glad I have the s208!

Agree w above, 208 everyday driver, 178 if powered up. I break out the 215 chopped to the dashed line for light wind and pump. I like the 185 on them as well. It really does come down to what you want to do. If I'm pumping and don't mind going slower the 5's. Anything else the 8's. I just got the DW1100 a week ago but we've had no wind at all, she's sitting dry for now.

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riverripper said..
Who is already riding the new North HM (High modulus) mast in 85cm and could give a short review?Is it that much stiffer, thinner and faster compared to the regular CF mast?Please let me know.

Had it out for a few sessions now. Works as advertised - stiffer and thinner, really nice. If you buy new I would choose the HM, but I think an upgrade is not necessary as the CF85 is also a great mast.

Broke my c700 fuse today. Don't know what happened. Maybe after a jump... but inside it's broken. The mast is wobbling inside now. Lucky I still have my C600, but I always used the c700. I'm not sure if I want a new C700 of wait for the c650...

Do any of you who have tried several of North's foils have any recommendations on which wing is best suited for light wind foiling? I then aim to mainly focus on getting up in the least possible wind, but if possible also fun to use.

I weigh 95 kg and currently have sf930/c600/85 mast/s185 which I use together with a 63l board in winds from 13 knots. I now want a light wind setup with a new foil and board to be able to cruise around.

Can maybe the DW1400 with a Horizon board be a good alternative?