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Created by Ian K > 9 months ago, 19 Nov 2019
log man
VIC, 8289 posts
29 Dec 2019 9:48PM
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Macroscien said..



Kamikuza said..


I guess Greenpeace thinks



For me future Green world means:

replacing this

with those





Spot on mate.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
29 Dec 2019 9:59PM
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Macroscien said..









Kamikuza said..





Greenpeace





Astonishing lack of empathy for the rest of human population.





You're right: Greenpeace hates corporations and science more than it has any concern for actual people.


geneticliteracyproject.org/2019/11/08/golden-rice-the-gmo-crop-loved-by-humanitarians-opposed-by-greenpeace/


I guess Greenpeace thinks those millions of kids don't deserve to see, and should stopping being poor so they can buy organic rice..?

(This goes towards the anti-science ideology pushed by Greenpeace, Nellie log jam gets his knickers in a knot.)


Ah, everyone is wrong! NASA, 97percent of scientists, Greenpeace, governments, the markets that won't go anywhere near nuclear, everyone except you, Andrew Bolt and Sky after dark crew.

Ha!

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
29 Dec 2019 10:04PM
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May be now is time for Grumman to sell those for people walking in Pekin on usual day , Tokyo on bad and Sydney in bushfire season?
O irony , requirements of modern world may soon exceed requirements of the strictest Muslim women coverings. Modern people will hide behind those cosmic suits to enjoy fresh air and protection from elements while walking outside here on Earth.
One may also observe that alien visitors two millennia ago , considered Earth atmosphere already unsafe to breath and all used protective helmets and filtering breathing apparatus beneath !






Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
29 Dec 2019 11:30PM
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log man said..
Ah, everyone is wrong! NASA, 97percent of scientists, Greenpeace, governments, the markets that won't go anywhere near nuclear, everyone except you, Andrew Bolt and Sky after dark crew.

Ha!


No. No, misrepresented but you know that, oh for sure, probably but what exactly, I've never said that, while it's possible it's unlikely, who and who (but they're journalists so most likely).

Ha! Can't put those words in my mouth.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
29 Dec 2019 11:38PM
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Macroscien said..

For me future Green world means:

replacing this

with those



Fantastic, I whole-heartedly agree and can't wait for my factory-made reliable electric super bike. Mmm, flat torque curves...

But just a quick question -- where are you going to get the power to recharge their batteries?

Rango
WA, 808 posts
29 Dec 2019 9:57PM
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Funny term" Green Energy "when it doesn't actually make plants green and how much green space you need to destroy to get enough energy for some of the day.

Little Jon
NSW, 2115 posts
30 Dec 2019 11:10AM
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Electric cars are too expensive to buy, they will never be cheaper than petrol. It's only the tax on petrol which makes it more expensive for consumption but the purchase price is way too high. I drive a petrol golf and there is an EV version selling in europe and even in the petrol head USA but the aussie price would be $80k to $100k buy the time you buy the charger. It's good for the wealthy to reduce their massive footprints but not for the general population.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3068 posts
30 Dec 2019 12:15PM
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Foghorn said..
Funny term" Green Energy "when it doesn't actually make plants green and how much green space you need to destroy to get enough energy for some of the day.



I dunno about that.
Back in the day when I used to work for a living, I noticed that the grass always grew better on the footpath beside my parked truck during the summer. I put that down to the shade that it created during the morning reducing the evaporation of the dew, so the grass was a little better watered than further along the footpath.
I think you'll probably find that plant growth is better in a field full of solar panels for that reason. Most of our flora is adapted to grow well during the cooler wetter parts of the year. The shading from solar panels creates those conditions artificially. Like a shadehouse that people use for ferns and orchids or other plants that are adapted to thrive under the canopy of the forest.

Rango
WA, 808 posts
30 Dec 2019 10:07AM
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My grass grows better where its sheltered from the prevailing southery wind in full sun.

holy guacamole
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30 Dec 2019 11:13AM
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Plenty or car parks and rooftops ripe for covering with solar panels. No need to fill up dusty earth with them. No one's proposing we clear greenfield land for solar either. There's plenty of plain old dirt to fill up with them if necessary.

holy guacamole
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30 Dec 2019 11:14AM
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Little Jon said..
Electric cars.....they will never be cheaper than petrol.

Bollocks.

holy guacamole
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30 Dec 2019 11:30AM
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Foghorn said..
Funny term" Green Energy "when it doesn't actually make plants green and how much green space you need to destroy to get enough energy for some of the day.


Not even close to as ridiculously funny as "clean coal".

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
30 Dec 2019 3:10PM
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holy guacamole said..

Little Jon said..
Electric cars.....they will never be cheaper than petrol.


Bollocks.


I can't see why they can't be cheaper than petrol - when we get large enough markets. I'd have to check, but a a an analogy, in pretty sure electric RC stuff of cheaper than nitro (gas).
And coming back to RC after the introduction of brushless and LiPo batteries... why would anyone bother with gas anymore?

Well apart from the recharge time and how noxious the batteries are...

roodney
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30 Dec 2019 1:30PM
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Kamikuza said..

holy guacamole said..


Little Jon said..
Electric cars.....they will never be cheaper than petrol.



Bollocks.



I can't see why they can't be cheaper than petrol - when we get large enough markets. I'd have to check, but a a an analogy, in pretty sure electric RC stuff of cheaper than nitro (gas).
And coming back to RC after the introduction of brushless and LiPo batteries... why would anyone bother with gas anymore?

Well apart from the recharge time and how noxious the batteries are...


Yea Ive just got back into RC racing this year, brushless lipos are awesome! X-Ray T4 rulez

Buster fin
WA, 2586 posts
30 Dec 2019 4:04PM
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Kamikazu, your ass is rather eloquent, but I wish you'd stop talking out of it. Japans nuclear waste, what happens to it? Research, then get back to us about how wonderful and clean nuclear energy is.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
30 Dec 2019 7:29PM
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Buster fin said..
Kamikazu, your ass is rather eloquent, but I wish you'd stop talking out of it. Japans nuclear waste, what happens to it? Research, then get back to us about how wonderful and clean nuclear energy is.


His new electric bike isn't nuclear powered so case closed

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
30 Dec 2019 6:45PM
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log man said..


Buster fin said..
Kamikazu, your ass is rather eloquent, but I wish you'd stop talking out of it. Japans nuclear waste, what happens to it? Research, then get back to us about how wonderful and clean nuclear energy is.




His new electric bike isn't nuclear powered so case closed



Oh a two-fer.

The waste is disposed as it usually is in other facilities around the world -- putting it back into the ground where it came from: www.jaea.go.jp/english/04/ntokai/backend/backend_01_04.html

Any PEV *will* be nuclear powered as we still get about 20% of our power from nuclear and that'll be increased another 20% by 2030 (if things go according to the current plan) in order to meet Kyoto Protocol etc recommendations.

Note that since the nuclear plants have been shut down, carbon emissions have risen. It's almost like ... mo' nuclear, less carbon. Huh.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Japan#Carbon_emissions

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
30 Dec 2019 8:59PM
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Kamikuza said..



The waste is disposed as it usually is in other facilities around the world -- putting it back into the ground where it came from: www.jaea.go.jp/english/04/ntokai/backend/backend_01_04.html



The worst of the stuff is deposited back deep underground. Problem solved.
But there is surprise , surprise. The most recent research found to surprise of all involved that uranium deposited unexpectedly start to leak to underground water resources. Thanks to newly discovered chemical reaction nobody thought before.
So happy drinking for all from now.
I would rather dump the lot to the ocean to dilute as much as possible.
Discovery about the leak was made actually in UK but seems that both Island are very similar in size for me and fate will be the same for both.One may say that high radiation dosage could kill all bacteria in water- so underground water for drinking will be at least bacteriologically clean of all living organism.


Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
30 Dec 2019 9:48PM
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We all should be now happy that all our friends around the world decided to dump their nuclear waste here.
We will be rich !
How proud we could be that rest of the world would trust us we could handle this nuclear nightmare ! Actually we shouldn't charge our friends much for storage and disposal. in most cases it is our stuff we dig out and they just return back to base after a little use. Don;t you think?
www.foe.org.au/import-waste
UK study show that nuclear waste - problem for next 10,000 years at least , so why not to send to somebody else worry about.

One may say/ argue that importing all plastic bottle from all over the world to Australia may be better then importing nuclear waste from friends only.

One may say/ or already did:
Why do you even need enemies when you have friends already?

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
30 Dec 2019 11:34PM
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Macroscien said..
We all should be now happy that all our friends around the world decided to dump their nuclear waste here.
We will be rich !
How proud we could be that rest of the world would trust us we could handle this nuclear nightmare ! Actually we shouldn't charge our friends much for storage and disposal. in most cases it is our stuff we dig out and they just return back to base after a little use. Don;t you think?
www.foe.org.au/import-waste
UK study show that nuclear waste - problem for next 10,000 years at least , so why not to send to somebody else worry about.

One may say/ argue that importing all plastic bottle from all over the world to Australia may be better then importing nuclear waste from friends only.

One may say/ or already did:Why you need enemies when you have a friends already?


Ah ha. Macro always right.

Pugwash
WA, 7685 posts
30 Dec 2019 9:26PM
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log man said..
Macroscien said..
We all should be now happy that all our friends around the world decided to dump their nuclear waste here.
We will be rich !
How proud we could be that rest of the world would trust us we could handle this nuclear nightmare ! Actually we shouldn't charge our friends much for storage and disposal. in most cases it is our stuff we dig out and they just return back to base after a little use. Don;t you think?
www.foe.org.au/import-waste
UK study show that nuclear waste - problem for next 10,000 years at least , so why not to send to somebody else worry about.

One may say/ argue that importing all plastic bottle from all over the world to Australia may be better then importing nuclear waste from friends only.

One may say/ or already did:Why you need enemies when you have a friends already?


Ah ha. Macro always right.


Give us an L.

Give us an O.

Give us a G.

Give us an M.

Give us an A.

Give us an N.

What does it spell???





Cheerleader...

Buster fin
WA, 2586 posts
31 Dec 2019 7:10AM
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Kamikuza said..

log man said..



Buster fin said..
Kamikazu, your ass is rather eloquent, but I wish you'd stop talking out of it. Japans nuclear waste, what happens to it? Research, then get back to us about how wonderful and clean nuclear energy is.





His new electric bike isn't nuclear powered so case closed




Oh a two-fer.

The waste is disposed as it usually is in other facilities around the world -- putting it back into the ground where it came from: www.jaea.go.jp/english/04/ntokai/backend/backend_01_04.html

Any PEV *will* be nuclear powered as we still get about 20% of our power from nuclear and that'll be increased another 20% by 2030 (if things go according to the current plan) in order to meet Kyoto Protocol etc recommendations.

Note that since the nuclear plants have been shut down, carbon emissions have risen. It's almost like ... mo' nuclear, less carbon. Huh.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Japan#Carbon_emissions


Poor research. Their waste is shipped around the world for reprocessing before being shipped back and put in holding cells indefinitely coz its the best they can do. So, nuclear waste, round and round and round and around. An Environmental nightmare should there be a maritime incident.

roodney
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31 Dec 2019 8:12AM
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Buster fin said..

Kamikuza said..


log man said..




Buster fin said..
Kamikazu, your ass is rather eloquent, but I wish you'd stop talking out of it. Japans nuclear waste, what happens to it? Research, then get back to us about how wonderful and clean nuclear energy is.






His new electric bike isn't nuclear powered so case closed





Oh a two-fer.

The waste is disposed as it usually is in other facilities around the world -- putting it back into the ground where it came from: www.jaea.go.jp/english/04/ntokai/backend/backend_01_04.html

Any PEV *will* be nuclear powered as we still get about 20% of our power from nuclear and that'll be increased another 20% by 2030 (if things go according to the current plan) in order to meet Kyoto Protocol etc recommendations.

Note that since the nuclear plants have been shut down, carbon emissions have risen. It's almost like ... mo' nuclear, less carbon. Huh.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Japan#Carbon_emissions



Poor research. Their waste is shipped around the world for reprocessing before being shipped back and put in holding cells indefinitely coz its the best they can do. So, nuclear waste, round and round and round and around. An Environmental nightmare should there be a maritime incident.


Dont talk about f$kashima either....

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
31 Dec 2019 3:53PM
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Macroscien said..





Kamikuza said..




The waste is disposed as it usually is in other facilities around the world -- putting it back into the ground where it came from: www.jaea.go.jp/english/04/ntokai/backend/backend_01_04.html




The worst of the stuff is deposited back deep underground. Problem solved.
But there is surprise , surprise. The most recent research found to surprise of all involved that uranium deposited unexpectedly start to leak to underground water resources. Thanks to newly discovered chemical reaction nobody thought before.
So happy drinking for all from now.
I would rather dump the lot to the ocean to dilute as much as possible.
Discovery about the leak was made actually in UK but seems that both Island are very similar in size for me and fate will be the same for both.One may say that high radiation dosage could kill all bacteria in water- so underground water for drinking will be at least bacteriologically clean of all living organism.



Citation needed

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
31 Dec 2019 4:03PM
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Macroscien said..

















Kamikuza said..










The waste is disposed as it usually is in other facilities around the world -- putting it back into the ground where it came from: www.jaea.go.jp/english/04/ntokai/backend/backend_01_04.html










The worst of the stuff is deposited back deep underground. Problem solved.
But there is surprise , surprise. The most recent research found to surprise of all involved that uranium deposited unexpectedly start to leak to underground water resources. Thanks to newly discovered chemical reaction nobody thought before.
So happy drinking for all from now.
I would rather dump the lot to the ocean to dilute as much as possible.
Discovery about the leak was made actually in UK but seems that both Island are very similar in size for me and fate will be the same for both.One may say that high radiation dosage could kill all bacteria in water- so underground water for drinking will be at least bacteriologically clean of all living organism.








Citation needed







Google that, but not before 2019.
PS.
As TT ( Time Traveler) I could not obviously disclose my sources. Then sometimes I may pop up with something too early , unintentionally. But I am pretty sure that discovery should sink to the public and media about the time we are now.
Google somethin like " soluble uranium" and should come with something already. If not wait a few months or so and should be here for sure.Sorry can.t say more without causing paradox.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
31 Dec 2019 4:33PM
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Macroscien said..
Google that, but not before 2019.


Not my job -- you claim, you provide citations.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
31 Dec 2019 4:49PM
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Macroscien said..
Google that, but not before 2019.





Not my job -- you claim, you provide citations.




You don't understand. If I disclose something that wasn't published yet ( mechanism that uranium isotope transmute) , then discovery will be attributed to me, chronologically.
But I am not the one invented this.
Be patient and drink your water slowly.

FormulaNova
WA, 14921 posts
31 Dec 2019 3:47PM
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Macroscien said..

Kamikuza said..




Macroscien said..
Google that, but not before 2019.






Not my job -- you claim, you provide citations.





You don't understand. If I disclose something that wasn't published yet ( mechanism that uranium isotope transmute) , then discovery will be attributed to me, chronologically.
But I am not the one invented this.
Be patient and drink your water slowly.


I think its you that doesn't understand. Innovation is not someone coming up with a great idea that is out of the blue, innovation is when someone actually comes up with an idea and then implements it. Without being able to implement it, you are just one of hundreds of thousands of people that think they have a great idea.

Anyone, and I mean anyone, can dream up all sorts of solutions to problems, but only a handful actually provide realistic solutions and move humanity along.

If anyone attributes any discovery to you ever, I will buy a hat and then eat it.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
31 Dec 2019 6:06PM
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Kamikuza said..

you provide


Whatever.
Here it is how it works with TT. Hopefully I could disclose that much and we will see what happen now.
When TT disclose too much or too early things that are SIGNIFICANT then paradox protection mechanism kick in. Everything reverse and back to normal. But at what cost (?) , I don't know. Suppose I will tell you that given asteroid will hit the Earth on that day and hour. You wake up next day and learn the such asteroid even doesn't exist anymore never was!
But sometimes PP ( paradox protection) does work in very unpleasant manner. To prevent something from happening TT could be in the most unexpected way eliminated - for example by hammer dropped on ISS by astronauts, that fall onto Earth and hit TT into head. Alternatively recipient of information is eliminated before information is propagated further - by another complete random coincident.
Hopefully information disclosed in NOT SIGNIFICANT in value and everything exist as usual from now on.
If by any chance SB server will crash tomorrow and wipe whole disc content. that mean opposite.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
31 Dec 2019 6:13PM
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FormulaNova said..

innovation is when someone actually comes up with an idea and then implements it.

Like a GOD, here we are , work well done.
I not interested much seeing you consuming tin hat but if you could draw bunny from it , could be funny.



Just in case , Leave cat alone, don;t eat it too.




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