Select to expand quoteJonathanC said..
20 years of intermittent tennis elbow from windsurfing, grinders etc etc the ONLY thing that has ever worked for me is Therabar.
I looked into buying a Therabar on Amazon and noticed that one of the common items purchased along with the Therabar was the Powerball. I happened to have an old basic Powerball, so I started spinning it 5 minutes per arm/day and my elbow started to improve right away and is a lot better now.
I don't know for certain if the elbow pain is from wingfoiling, but it started soon after I started wingfoiling. It didn't really affect my windsurfing or wingfoiling that much and the arm often also felt better right after a session. It does seem like a common problem for wingfoilers.
I found a reference to Powerball on this thread and ended up buying one. Amazing. It rehabbed my shoulders and those of a friend within minutes!
Years of action sports and a brain dead e-scooterist have left me with shoulders a bit worse for wear. A few minutes with this and I had shoulder range of motion that I haven't had in ages. My friend has been suffering for 3 months from something like RSI. It was 95% gone within minutes.
I got it for about $130 on Amazon Australia.
rpmpower.com/info/autostart-powerball/
Surprised there is only one or two mentions of finger issues - I have sprained two fingers getting something wrong and I also get the sore knuckles after long upwind tacks, but that is usually when using a brand new wing when handles still feel like they are covered in soap.
And then I have managed to strain 2x hamstrings trying to save tacks going wrong, no idea how that is even possible as you legs are not really extended or under any major strain.
Otherwise I feel it's very gentle overall workout with absolutely no back issues.
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Midatlantic, what was the modification you did? Also what wing did you switch to that resolved the issue? I especially feel that when getting up in the morning after previous day heavy sessions.
Select to expand quoteFoilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Midatlantic, what was the modification you did? Also what wing did you switch to that resolved the issue? I especially feel that when getting up in the morning after previous day heavy sessions.
Also keen to know what you did to modify. I'm a doctor and I just about diagnosed myself with early onset arthritis as the sign and symptoms matched perfectly when I started winging regularly. But as they say, common things occur commonly and now I ascribe the stiffness to winging. Have experienced it across brands with handles (I've never used a boom) so it's probably my technique and not the brand. I can live with it, but it's very noticeable in the mornings (and morning stiffness of small joints is a classic sign of arthritis). As the joints warm up the stiffness improves. I thought it would improve over time, but I still get it after a big day.
Select to expand quoteMidatlantic, what was the modification you did? Also what wing did you switch to that resolved the issue? I especially feel that when getting up in the morning after previous day heavy sessions.
This mod has been working well. My aching fingers improved significantly.
Select to expand quotetangogeoff said..
I found a reference to Powerball on this thread and ended up buying one. Amazing. It rehabbed my shoulders and those of a friend within minutes!
Years of action sports and a brain dead e-scooterist have left me with shoulders a bit worse for wear. A few minutes with this and I had shoulder range of motion that I haven't had in ages. My friend has been suffering for 3 months from something like RSI. It was 95% gone within minutes.
I got it for about $130 on Amazon Australia.
rpmpower.com/info/autostart-powerball/
So that thing actually works ? Honestly watched the vid and thought it's one of those ridiculous scams . spinning a metal ball in your hand . well I will be damned. Cool.
As someone coming from a surfing background, foiling and wind sports were quite different skill sets that I previously had zero understanding. When learning to jibe, I would frequently taco the board from not going in with enough speed. Never hit the foil, but board rails to the shins were common.
Select to expand quoteArthurAlston said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Midatlantic, what was the modification you did? Also what wing did you switch to that resolved the issue? I especially feel that when getting up in the morning after previous day heavy sessions.
Also keen to know what you did to modify. I'm a doctor and I just about diagnosed myself with early onset arthritis as the sign and symptoms matched perfectly when I started winging regularly. But as they say, common things occur commonly and now I ascribe the stiffness to winging. Have experienced it across brands with handles (I've never used a boom) so it's probably my technique and not the brand. I can live with it, but it's very noticeable in the mornings (and morning stiffness of small joints is a classic sign of arthritis). As the joints warm up the stiffness improves. I thought it would improve over time, but I still get it after a big day.
First i tried cutting a section of small diameter pvc pipe lengthwise to put inside the handle (duct taped in place) so my fingers would have a curved, laterally flat surface to grip (as opposed to a more squared off U shaped handle). That was somewhat harsh (no padding), so I think I ended up adding a layer of pipe insulation with duct tape. This kinda sucked, which added to my motivation to get a quiver of new wings.
I think what caused the issue for me was a combination of the radial bend of the handles and the square edges. I naturally have 'bony' knuckles, and it just seemed to be a bad combo. Torsional, unergonomic stress coupled with hard edges did my hands in for a stint.
My new wings are BRM (boardriding Maui), which are hard to get outside the USA. The handles are amazing. The front handle has a cant to it so that your wrist and hand are in alignment when trucking upwind under tension. Handles are rigid and straight, no U shape crap, with a rounded grip side and flat underside. I think the new Cabrina Mantis have similar structure to their handles.
Also, I have 4 sizes of wings so I can pick the eyes out of the wind and get my preferred power level. Before I was only on a 5M or 3.5M. I'm now using a 2M more than I ever expected.
Another finger related injury I had was some kind of deep tissue damage between my index finger and middle finger. Hurt it while flagging the 5m Swing and using my index finger to guide/stabilize the wing while wave riding. Or it may have been while gybing with hand on front strut handle and finger extended) (can't remember) The Swing swung and it felt like there was a lateral separation in between that joint. Super painful and kept injuring it repeatedly while it was healing just opening my hand. Finally made a splint and weeks later it healed. So be careful about finger guiding the wing. Newer gear with stiffer handles are lowering the likelihood of this type of injury.
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..ArthurAlston said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Midatlantic, what was the modification you did? Also what wing did you switch to that resolved the issue? I especially feel that when getting up in the morning after previous day heavy sessions.
Also keen to know what you did to modify. I'm a doctor and I just about diagnosed myself with early onset arthritis as the sign and symptoms matched perfectly when I started winging regularly. But as they say, common things occur commonly and now I ascribe the stiffness to winging. Have experienced it across brands with handles (I've never used a boom) so it's probably my technique and not the brand. I can live with it, but it's very noticeable in the mornings (and morning stiffness of small joints is a classic sign of arthritis). As the joints warm up the stiffness improves. I thought it would improve over time, but I still get it after a big day.
First i tried cutting a section of small diameter pvc pipe lengthwise to put inside the handle (duct taped in place) so my fingers would have a curved, laterally flat surface to grip (as opposed to a more squared off U shaped handle). That was somewhat harsh (no padding), so I think I ended up adding a layer of pipe insulation with duct tape. This kinda sucked, which added to my motivation to get a quiver of new wings.
I think what caused the issue for me was a combination of the radial bend of the handles and the square edges. I naturally have 'bony' knuckles, and it just seemed to be a bad combo. Torsional, unergonomic stress coupled with hard edges did my hands in for a stint.
My new wings are BRM (boardriding Maui), which are hard to get outside the USA. The handles are amazing. The front handle has a cant to it so that your wrist and hand are in alignment when trucking upwind under tension. Handles are rigid and straight, no U shape crap, with a rounded grip side and flat underside. I think the new Cabrina Mantis have similar structure to their handles.
Also, I have 4 sizes of wings so I can pick the eyes out of the wind and get my preferred power level. Before I was only on a 5M or 3.5M. I'm now using a 2M more than I ever expected.
Another finger related injury I had was some kind of deep tissue damage between my index finger and middle finger. Hurt it while flagging the 5m Swing and using my index finger to guide/stabilize the wing while wave riding. Or it may have been while gybing with hand on front strut handle and finger extended) (can't remember) The Swing swung and it felt like there was a lateral separation in between that joint. Super painful and kept injuring it repeatedly while it was healing just opening my hand. Finally made a splint and weeks later it healed. So be careful about finger guiding the wing. Newer gear with stiffer handles are lowering the likelihood of this type of injury.
MidAtlanticFoil - thanks for the details. I had tried a previous iteration of the Cabrinha Crosswing. I liked the feel and handling of the wing but did notice some fatigue in the forearm due to the large dia but had not considered the ergonomics. Since BRM is not available outside of the US I will look at other wings such as the Cabrina Mantis/Crosswing.
Could you tell me what dia of the BRM handles is.
Select to expand quoteFoilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..ArthurAlston said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Midatlantic, what was the modification you did? Also what wing did you switch to that resolved the issue? I especially feel that when getting up in the morning after previous day heavy sessions.
Also keen to know what you did to modify. I'm a doctor and I just about diagnosed myself with early onset arthritis as the sign and symptoms matched perfectly when I started winging regularly. But as they say, common things occur commonly and now I ascribe the stiffness to winging. Have experienced it across brands with handles (I've never used a boom) so it's probably my technique and not the brand. I can live with it, but it's very noticeable in the mornings (and morning stiffness of small joints is a classic sign of arthritis). As the joints warm up the stiffness improves. I thought it would improve over time, but I still get it after a big day.
First i tried cutting a section of small diameter pvc pipe lengthwise to put inside the handle (duct taped in place) so my fingers would have a curved, laterally flat surface to grip (as opposed to a more squared off U shaped handle). That was somewhat harsh (no padding), so I think I ended up adding a layer of pipe insulation with duct tape. This kinda sucked, which added to my motivation to get a quiver of new wings.
I think what caused the issue for me was a combination of the radial bend of the handles and the square edges. I naturally have 'bony' knuckles, and it just seemed to be a bad combo. Torsional, unergonomic stress coupled with hard edges did my hands in for a stint.
My new wings are BRM (boardriding Maui), which are hard to get outside the USA. The handles are amazing. The front handle has a cant to it so that your wrist and hand are in alignment when trucking upwind under tension. Handles are rigid and straight, no U shape crap, with a rounded grip side and flat underside. I think the new Cabrina Mantis have similar structure to their handles.
Also, I have 4 sizes of wings so I can pick the eyes out of the wind and get my preferred power level. Before I was only on a 5M or 3.5M. I'm now using a 2M more than I ever expected.
Another finger related injury I had was some kind of deep tissue damage between my index finger and middle finger. Hurt it while flagging the 5m Swing and using my index finger to guide/stabilize the wing while wave riding. Or it may have been while gybing with hand on front strut handle and finger extended) (can't remember) The Swing swung and it felt like there was a lateral separation in between that joint. Super painful and kept injuring it repeatedly while it was healing just opening my hand. Finally made a splint and weeks later it healed. So be careful about finger guiding the wing. Newer gear with stiffer handles are lowering the likelihood of this type of injury.
MidAtlanticFoil - thanks for the details. I had tried a previous iteration of the Cabrinha Crosswing. I liked the feel and handling of the wing but did notice some fatigue in the forearm due to the large dia but had not considered the ergonomics. Since BRM is not available outside of the US I will look at other wings such as the Cabrina Mantis/Crosswing.
Could you tell me what dia of the BRM handles is.
82mm diameter. Smaller than the cabrina I believe.
Here's a photo of the back strut handle. Wing is deflated.. the strut material isn't rubbing fingers when inflated.
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..ArthurAlston said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Midatlantic, what was the modification you did? Also what wing did you switch to that resolved the issue? I especially feel that when getting up in the morning after previous day heavy sessions.
Also keen to know what you did to modify. I'm a doctor and I just about diagnosed myself with early onset arthritis as the sign and symptoms matched perfectly when I started winging regularly. But as they say, common things occur commonly and now I ascribe the stiffness to winging. Have experienced it across brands with handles (I've never used a boom) so it's probably my technique and not the brand. I can live with it, but it's very noticeable in the mornings (and morning stiffness of small joints is a classic sign of arthritis). As the joints warm up the stiffness improves. I thought it would improve over time, but I still get it after a big day.
First i tried cutting a section of small diameter pvc pipe lengthwise to put inside the handle (duct taped in place) so my fingers would have a curved, laterally flat surface to grip (as opposed to a more squared off U shaped handle). That was somewhat harsh (no padding), so I think I ended up adding a layer of pipe insulation with duct tape. This kinda sucked, which added to my motivation to get a quiver of new wings.
I think what caused the issue for me was a combination of the radial bend of the handles and the square edges. I naturally have 'bony' knuckles, and it just seemed to be a bad combo. Torsional, unergonomic stress coupled with hard edges did my hands in for a stint.
My new wings are BRM (boardriding Maui), which are hard to get outside the USA. The handles are amazing. The front handle has a cant to it so that your wrist and hand are in alignment when trucking upwind under tension. Handles are rigid and straight, no U shape crap, with a rounded grip side and flat underside. I think the new Cabrina Mantis have similar structure to their handles.
Also, I have 4 sizes of wings so I can pick the eyes out of the wind and get my preferred power level. Before I was only on a 5M or 3.5M. I'm now using a 2M more than I ever expected.
Another finger related injury I had was some kind of deep tissue damage between my index finger and middle finger. Hurt it while flagging the 5m Swing and using my index finger to guide/stabilize the wing while wave riding. Or it may have been while gybing with hand on front strut handle and finger extended) (can't remember) The Swing swung and it felt like there was a lateral separation in between that joint. Super painful and kept injuring it repeatedly while it was healing just opening my hand. Finally made a splint and weeks later it healed. So be careful about finger guiding the wing. Newer gear with stiffer handles are lowering the likelihood of this type of injury.
MidAtlanticFoil - thanks for the details. I had tried a previous iteration of the Cabrinha Crosswing. I liked the feel and handling of the wing but did notice some fatigue in the forearm due to the large dia but had not considered the ergonomics. Since BRM is not available outside of the US I will look at other wings such as the Cabrina Mantis/Crosswing.
Could you tell me what dia of the BRM handles is.
82mm diameter. Smaller than the cabrina I believe.
Here's a photo of the back strut handle. Wing is deflated.. the strut material isn't rubbing fingers when inflated.
Midatlantic. - Your diameter seems a bit off. The Armie bar is 24.0 mm( so just over an inch)
Anyone else - have a measurement for the Cabrina Cross wing and Mantis. Any other wings with tube handles?
Select to expand quoteFoilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..ArthurAlston said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Midatlantic, what was the modification you did? Also what wing did you switch to that resolved the issue? I especially feel that when getting up in the morning after previous day heavy sessions.
Also keen to know what you did to modify. I'm a doctor and I just about diagnosed myself with early onset arthritis as the sign and symptoms matched perfectly when I started winging regularly. But as they say, common things occur commonly and now I ascribe the stiffness to winging. Have experienced it across brands with handles (I've never used a boom) so it's probably my technique and not the brand. I can live with it, but it's very noticeable in the mornings (and morning stiffness of small joints is a classic sign of arthritis). As the joints warm up the stiffness improves. I thought it would improve over time, but I still get it after a big day.
First i tried cutting a section of small diameter pvc pipe lengthwise to put inside the handle (duct taped in place) so my fingers would have a curved, laterally flat surface to grip (as opposed to a more squared off U shaped handle). That was somewhat harsh (no padding), so I think I ended up adding a layer of pipe insulation with duct tape. This kinda sucked, which added to my motivation to get a quiver of new wings.
I think what caused the issue for me was a combination of the radial bend of the handles and the square edges. I naturally have 'bony' knuckles, and it just seemed to be a bad combo. Torsional, unergonomic stress coupled with hard edges did my hands in for a stint.
My new wings are BRM (boardriding Maui), which are hard to get outside the USA. The handles are amazing. The front handle has a cant to it so that your wrist and hand are in alignment when trucking upwind under tension. Handles are rigid and straight, no U shape crap, with a rounded grip side and flat underside. I think the new Cabrina Mantis have similar structure to their handles.
Also, I have 4 sizes of wings so I can pick the eyes out of the wind and get my preferred power level. Before I was only on a 5M or 3.5M. I'm now using a 2M more than I ever expected.
Another finger related injury I had was some kind of deep tissue damage between my index finger and middle finger. Hurt it while flagging the 5m Swing and using my index finger to guide/stabilize the wing while wave riding. Or it may have been while gybing with hand on front strut handle and finger extended) (can't remember) The Swing swung and it felt like there was a lateral separation in between that joint. Super painful and kept injuring it repeatedly while it was healing just opening my hand. Finally made a splint and weeks later it healed. So be careful about finger guiding the wing. Newer gear with stiffer handles are lowering the likelihood of this type of injury.
MidAtlanticFoil - thanks for the details. I had tried a previous iteration of the Cabrinha Crosswing. I liked the feel and handling of the wing but did notice some fatigue in the forearm due to the large dia but had not considered the ergonomics. Since BRM is not available outside of the US I will look at other wings such as the Cabrina Mantis/Crosswing.
Could you tell me what dia of the BRM handles is.
82mm diameter. Smaller than the cabrina I believe.
Here's a photo of the back strut handle. Wing is deflated.. the strut material isn't rubbing fingers when inflated.
Midatlantic. - Your diameter seems a bit off. The Armie bar is 24.0 mm( so just over an inch)
Anyone else - have a measurement for the Cabrina Cross wing and Mantis. Any other wings with tube handles?
Edit: the BRM's circumference is 82Mm 
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..ArthurAlston said..Foilnut said..MidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Midatlantic, what was the modification you did? Also what wing did you switch to that resolved the issue? I especially feel that when getting up in the morning after previous day heavy sessions.
Also keen to know what you did to modify. I'm a doctor and I just about diagnosed myself with early onset arthritis as the sign and symptoms matched perfectly when I started winging regularly. But as they say, common things occur commonly and now I ascribe the stiffness to winging. Have experienced it across brands with handles (I've never used a boom) so it's probably my technique and not the brand. I can live with it, but it's very noticeable in the mornings (and morning stiffness of small joints is a classic sign of arthritis). As the joints warm up the stiffness improves. I thought it would improve over time, but I still get it after a big day.
First i tried cutting a section of small diameter pvc pipe lengthwise to put inside the handle (duct taped in place) so my fingers would have a curved, laterally flat surface to grip (as opposed to a more squared off U shaped handle). That was somewhat harsh (no padding), so I think I ended up adding a layer of pipe insulation with duct tape. This kinda sucked, which added to my motivation to get a quiver of new wings.
I think what caused the issue for me was a combination of the radial bend of the handles and the square edges. I naturally have 'bony' knuckles, and it just seemed to be a bad combo. Torsional, unergonomic stress coupled with hard edges did my hands in for a stint.
My new wings are BRM (boardriding Maui), which are hard to get outside the USA. The handles are amazing. The front handle has a cant to it so that your wrist and hand are in alignment when trucking upwind under tension. Handles are rigid and straight, no U shape crap, with a rounded grip side and flat underside. I think the new Cabrina Mantis have similar structure to their handles.
Also, I have 4 sizes of wings so I can pick the eyes out of the wind and get my preferred power level. Before I was only on a 5M or 3.5M. I'm now using a 2M more than I ever expected.
Another finger related injury I had was some kind of deep tissue damage between my index finger and middle finger. Hurt it while flagging the 5m Swing and using my index finger to guide/stabilize the wing while wave riding. Or it may have been while gybing with hand on front strut handle and finger extended) (can't remember) The Swing swung and it felt like there was a lateral separation in between that joint. Super painful and kept injuring it repeatedly while it was healing just opening my hand. Finally made a splint and weeks later it healed. So be careful about finger guiding the wing. Newer gear with stiffer handles are lowering the likelihood of this type of injury.
MidAtlanticFoil - thanks for the details. I had tried a previous iteration of the Cabrinha Crosswing. I liked the feel and handling of the wing but did notice some fatigue in the forearm due to the large dia but had not considered the ergonomics. Since BRM is not available outside of the US I will look at other wings such as the Cabrina Mantis/Crosswing.
Could you tell me what dia of the BRM handles is.
82mm diameter. Smaller than the cabrina I believe.
Here's a photo of the back strut handle. Wing is deflated.. the strut material isn't rubbing fingers when inflated.
Midatlantic. - Your diameter seems a bit off. The Armie bar is 24.0 mm( so just over an inch)
Anyone else - have a measurement for the Cabrina Cross wing and Mantis. Any other wings with tube handles?
Edit: the BRM's circumference is 82Mm
Got, ok so 82mm circumference = dia of 26mm ;o)
Add my vote for hand/wrist/finger injuries from either crashing with the hand in the handle, or getting flung and landing on the leading edge.
Elbow tendinitis seems to be a prime winging injury.
When prone foiling my feet and ankles take a beating, always seem to be getting whacked by the board or foil.
I use straps and have a "go down with the ship" approach to them. Specifically, I find if you're going to use them, you need to commit and make sure your feet are locked in for wave riding and jumps. The last thing you want to have happen is have one foot stay in and one come out (unless you are for some reason doing that intentionally). I lived through that on an aerial years ago windsurfing and it was bad. I was off the water for a year.
When you keep the board on your feet in a crash, I find you are much more capable of maintaining a board position where you will not land on the foil or twist an ankle or leg.
i'm at level where i can blast about on foil, still trying to nail gybes, but don't jump yet. prefer speed to freestyle for now. always had front straps as felt comfortable. last week had pretty bad sprain when foot got stuck during high speed breach. not walking properly yet, but don't think its too far off me being back on water. will be taking straps off though as at my stage only going to be trying to go faster and higher odds of happening again with potentially worse injury. so if you are relatively new and unsure i would say bin them if you don't jump. not really needed.
also don't use coiled wing leash and coiled board leash. other injury i nearly had was a stroke during screaming at them getting tangled all the time :)
Select to expand quoteJeroensurf said..
Nobody mentioned a broken wallet and cracked credit card limit yet?
Nor having to ask for forgiveness rather than permission by "she who must be obeyed". 
And possible back injuries by having to sleep on the couch. 
Terrible tow foiling accident occurred recently on Kauai where longtime firefighter nearly died due to throat laceration from foil. Seriously amazing rescue in the news story found here:
www.instagram.com/p/CmZ03taIB2Y/?hl=en
If I were towing / winging in big waves, I'd be seriously considering something like this after watching the above.
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Elbow injury after wing session last night. Pretty painful to move. Bloody typical, just before summer holidays! 
Select to expand quoteStretchy said..
Elbow injury after wing session last night. Pretty painful to move. Bloody typical, just before summer holidays!
Hey Stretch. Have you crossed over to the dark art
. It's highly addictive. I smacked my elbow last night but ice, nurofen and 10knts seems to have done the trick.
I seem to be having a bad run of injuries recently but mostly associated with either gnarly conditions or learning to tack. Windsurfed for nearly 40 years and have had more injuries in 15mths of winging! My list of injuries which mostly have been sustained in the last 4 mths as I tackle more challenging conditions / moves :
- shoulder bursitis soreness (7 days off)
- Cut under eye (4 days off)
- Cut back of the head (medically treated , 7 days off)
- bruised ribs (10 days off)
- various ankle sprains (no time off)
- elbow hyper extensions (no time off)
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..
Terrible tow foiling accident occurred recently on Kauai where longtime firefighter nearly died due to throat laceration from foil. Seriously amazing rescue in the news story found here:
www.instagram.com/p/CmZ03taIB2Y/?hl=en
If I were towing / winging in big waves, I'd be seriously considering something like this after watching the above.
bulletproofzone.com/products/blade-runner-anti-slash-balaclava-lined-with-bladenoma-cut-resistant-fibre-level-3?currency=USD&variant=37511962689707&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gc_id=18590531233&h_ad_id=&gclid=Cj0KCQiA14WdBhD8ARIsANao07icdBxg36phLOKoSqA--R5vwxPAOHahH3r5pKRwHyfXISCvThZkcOEaAr-NEALw_wcB
Terrible accident, really lucky to be alive.
Coincidentally i was looking at HPPE cut proof vests and t-shirts a few days ago.Had not considered the neck...
But really any body part can be critical when considering a deep cut/stab like a foil can make.
Maybe safety trailing edges ,at least for the mast like Cedrus, should be a standard.
Select to expand quoteflatchat said..Stretchy said..
Elbow injury after wing session last night. Pretty painful to move. Bloody typical, just before summer holidays!
Hey Stretch. Have you crossed over to the dark art. It's highly addictive. I smacked my elbow last night but ice, nurofen and 10knts seems to have done the trick.
Let's call it dabbling Tim! I'd like to get proficient at it, but so far I'd have to say windfoiling is easier to learn and not as hard on the body (except for hooked in crashes, they hurt 
I'm dealing with persistent shoulder pain in my left / leading shoulder (non-dominant) when making certain internal/external rotations. Poor range of motion both internal and external rotation when abducted. Pretty sure winging is a pretty big part of the cause, along with a dang desk job. With all the talk of weak grip, I think I went too weak in my shoulders on a session or two, maybe a long overpowered race where my harness setup wasn't working right. Working on training my rear deltoid and infraspinatis to get proper positioning of the shoulder.
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Intersting, I sold my slicks because I felt that I was hurting my wrists and circulation with the boom and went to ozone and F1. Hands are still a bit stiff but my wrists feel better. Harness is a help if holding long tacks.
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..
My fingers got super achy and sore when I was using my f-one swings. Almost like early onset arthritis, where it hurt to open and close my hands. I modified the handles and it helped, then switched wings and the pain is gone.
Intersting, I sold my slicks because I felt that I was hurting my wrists and circulation with the boom and went to ozone and F1. Hands are still a bit stiff but my wrists feel better. Harness is a help if holding long tacks.
