haven't been following it but are there any Americans actually in the crew?, they sound like aussies
Select to expand quotechoco said..
haven't been following it but are there any Americans actually in the crew?, they sound like aussies
They are....
I think I do know what do you need to win Americas Cup 
All you need is wet old piece of rag !!
Look at this: 1.38:21
How much water could you drain ? We are not talking about extra 5kg lead as balance.
All you need is old rag or forgotten T-shirt to block the water drain holes when you need and the spray will fill your hulls.
Now all you need is allow this water to flow from one hull to another at every turn (a little bit of pumping may help too)
During the race this drain remains miraculously dry 
Select to expand quoteIan K said..
So what are the tricks to getting it to work live. If I click on that youtube link now I'm one of one of 45 AC fans watching a clock on a black screen clicking down from 15 hours 9 min 12 seconds. When 50,000 are watching i can't get through. Do I watch that clock all night to preserve my place in the queue or what?
Not sure exactly which link you are using, but this is what I'm doing to watch it.
1. Go to YouTube website, search on "Americas Cup", and then in any of the video listings click on "America's Cup" to go to the official page.
2. Scroll down about one page or so, and click on 'AMERICA'S CUP LIVE'.
Has worked every time for me no matter what time...mid-race, at the end, etc.
Argghhh, after all these early mornings, I sleep through my alarm today!!!
Where did it go wrong? Everywhere like yesterday?
What's the difference between an American cat and a New Zealand cat?
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A New Zealand cat only has 8 lives. (hee hee, made that one up myself.)
How can they go from 8-1 up to lose??? Someone must have won a sh$&load of money on this.
Well done Jimmy, Russ & all the crew you did an amazing job. Thanks Team NZ for being part of such an amazing bit of racing. Insane. Loved almost every minute of it.
Geez you just want to give Dean Barker, the crew and the rest of New Zealand a hug. The 26th of September will now on be 'hug a kiwi' day. Oh you can feel a nation's pain.
Not wanting to rub it in but now you guys know how we feel each time the Wallabies play for the Bledisloe cup.
I think today would be the only day that a Kiwi would contemplate swapping the Bledisloe Cup for another sort of cup.
I did say contemplate, & even then it would only be for a few seconds - they are very, very serious about their rugby 
Commiserations to Dean Barker and the Kiwis. You raced well but lets face it Oracle just had way too much upwind speed. I am certainly going to hug every Kiwi I see today and provide some comfort. I can't stand Larry Ellison and his bleating and really wanted the Kiwis to take him out but not to be.
The richest man in the world wins again!!!!!!! Great racing though....I thoroughly enjoyed watching the series.
Cheers guys - Yeah many gutted looking people around work today, however, most seem to accept that it was rich man vs rich man, rather than nation vs nation.
I gotta say, I am surprised at the level of support for the kiwi boat on this forum, I was thinking that with Spithill as the skipper you lot would be Oracle all the way!
Anyhoo, I hope that Dirty Larry is happy with his shiny little trophy....it only cost him about a billion hahahahahha
PS whats the story with the automatic control on the foils???? I'd like to know how that got allowed (I mean it must run on stored power right? Its electronic!!!!)
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I gotta say, I am surprised at the level of support for the kiwi boat on this forum, I was thinking that with Spithill as the skipper you lot would be Oracle all the way!
Yeah, it's kinda weird. Did 'USA' really win the cup???
I never know who to cheer for now everything is internationally corporatised. Same with 'local' football teams. I remember when I was a kid and used to barrack for St George rugby league team in Sydney. One of the team players was my primary school teacher, another was a local copper, a couple of others were mates of my older brother from school, and they used to train across the road. Walking to the ground to watch the game on Sunday's, I remember walking behind team members along the footpath, as they were also walking to the ground from their home because they were locals.
Now the team has nothing to do with the area really, except their (sometimes) home ground, and players move with the money. One day your cheering for a player, the next season that same player is playing for the opposition.
www.cupinfo.com/en/americas-cup-2013-oracle-design-andrew-mason-13067.php
^^ Very interesting article on the optimisation of hull shapes for the AC72's by one of the Oracle designers. His prediction basically came true, the Oracle hulls were almost purely optimised for windward displacement sailing, what one them the cup; of course they obviously foiled upwind in the last few races at certain times once it became clear in certain situations that mode was favorable.
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PS whats the story with the automatic control on the foils???? I'd like to know how that got allowed (I mean it must run on stored power right? Its electronic!!!!)
There is no automatic control of the foils. There is no storage of energy permitted via either electrical (with a few exceptions, blige pumps, electronics etc) or hydraulic means. All energy required must be provided by the crew on demand. The mail foils are trimmed forward and aft to maintain hull attitude. The switching of the valves in the systems may be done electronically (by human interface IE not computer controlled) but all power required to move them is provided on demand by the crew. It is the inherent stability of the foil designs' which makes them sailable.
Edit: I may stand corrected, appologies Chris...apparently OTUSA was running a fly by wire foil control system?...which seems to be not within the rules....although if it's just switching maybe it is legal as long as you keep pumping the hydraulics up to it on demand. Surely against the spirit of competition though? Can't really find too much info on it for obvious reasons.
While watching the news the Mrs just asked me how they got the lines marked on the water? My comment there are 2 small guys in each boat (one on each hull) painting them....."But they could go faster if they didn't have to do that wouldn't they"?
Select to expand quoteCJW said..
www.cupinfo.com/en/americas-cup-2013-oracle-design-andrew-mason-13067.php
^^ Very interesting article on the optimisation of hull shapes for the AC72's by one of the Oracle designers. His prediction basically came true, the Oracle hulls were almost purely optimised for windward displacement sailing, what one them the cup; of course they obviously foiled upwind in the last few races at certain times once it became clear in certain situations that mode was favorable.
Great article on Australia II
I am unsure of this article's veracity but it makes for an interesting debate
www.magic.co.nz/How-the-Americas-Cup-was-won/tabid/674/articleID/38076/Default.aspx{%224850893645296%22%3A178443602341457}&action_type_map={%224850893645296%22%3A%22og.likes%22}&action_ref_map=[]
You could say there was only a coat of paint in the whole competition. Do your trick on this one Panda, paint it allblack just leaving the Kiwi logo. Sponsors, if only they'd pay money without ruining the colour scheme.
Was listening to a pom on the radio today. He pointed out team USA changed to a pommy tactician then started winning. Therefore England really won it.
There was a point when Jimmy Spithill was way behind and I remember he was asked something about the overall outcome and he said something like "how good would it be to win from here, what an opportunity". I've looked through my Youtube history and can't find it - anyone know what race it was? I thought then it was an awesome display of leadership, now I see it as something truly amazing.
Found it
Select to expand quotedan berry said..
Was listening to a pom on the radio today. He pointed out team USA changed to a pommy tactician then started winning. Therefore England really won it.
Plus they changed the rake of the rig and started to tack from hull to hull instead of dragging 2 hulls around in each tack.
