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Denmark, Holland and now France have had enough!!

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Created by cisco > 9 months ago, 20 Nov 2011
jusavina
QLD, 1463 posts
22 Nov 2011 9:11PM
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Hey Cisco!

I'm french, **** on marine le pen, live in australia, don't drink beer and don't cook on a barbie.
I also get medicare and and I does not spoke a proper english.

How much do you get piss off with that?

I'm sure as soon there will be no more legal or illegal immigrant in the world, the global warming and the GFC will end up...(like would say that dear DICKsmith.

cisco
QLD, 12326 posts
22 Nov 2011 11:38PM
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jusavina said...

Hey Cisco!

I'm french, **** on marine le pen, live in australia, don't drink beer and don't cook on a barbie.
I also get medicare and and I does not spoke a proper english.

How much do you get piss off with that?

I'm sure as soon there will be no more legal or illegal immigrant in the world, the global warming and the GFC will end up...(like would say that dear DICKsmith.



Doesn't bother me at all. As we say here "Fill your boots Sunshine." Not sure what your point is.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
23 Nov 2011 2:33AM
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Oh great, so we've got the Jew hater and now Cisco running quotes from ultra nationalist Le Pen. So cisco are you a neo Nazi as well?

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
23 Nov 2011 2:55AM
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Hitler invaded country after country in Europe.

Google how many countries the Brits + Yanks have invaded.

cisco is not a nazi,the cronies at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue certainly are.

cisco is but one small voice of truth,getting drowned out by the noisy herd of cattle that he co-habits with.

baa,baa.

tatkins
QLD, 344 posts
23 Nov 2011 9:23AM
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Australia was founded by illegal immigrants

poor relative
WA, 9089 posts
23 Nov 2011 10:38AM
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petermac33 said...

talked crap



you've outdone yourself with that last post peter.


Better re-new that script of Olanzapine mate.

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
23 Nov 2011 10:40AM
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tatkins said...

Australia Every countries in the world were founded by illegal immigrants




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Does that make it right for us to foot the bill for the illegals to come and have a good sweet life at the expense of the Aussies tax payers??????

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
23 Nov 2011 10:45AM
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In an other hand..... have some of that!

SomeOtherGuy
NSW, 807 posts
23 Nov 2011 5:20PM
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felixdcat said...

In an other hand..... have some of that!




That ad should read "when the wind blows .. " (etc). Would fit right in for seabreeze! I could go to my boss... "Hey boss, I'm feeling sick. I've gotta go home and take my ****itol medication"

choco
SA, 4032 posts
23 Nov 2011 8:05PM
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bring back the White Australia Policy

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
23 Nov 2011 10:26PM
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cisco said...

kiteboy dave said...

Firstly dem bold bits are noise. You have a little key that says 'del' right?




Firstly:-The paste was from the mail.com homepage and I did delete the noise except the Ads by Google header near the top.


No, you quite clearly didn't delete the rest of the stuff that I bolded, why would you try to claim that you did? It didn't magically appear there. It was actually longer than the cr@p you wanted to endorse.

cisco
QLD, 12326 posts
24 Nov 2011 12:41AM
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kiteboy dave said...

cisco said...

kiteboy dave said...

Firstly dem bold bits are noise. You have a little key that says 'del' right?




Firstly:-The paste was from the mail.com homepage and I did delete the noise except the Ads by Google header near the top.


No, you quite clearly didn't delete the rest of the stuff that I bolded, why would you try to claim that you did? It didn't magically appear there. It was actually longer than the cr@p you wanted to endorse.


No, I did not delete the portion of the post that you highlighted in bold on purpose because as I explained in in my response to your post (if you took the time to read it) because I wanted to show what subjects other people in the broader world than this forum were reading.

Feck I hate having to repeat myself because people these days do not take the trouble to listen to what the other person is saying.

I gave you Kiteboy an Appy Pollie Loggie for my technical oversight of not deleting an "Ads by Google" header.

Is it beyond your pride or anger to give me an APL for not fully reading and understanding my post.

Further, what makes you assume that because I have posted a copy of a news article that I endorse the content.

My only personal input to the post was the question "WHEN WILL WE WAKE UP????"

My question now is when did the art of conversation die and why was it replaced by confrontationalism???


poor relative
WA, 9089 posts
23 Nov 2011 10:50PM
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Why would you post in the first place if you didnt sympathise with the person who is quoted.
You did research the article a bit right?
You do know le pen and his cronies are far right neo Nazi types right?

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
24 Nov 2011 7:25AM
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My question now is when did the art of conversation die and why was it replaced by confrontationalism???

When you endorse the far right you take what you get.


Further, what makes you assume that because I have posted a copy of a news article that I endorse the content.

What is is with oldies, it's the same with chain emails. "Oh well I didn't agree with it but I forwarded it to everyone I know anyway". When you spread it electronically, it's just like you're saying it. There is implied endorsement. Learn that.


I wanted to show what subjects other people in the broader world than this forum were reading.

Was that the idea? A random collection of half cut off headlines? How is that insightful to anyone? Next time try linking to:
www.bbc.co.uk/news
www.aljazeera.com/
www.sbs.com.au/news/


Is it beyond your pride or anger to give me an APL for not fully reading and understanding my post.

Pffffft A thick hide will help you out there on the right.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
24 Nov 2011 10:47AM
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At this point in the Right wingers rant there's usually a sort of defensive back pedaling "I was just saying" or "I was just asking the question" or, "O.K, I didn't say I agreed with EVERYTHING Hitler did", or "most Jews are OK", or "I'm not a racist, but".......Look, Just come out of the closet, be out and proud.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
24 Nov 2011 12:56PM
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Nationalism vs globalism:
Why is it OK to advocate globalism, but nationalism is bad?
Why is it OK to open your borders to everyone without proper planning... do you open your house to everyone?

Protectionism vs freetrade:
Why is it OK to destroy your national industries to benefit a small number of globalist? How can local manufacturing compete when the system is rigged and it costs you more to turn up to work than your competitor for the whole day?

National socialism vs corporatism:
Why is it OK for corporations to pay less tax than the workers of the corporations?
Why do the share holders pay less tax than the workers?
Why does outsourcing/offshoring carry less tax than local production?

Regulated banking vs liberal banking:
Why is it OK for banks to take your money, multiply it by 9 and lend it out or use it as they want?

I'm playing devils advocate here; what policy of National Front are people disagreeing with? I've only seen personal put downs (me too, sorry evlPanda) and the usual insane ramblings of loggy and soggy.

There's a reason why nationalist parties rise to power and that's always due to polarisation, if people did a bit more listening and met in the middle there wouldn't be these wild swings.

The more opinions people have the greater number of options we all have.

Europe is being consumed by an unelected technocrat government that to me looks more and more like a USSR everyday.

Everyone bemoans corporate M&A with it's limiting a choice and monopolistic outcomes... and then some of the same idiots want one world governments, unification, globalisation, etc...

Do you want to wake up in a world where you only have WoolColes and NCB (National Commonwealth Bank).

As long as they don't hurt anyone I don't care what people think, do to themselves, or say.

cisco
QLD, 12326 posts
24 Nov 2011 1:13PM
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FlySurfer said...
Europe is being consumed by an unelected technocrat government that to me looks more and more like a USSR NWO everyday.


Fixed it for ya.

That and the other questions you raised go far beyond left or right political persuasions. These farcical elections around the world dominated by two party systems are just a sideshow for the general public and a smoke screen for the banks and the secretive ruling elites.

They are now talking about a common Euro Bond for EU countries.


Strains in German economy trouble Europe


November 23, 2011 — BERLIN (AP) — The German economy, which has been a bastion while its neighbors have buckled one by one under debt, showed signs of strain Wednesday and raised fears across world financial markets that Europe is far from containing its crisis.

An auction of bonds by the German government flopped, generating some of the weakest demand in a decade. And investors who buy German bonds on the open market demanded higher yields, a sign of concern about Germany's finances.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the head of the European Union clashed openly over one proposed solution to the European crisis — common bonds issued by all 17 nations that use the euro currency.

A European bond could promote stability in the markets. But Merkel said it would not solve "structural flaws" with the euro, and, in a testy exchange, an EU official said Merkel was trying to cut off the debate before it could even start.

"If Germany can't sell bonds, what is the rest of Europe going to do?" asked Benjamin Reitzes, an analyst at BMO Capital Markets. The debt crisis in Europe has already forced Greece, Portugal and Ireland to accept international bailouts, and it has threatened Italy and Spain, which have much bigger economies.

But Germany had weathered the storm. It has the largest economy in Europe, with $3.3 trillion of output last year, or about 20 percent of the EU economy. It is vital to any continent-wide solution, both as a source of strength and as a source of cash.

Like any country with debt, Germany has to tap bond market investors for money. It is also the top contributor to bailouts for other European nations.

Jose Manuel Barroso, the head of the European Commission, promoted the introduction of jointly issued European bonds, coupled with stricter budgetary discipline, as the best way out. The bonds "could bring tremendous benefits," he said.

But Merkel, the German chancellor, told lawmakers in Berlin that it was wrong to suggest that a "collectivization of the debt would allow us to overcome the currency union's structural flaws.

Germany has long opposed European bonds and wants the individual countries of Europe to clean up their own finances so they can eventually borrow at lower rates again.

A closely watched survey from the financial information company Markit showed that economic activity in the 17-nation euro group shrank in November for the third month in a row.

The survey found that the deteriorating economic picture is not confined to debt-stressed countries such as Greece, but increasingly spreading to stronger economies such as Germany and France.

evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
24 Nov 2011 2:55PM
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felixdcat said...

tatkins said...

Australia Every countries in the world were founded by illegal immigrants




Edit
Does that make it right for us to foot the bill for the illegals to come and have a good sweet life at the expense of the Aussies tax payers??????


Wait, what? We pay for illegal immigrants to have a sweet life over here? Really?

Now, are you sure about that? Really, really sure?
I think we can both agree it sounds very nonsensical.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
24 Nov 2011 6:20PM
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FlySurfer said...

Nationalism vs globalism:
Why is it OK to advocate globalism, but nationalism is bad?
Why is it OK to open your borders to everyone without proper planning... do you open your house to everyone?

Protectionism vs freetrade:
Why is it OK to destroy your national industries to benefit a small number of globalist? How can local manufacturing compete when the system is rigged and it costs you more to turn up to work than your competitor for the whole day?

National socialism vs corporatism:
Why is it OK for corporations to pay less tax than the workers of the corporations?
Why do the share holders pay less tax than the workers?
Why does outsourcing/offshoring carry less tax than local production?

Regulated banking vs liberal banking:
Why is it OK for banks to take your money, multiply it by 9 and lend it out or use it as they want?

I'm playing devils advocate here; what policy of National Front are people disagreeing with? I've only seen personal put downs (me too, sorry evlPanda) and the usual insane ramblings of loggy and soggy.

There's a reason why nationalist parties rise to power and that's always due to polarisation, if people did a bit more listening and met in the middle there wouldn't be these wild swings.

The more opinions people have the greater number of options we all have.

Europe is being consumed by an unelected technocrat government that to me looks more and more like a USSR everyday.

Everyone bemoans corporate M&A with it's limiting a choice and monopolistic outcomes... and then some of the same idiots want one world governments, unification, globalisation, etc...

Do you want to wake up in a world where you only have WoolColes and NCB (National Commonwealth Bank).

As long as they don't hurt anyone I don't care what people think, do to themselves, or say.

What a load of old cobblers.

Gunna1
154 posts
24 Nov 2011 3:41PM
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log man said...

FlySurfer said...

Nationalism vs globalism:
Why is it OK to advocate globalism, but nationalism is bad?
Why is it OK to open your borders to everyone without proper planning... do you open your house to everyone?

Protectionism vs freetrade:
Why is it OK to destroy your national industries to benefit a small number of globalist? How can local manufacturing compete when the system is rigged and it costs you more to turn up to work than your competitor for the whole day?

National socialism vs corporatism:
Why is it OK for corporations to pay less tax than the workers of the corporations?
Why do the share holders pay less tax than the workers?
Why does outsourcing/offshoring carry less tax than local production?

Regulated banking vs liberal banking:
Why is it OK for banks to take your money, multiply it by 9 and lend it out or use it as they want?

I'm playing devils advocate here; what policy of National Front are people disagreeing with? I've only seen personal put downs (me too, sorry evlPanda) and the usual insane ramblings of loggy and soggy.

There's a reason why nationalist parties rise to power and that's always due to polarisation, if people did a bit more listening and met in the middle there wouldn't be these wild swings.

The more opinions people have the greater number of options we all have.

Europe is being consumed by an unelected technocrat government that to me looks more and more like a USSR everyday.

Everyone bemoans corporate M&A with it's limiting a choice and monopolistic outcomes... and then some of the same idiots want one world governments, unification, globalisation, etc...

Do you want to wake up in a world where you only have WoolColes and NCB (National Commonwealth Bank).

As long as they don't hurt anyone I don't care what people think, do to themselves, or say.

What a load of old cobblers.



So what bit of this didn't you like Loggy, or is it just the fact that most disagree with you almost all the time that gets your blood boiling. Or maybe, just maybe, you don't like it when someone makes sense!

japie
NSW, 6869 posts
24 Nov 2011 8:19PM
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Loggy, whenever you post Christopher Robin's description of Winnie the Pooh comes to mind, a bear with very little brain. Do you have this effect on your mates or is it just an internet thing?

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
25 Nov 2011 12:45AM
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No, it's one of those situations where you start typing a response to "the load of old cobblers"( FL's manifesto) and you could write a book in response. FL's post is characterised no only by what's said but what's meant ..... the motivation. It's full of half truths, misunderstandings, bogus ideas and over simplicity. EG. Globalism isn't necessarily bad, the olympics are great.... 3rd world wages for Australians are bad..... Nationalism can be good but nationalism being used by right wingers is code. And the code is thinly veiled racism, jingoism, xenophobia etc. Nationalism placed in this context is usually just a dog whistle for the disenfranchised, and the marginalized. Just think of Pauline and the way Howard rode that wave of middle class fury against the refugees. So for me Quoting from neo Nazis is repugnant because words are weapons. Just a couple of more specific criticisms: The national front..... I cant believe that we still have these cockroaches in society. FL .... IF you hold up the national front as some kind of real political option, your peddling xenophobia, racism, white supremacism,....... your holding up hate as a political alternative.......... don't do that....... it's wrong. Do you really need to be told! Oh just one more "Europe looking more like the USSR"....?????? what the ****. Oh and just another one..." There's a reason why nationalist parties rise to power and that's always due to polarisation, if people did a bit more listening and met in the middle there wouldn't be these wild swings". Yes we should be more reasonable when dealing with Nationalists after all they're the friendly face of racism. So summing up .... A load of old cobblers.

cisco
QLD, 12326 posts
25 Nov 2011 2:30AM
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Loggy, you and your mate Soggy need to calm down.

A suggestion that Socialism is not the best system for freedom loving people to live under is not cause for WW III.

This forum is an open discussion area for the exchange of ideas and definitely not a place for anger or personal attacks.

While on the subject of the "National Front", I was quite amused many years ago when I read an article in Penthouse magazine in which they had interviewed a character who was known as "The Skull".

He was the spitting image of Peter Garrett with added horn rimmed glasses with lenses from the bottom of a Coke bottle.

His biggest pissoff with the Australian Government was that they would not let him into the Army so that he could go to Viet Nam and kill slope heads.

When questioned on his opinion on land rights, he said, "Land Rights!!! I'll give 'em land rights!! Rookwood Cemetery, six foot of it."

Now that I have quoted that I suppose you will accuse me of endorsing that concept and that it is my mind set.

In the inimitable words of Telly Savalas (Kojac) "Who loves you baby??"

Without you I might not even be here.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
25 Nov 2011 12:01PM
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cisco said...

Loggy, you and your mate Soggy need to calm down.

A suggestion that Socialism is not the best system for freedom loving people to live under is not cause for WW III.

This forum is an open discussion area for the exchange of ideas and definitely not a place for anger or personal attacks.

While on the subject of the "National Front", I was quite amused many years ago when I read an article in Penthouse magazine in which they had interviewed a character who was known as "The Skull".

He was the spitting image of Peter Garrett with added horn rimmed glasses with lenses from the bottom of a Coke bottle.

His biggest pissoff with the Australian Government was that they would not let him into the Army so that he could go to Viet Nam and kill slope heads.

When questioned on his opinion on land rights, he said, "Land Rights!!! I'll give 'em land rights!! Rookwood Cemetery, six foot of it."

Now that I have quoted that I suppose you will accuse me of endorsing that concept and that it is my mind set.

In the inimitable words of Telly Savalas (Kojac) "Who loves you baby??"

Without you I might not even be here.

"A suggestion that Socialism is not the best system for freedom loving people to live under is not cause for WW III ". Yes correct , but the "information" that your spouting is the stuff that was the cause of World War 2.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
25 Nov 2011 12:16PM
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A while back I was working on pseudo AI, a web bot. Among other things the idea was to crowd source opinions with themes and see how easy it was to create viral campaigns.

It was a fairly simple .net 2 console application using something like System.Net.WebClient, with an xml configuration file that allowed you to define a sequence of actions.

Eg:
- Go to facebook.com
- if you find x and y fields > enter values from x table.
- check mail table
- ...

Once the sequence was dialled in, it was easy to replicate for millions of records... anything that didn't rely on CAPTCHA was fair go... all we did was randomize the First Name, Last Name, etc... from a CRM DB; for testing purposes we used the same email domain so any administrator could easily clean up.

Our phrases and words were categorised primarily by theme, but the app had the ability to save replies. This is where we ran in to trouble, because we didn't have a good reply/conversation algorithm.
The algorithm basically looked and grouped nouns, and based on the number of nouns on the page it would ascertain the theme, and then find the closest reply from the phrases table.

Eg: I ride my bicycle in the rain.
The bot would look for phrases with "bicycle" in it.

What am I getting at? Well I think Loggy is so dumb he can't be human and must be a bot.

Ask a bot a simple question that requires cognitive abilities and they fall over... the new ones (military run ones) have operators that handle those tasks like CAPTCHA, the numeracy tests some forums have, complicated replies, etc...

Hey loggy if you have 3 brain cells and 2 don't have synapses to communicate, how many functioning brain cells do you have?

adolf
1862 posts
25 Nov 2011 10:13AM
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^^^^ Errrr, that's a bit rough ^^^^^

I'm going to red thumb that response.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
25 Nov 2011 4:57PM
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Q: "Hey loggy if you have 3 brain cells and 2 don't have synapses to communicate, how many functioning brain cells do you have?". A: Dunno!,... what do you reckon Einstein?

japie
NSW, 6869 posts
25 Nov 2011 5:19PM
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choco said...

bring back the White Australia Policy


tatkins
QLD, 344 posts
26 Nov 2011 11:28AM
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felixdcat said...

tatkins said...

Australia Every countries in the world were founded by illegal immigrants




Edit
Does that make it right for us to foot the bill for the illegals to come and have a good sweet life at the expense of the Aussies tax payers??????


Every country in the world? How many of those are governed by the direct decedents of those immigrants?
Footing bills for immigrants, really? I think you've probably got that the wrong way around. Most immigrants are considerably more productive than your average Aussie. The risk is Aussie's will end on the dole.

SomeOtherGuy
NSW, 807 posts
26 Nov 2011 12:53PM
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cisco said...

Loggy, you and your mate Soggy need to calm down.


Calm down? All I've done in this thread is put up one post asking what I think are some reasonable questions. I notice you haven't answered them.



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