Select to expand quotestamp said..Razzonater said..
Out of 100 avo and restraining orders at least 80% are falsified...
Now I strongly strongly feel sorry and disagree with everything that the 20% have had to endure yet that doesn't help any of the guys the 80% have manipulated the situation to destroy.
mate, i've been directly involved in hundreds of DV matters and i have no idea where you get this from. in my experience maybe 1%, at a stretch are falsified, and they're exposed very quickly by the court system. perhaps it's different in WA but i highly doubt it.
Really? With what, a house, kids and when you don't overplay your DV hand a nice income. ( you don't want your primary source of income in jail not earning now do you?)
I know a bloke that went the distance on this and the court eventually found the ex was lying at every step, beginning to end. Cost him 10 years of his life and absolutely everything he owned. Even halfway through when relative parties suspected she might be lying he still had to pay for her upkeep. In the end she was found to be "working the system", had to pay him back (could't and never will), and under go psychiatric counselling for a short time. So major consequences for her
.
So I'd guess by the time the court sees a DV case in this circumstance most guys have pretty much been beaten by the system, will make a deal with the prosecutor and just want to get it over with. I'd say the 1% at a stretch are those with deep pockets, plenty of time and enjoy mental, emotional and financial stress and torture thrust on them.
I in no way condone DV (someone tell that to my daughters who delight in giving the old man a bit of an elbow from time to time) but the system is easily worked.
I'm going to provide you a few more facts Chris as to be honest your sitting in you ivory tower with your rose coloured glasses on.
women murdered by their partners in 2018 is 63 which is absolutely disgusting and a lot of lives, horrible horrible facts.
now when we look at suicide rates of males you find that it's 3 x higher than that of womens
17.8 per 100000 men or 5.8 per 100000 for women......
Australia has 25 million ( more actually) population so approx 4450 men kill themselves every year........
So whilst 68 women's life's are important and a disgraceful reflection of our society 4450 men knocking themselves off receives little outrage in comparison.......
The question to be asked is why are they knocking themselves off???
Pretty sure you already know the answer to that one Chris......
If I assume that half of 25m people are male and all of that lot are men, then your suicide rate only gets about 2200.
Select to expand quotebobajob said..stamp said..Razzonater said..
Out of 100 avo and restraining orders at least 80% are falsified...
Now I strongly strongly feel sorry and disagree with everything that the 20% have had to endure yet that doesn't help any of the guys the 80% have manipulated the situation to destroy.
mate, i've been directly involved in hundreds of DV matters and i have no idea where you get this from. in my experience maybe 1%, at a stretch are falsified, and they're exposed very quickly by the court system. perhaps it's different in WA but i highly doubt it.
Really? With what, a house, kids and when you don't overplay your DV hand a nice income. ( you don't want your primary source of income in jail not earning now do you?)
I know a bloke that went the distance on this and the court eventually found the ex was lying at every step, beginning to end. Cost him 10 years of his life and absolutely everything he owned. Even halfway through when relative parties suspected she might be lying he still had to pay for her upkeep. In the end she was found to be "working the system", had to pay him back (could't and never will), and under go psychiatric counselling for a short time. So major consequences for her.
So I'd guess by the time the court sees a DV case in this circumstance most guys have pretty much been beaten by the system, will make a deal with the prosecutor and just want to get it over with. I'd say the 1% at a stretch are those with deep pockets, plenty of time and enjoy mental, emotional and financial stress and torture thrust on them.
I in no way condone DV (someone tell that to my daughters who delight in giving the old man a bit of an elbow from time to time) but the system is easily worked.
yep, just disregard the countless hours i've spent over the years on my feet in court, reading police reports, watching and conducting cross examinations, reading affidavits, hearing stories from hundreds of aggrieved and respondents, researching the reports and studies & my participation in stakeholder conferences.......because you 'know a bloke'
Select to expand quoteMr Milk said..
If I assume that half of 25m people are male and all of that lot are men, then your suicide rate only gets about 2200.
The stats are 6 per day for the Australian male 
ongoing. We have beyond blue and a number of other self help groups. However, that number isn't reducing sadly. 
If that's not a crisis, then one doesn't bloody know what is.
www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/mind/the-mens-mental-health-crisis-australia-can-no-longer-ignore-six-male-suicides-a-day/news-story/cc77b01572676c8b140424777c3ff642
Select to expand quoteMr Milk said..
If I assume that half of 25m people are male and all of that lot are men, then your suicide rate only gets about 2200.
I stand corrected
maths was not my strongest skill set,,,, still 2200 and the funding is a pittance compared to others.......
Select to expand quotestamp said..bobajob said..stamp said..Razzonater said..
Out of 100 avo and restraining orders at least 80% are falsified...
Now I strongly strongly feel sorry and disagree with everything that the 20% have had to endure yet that doesn't help any of the guys the 80% have manipulated the situation to destroy.
mate, i've been directly involved in hundreds of DV matters and i have no idea where you get this from. in my experience maybe 1%, at a stretch are falsified, and they're exposed very quickly by the court system. perhaps it's different in WA but i highly doubt it.
Really? With what, a house, kids and when you don't overplay your DV hand a nice income. ( you don't want your primary source of income in jail not earning now do you?)
I know a bloke that went the distance on this and the court eventually found the ex was lying at every step, beginning to end. Cost him 10 years of his life and absolutely everything he owned. Even halfway through when relative parties suspected she might be lying he still had to pay for her upkeep. In the end she was found to be "working the system", had to pay him back (could't and never will), and under go psychiatric counselling for a short time. So major consequences for her.
So I'd guess by the time the court sees a DV case in this circumstance most guys have pretty much been beaten by the system, will make a deal with the prosecutor and just want to get it over with. I'd say the 1% at a stretch are those with deep pockets, plenty of time and enjoy mental, emotional and financial stress and torture thrust on them.
I in no way condone DV (someone tell that to my daughters who delight in giving the old man a bit of an elbow from time to time) but the system is easily worked.
yep, just disregard the countless hours i've spent over the years on my feet in court, reading police reports, watching and conducting cross examinations, reading affidavits, hearing stories from hundreds of aggrieved and respondents, researching the reports and studies & my participation in stakeholder conferences.......because you 'know a bloke'
Watching crime series on tvs doesn't count.
So your a lawyer in the family court.... course ya not got your best intentions first....
Select to expand quoteRazzonater said..
I'm going to provide you a few more facts Chris as to be honest your sitting in you ivory tower with your rose coloured glasses on.
women murdered by their partners in 2018 is 63 which is absolutely disgusting and a lot of lives, horrible horrible facts.
now when we look at suicide rates of males you find that it's 3 x higher than that of womens
17.8 per 100000 men or 5.8 per 100000 for women......
Australia has 25 million ( more actually) population so approx 4450 men kill themselves every year........
So whilst 68 women's life's are important and a disgraceful reflection of our society 4450 men knocking themselves off receives little outrage in comparison.......
The question to be asked is why are they knocking themselves off???
Pretty sure you already know the answer to that one Chris......
Domestic violence is the issue tho isn't it. Whether women kill their children at this rate or that or whether males have a high suicide rate are both worthy topics but different topics.......and turning it into a men are more hard done by than women argument does nothing.
Select to expand quoteRazzonater said..stamp said..bobajob said..stamp said..Razzonater said..
Out of 100 avo and restraining orders at least 80% are falsified...
Now I strongly strongly feel sorry and disagree with everything that the 20% have had to endure yet that doesn't help any of the guys the 80% have manipulated the situation to destroy.
mate, i've been directly involved in hundreds of DV matters and i have no idea where you get this from. in my experience maybe 1%, at a stretch are falsified, and they're exposed very quickly by the court system. perhaps it's different in WA but i highly doubt it.
Really? With what, a house, kids and when you don't overplay your DV hand a nice income. ( you don't want your primary source of income in jail not earning now do you?)
I know a bloke that went the distance on this and the court eventually found the ex was lying at every step, beginning to end. Cost him 10 years of his life and absolutely everything he owned. Even halfway through when relative parties suspected she might be lying he still had to pay for her upkeep. In the end she was found to be "working the system", had to pay him back (could't and never will), and under go psychiatric counselling for a short time. So major consequences for her.
So I'd guess by the time the court sees a DV case in this circumstance most guys have pretty much been beaten by the system, will make a deal with the prosecutor and just want to get it over with. I'd say the 1% at a stretch are those with deep pockets, plenty of time and enjoy mental, emotional and financial stress and torture thrust on them.
I in no way condone DV (someone tell that to my daughters who delight in giving the old man a bit of an elbow from time to time) but the system is easily worked.
yep, just disregard the countless hours i've spent over the years on my feet in court, reading police reports, watching and conducting cross examinations, reading affidavits, hearing stories from hundreds of aggrieved and respondents, researching the reports and studies & my participation in stakeholder conferences.......because you 'know a bloke'
Watching crime series on tvs doesn't count.
So your a lawyer in the family court.... course ya not got your best intentions first....
Yeah, nah, you've got to respect the blokes experience.
Select to expand quoteRazzonater said..
I'm going to provide you a few more facts Chris as to be honest your sitting in you ivory tower with your rose coloured glasses on.
women murdered by their partners in 2018 is 63 which is absolutely disgusting and a lot of lives, horrible horrible facts.
now when we look at suicide rates of males you find that it's 3 x higher than that of womens
17.8 per 100000 men or 5.8 per 100000 for women......
Australia has 25 million ( more actually) population so approx 4450 men kill themselves every year........
So whilst 68 women's life's are important and a disgraceful reflection of our society 4450 men knocking themselves off receives little outrage in comparison.......
The question to be asked is why are they knocking themselves off???
Pretty sure you already know the answer to that one Chris......
"Rose coloured glasses"; no, I deal with reality and I'm not being a vile piece of lying scum like the filth here who have abused women in words (and judging from their attitude, may have abused women physically).
The fact that men kill themselves is a tragedy, but to claim that the high suicide rate is because of women is a lie.
Your dishonesty is proven by the fact that you know nothing about me, but you claim I'm sitting in an ivory tower. I've been divorced. I've recently been on suicide watch for my best mate, through his divorce. You are a liar to claim that I'm in an ivory tower. Stop lying, please.
Select to expand quotebobajob said..stamp said..Razzonater said..
Out of 100 avo and restraining orders at least 80% are falsified...
Now I strongly strongly feel sorry and disagree with everything that the 20% have had to endure yet that doesn't help any of the guys the 80% have manipulated the situation to destroy.
mate, i've been directly involved in hundreds of DV matters and i have no idea where you get this from. in my experience maybe 1%, at a stretch are falsified, and they're exposed very quickly by the court system. perhaps it's different in WA but i highly doubt it.
Really? With what, a house, kids and when you don't overplay your DV hand a nice income. ( you don't want your primary source of income in jail not earning now do you?)
I know a bloke that went the distance on this and the court eventually found the ex was lying at every step, beginning to end. Cost him 10 years of his life and absolutely everything he owned. Even halfway through when relative parties suspected she might be lying he still had to pay for her upkeep. In the end she was found to be "working the system", had to pay him back (could't and never will), and under go psychiatric counselling for a short time. So major consequences for her.
So I'd guess by the time the court sees a DV case in this circumstance most guys have pretty much been beaten by the system, will make a deal with the prosecutor and just want to get it over with. I'd say the 1% at a stretch are those with deep pockets, plenty of time and enjoy mental, emotional and financial stress and torture thrust on them.
I in no way condone DV (someone tell that to my daughters who delight in giving the old man a bit of an elbow from time to time) but the system is easily worked.
Sure, and I know a guy who has an ex wife who is a far better person than he is, who treats his kids like ****, who bludges money from his ex so he can take the kids out and then instead of taking the kids, spends the cash on drugs.
So saying "I know one person" proves nothing, since anyone can come up with an experience that shows an isolated incident.
Select to expand quoteRazzonater said..stamp said..bobajob said..stamp said..Razzonater said..
Out of 100 avo and restraining orders at least 80% are falsified...
Now I strongly strongly feel sorry and disagree with everything that the 20% have had to endure yet that doesn't help any of the guys the 80% have manipulated the situation to destroy.
mate, i've been directly involved in hundreds of DV matters and i have no idea where you get this from. in my experience maybe 1%, at a stretch are falsified, and they're exposed very quickly by the court system. perhaps it's different in WA but i highly doubt it.
Really? With what, a house, kids and when you don't overplay your DV hand a nice income. ( you don't want your primary source of income in jail not earning now do you?)
I know a bloke that went the distance on this and the court eventually found the ex was lying at every step, beginning to end. Cost him 10 years of his life and absolutely everything he owned. Even halfway through when relative parties suspected she might be lying he still had to pay for her upkeep. In the end she was found to be "working the system", had to pay him back (could't and never will), and under go psychiatric counselling for a short time. So major consequences for her.
So I'd guess by the time the court sees a DV case in this circumstance most guys have pretty much been beaten by the system, will make a deal with the prosecutor and just want to get it over with. I'd say the 1% at a stretch are those with deep pockets, plenty of time and enjoy mental, emotional and financial stress and torture thrust on them.
I in no way condone DV (someone tell that to my daughters who delight in giving the old man a bit of an elbow from time to time) but the system is easily worked.
yep, just disregard the countless hours i've spent over the years on my feet in court, reading police reports, watching and conducting cross examinations, reading affidavits, hearing stories from hundreds of aggrieved and respondents, researching the reports and studies & my participation in stakeholder conferences.......because you 'know a bloke'
Watching crime series on tvs doesn't count.
So your a lawyer in the family court.... course ya not got your best intentions first....
Funny how although you don't seem to be a family lawyer, you can tell everyone the facts and then diss Stamp because they're not a lawyer. When it turns out that Stamp seems to be a family lawyer and therefore knows more facts than you do, you diss them because they are one.....
Hmmm. So knowledge counts unless the other person has more knowledge than you, in which case it doesn't count. Yep, that's logical.
The DV industry is plagued with fake accusations, it's a common tactic in family law and greater access gives greater child support payments and a bigger piece of the pie in dividing up the assets so there is a huge financial incentive for fake accusations. The cream on the cake is possible jail sentence, what better revenge than that!
The laws changed by Gillard do not use the criminal code standards of proof, an acquisition alone is enough.
Next is the women get free legal aid but the men don't so that's part of the reason the stats
Select to expand quotemineral1 said..Mr Milk said..
If I assume that half of 25m people are male and all of that lot are men, then your suicide rate only gets about 2200.
The stats are 6 per day for the Australian male ongoing. We have beyond blue and a number of other self help groups. However, that number isn't reducing sadly.
If that's not a crisis, then one doesn't bloody know what is.
www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/mind/the-mens-mental-health-crisis-australia-can-no-longer-ignore-six-male-suicides-a-day/news-story/cc77b01572676c8b140424777c3ff642
That's tragic. It doesn't mean that it's because of women, which is what some people have been saying.
"The women and the children" ? How do you stop violence against children when you only see the smaller part, admittandy this was a particularly bad year for women, this is why I voted for One Nation, Pauline now has the mandate to drain the family court swamp
The entire DV industry and family court industry and child protection industry is openly biased and will falsify evidence
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..Razzonater said..
I'm going to provide you a few more facts Chris as to be honest your sitting in you ivory tower with your rose coloured glasses on.
women murdered by their partners in 2018 is 63 which is absolutely disgusting and a lot of lives, horrible horrible facts.
now when we look at suicide rates of males you find that it's 3 x higher than that of womens
17.8 per 100000 men or 5.8 per 100000 for women......
Australia has 25 million ( more actually) population so approx 4450 men kill themselves every year........
So whilst 68 women's life's are important and a disgraceful reflection of our society 4450 men knocking themselves off receives little outrage in comparison.......
The question to be asked is why are they knocking themselves off???
Pretty sure you already know the answer to that one Chris......
"Rose coloured glasses"; no, I deal with reality and I'm not being a vile piece of lying scum like the filth here who have abused women in words (and judging from their attitude, may have abused women physically).
The fact that men kill themselves is a tragedy, but to claim that the high suicide rate is because of women is a lie.
Your dishonesty is proven by the fact that you know nothing about me, but you claim I'm sitting in an ivory tower. I've been divorced. I've recently been on suicide watch for my best mate, through his divorce. You are a liar to claim that I'm in an ivory tower. Stop lying, please.
I'll tell you precisely where you lost me.
your statement less than one percent are made up.....
Thats a flat out lie and you know it.
Unless you are the most naive lawyer in the known solar system you know that it's far far higher than that, you may not be permitted to represent someone who you feel is guilty or lying but that doesn't entitle you to present less than 1% as a fact.
Its presented to appease your own soul knowing full well you have shafted men's lives representing a lady who is lying through her teeth.
This is why I stated you live in an ivory tower with rose coloured glasses on. I'm not a liar I'm calling you out.
People pay you to lie for them, It's what you do , some would say your a professional.
1% at a stretch and you work in the system , it's a lie and yes you have rose coloured glasses on
The DV,courts and child protection industry follows the Duluth Model which says the man is the perpetrator and the woman and child the victim, try and tell the industry otherwise and they just won't believe you
www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/breakfast/harley-cuzens/11756594?fbclid=IwAR1foi_O55F_W9TVRg1LIlwUvXE6RrpuhoKkrTDilqfiCJKTLGM-Zs8nD5g
More fake evidence and corruption in family court presented by government paid advisors
www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-18/family-court-psychologist-hit-with-ban-over-report-into-father/11609212
Select to expand quoteRazzonater said..Chris 249 said..Razzonater said..
I'm going to provide you a few more facts Chris as to be honest your sitting in you ivory tower with your rose coloured glasses on.
women murdered by their partners in 2018 is 63 which is absolutely disgusting and a lot of lives, horrible horrible facts.
now when we look at suicide rates of males you find that it's 3 x higher than that of womens
17.8 per 100000 men or 5.8 per 100000 for women......
Australia has 25 million ( more actually) population so approx 4450 men kill themselves every year........
So whilst 68 women's life's are important and a disgraceful reflection of our society 4450 men knocking themselves off receives little outrage in comparison.......
The question to be asked is why are they knocking themselves off???
Pretty sure you already know the answer to that one Chris......
"Rose coloured glasses"; no, I deal with reality and I'm not being a vile piece of lying scum like the filth here who have abused women in words (and judging from their attitude, may have abused women physically).
The fact that men kill themselves is a tragedy, but to claim that the high suicide rate is because of women is a lie.
Your dishonesty is proven by the fact that you know nothing about me, but you claim I'm sitting in an ivory tower. I've been divorced. I've recently been on suicide watch for my best mate, through his divorce. You are a liar to claim that I'm in an ivory tower. Stop lying, please.
I'll tell you precisely where you lost me.
your statement less than one percent are made up.....
Thats a flat out lie and you know it.
Unless you are the most naive lawyer in the known solar system you know that it's far far higher than that, you may not be permitted to represent someone who you feel is guilty or lying but that doesn't entitle you to present less than 1% as a fact.
Its presented to appease your own soul knowing full well you have shafted men's lives representing a lady who is lying through her teeth.
This is why I stated you live in an ivory tower with rose coloured glasses on. I'm not a liar I'm calling you out.
People pay you to lie for them, It's what you do , some would say your a professional.
1% at a stretch and you work in the system , it's a lie and yes you have rose coloured glasses on
Then there's this too
www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/whitewashing-the-truth-of-why-men-kill-themselves-20190709-p525iu?fbclid=IwAR3-9ueUmScNZr6Av38AY5aYaav6I6uyv9bhGGc1OvO4VkZ4u-yE9xSKvFk
Select to expand quotelog man said..Razzonater said..
I'm going to provide you a few more facts Chris as to be honest your sitting in you ivory tower with your rose coloured glasses on.
women murdered by their partners in 2018 is 63 which is absolutely disgusting and a lot of lives, horrible horrible facts.
now when we look at suicide rates of males you find that it's 3 x higher than that of womens
17.8 per 100000 men or 5.8 per 100000 for women......
Australia has 25 million ( more actually) population so approx 4450 men kill themselves every year........
So whilst 68 women's life's are important and a disgraceful reflection of our society 4450 men knocking themselves off receives little outrage in comparison.......
The question to be asked is why are they knocking themselves off???
Pretty sure you already know the answer to that one Chris......
Domestic violence is the issue tho isn't it. Whether women kill their children at this rate or that or whether males have a high suicide rate are both worthy topics but different topics.......and turning it into a men are more hard done by than women argument does nothing.
Yes but that is the exact reason the DV industry says male victims should be ignored, some still say they don't exist
Select to expand quoteRazzonater said..Chris 249 said..Razzonater said..
I'm going to provide you a few more facts Chris as to be honest your sitting in you ivory tower with your rose coloured glasses on.
women murdered by their partners in 2018 is 63 which is absolutely disgusting and a lot of lives, horrible horrible facts.
now when we look at suicide rates of males you find that it's 3 x higher than that of womens
17.8 per 100000 men or 5.8 per 100000 for women......
Australia has 25 million ( more actually) population so approx 4450 men kill themselves every year........
So whilst 68 women's life's are important and a disgraceful reflection of our society 4450 men knocking themselves off receives little outrage in comparison.......
The question to be asked is why are they knocking themselves off???
Pretty sure you already know the answer to that one Chris......
"Rose coloured glasses"; no, I deal with reality and I'm not being a vile piece of lying scum like the filth here who have abused women in words (and judging from their attitude, may have abused women physically).
The fact that men kill themselves is a tragedy, but to claim that the high suicide rate is because of women is a lie.
Your dishonesty is proven by the fact that you know nothing about me, but you claim I'm sitting in an ivory tower. I've been divorced. I've recently been on suicide watch for my best mate, through his divorce. You are a liar to claim that I'm in an ivory tower. Stop lying, please.
I'll tell you precisely where you lost me.
your statement less than one percent are made up.....
Thats a flat out lie and you know it.
Unless you are the most naive lawyer in the known solar system you know that it's far far higher than that, you may not be permitted to represent someone who you feel is guilty or lying but that doesn't entitle you to present less than 1% as a fact.
Its presented to appease your own soul knowing full well you have shafted men's lives representing a lady who is lying through her teeth.
This is why I stated you live in an ivory tower with rose coloured glasses on. I'm not a liar I'm calling you out.
People pay you to lie for them, It's what you do , some would say your a professional.
1% at a stretch and you work in the system , it's a lie and yes you have rose coloured glasses on
Errrrr.......... I never claimed anything about one percent. You are thinking about stamp, another poster, who said that and clearly said it was in THEIR experience.
You got it wrong. Again. And your statement that I live in an ivory tower is a lie. It's also probably a lie if you are referring to stamp; if they are a family lawyer they have probably seen more real life than you have.
Select to expand quoteLittle Jon said..
The entire DV industry and family court industry and child protection industry is openly biased and will falsify evidence
.be&fbclid=IwAR27JtV0-vzysIAb0-7OC5F03kh4wceckI4TwwidpCxU_8NIz-Hvo19EUqQ
It's not an isolated case
towardchange.wordpress.com/2015/04/10/dozens-of-cps-caseworkers-caught-lying-falsifying-documents/?fbclid=IwAR2ezDimbqa2zRlsaHbeAPvFrr6l2HZqExm-1N8Pl2FjnQkLtL3cnBYju7E
Not a men's issue but shows the corruption in the courts
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/children-brainwash-electroshock-sell-foster-parents-italy-police-arrests-a8978891.html
Are you aware that this is an Australian website, not a US or Italian one?
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..mineral1 said..Mr Milk said..
If I assume that half of 25m people are male and all of that lot are men, then your suicide rate only gets about 2200.
The stats are 6 per day for the Australian male ongoing. We have beyond blue and a number of other self help groups. However, that number isn't reducing sadly.
If that's not a crisis, then one doesn't bloody know what is.
www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/mind/the-mens-mental-health-crisis-australia-can-no-longer-ignore-six-male-suicides-a-day/news-story/cc77b01572676c8b140424777c3ff642
That's tragic. It doesn't mean that it's because of women, which is what some people have been saying.
Correct, but the sad point is, there is a continual spot light shining on some issues such as DV, and rightly so, while other issues such as this shocking suicide rate in the male population is constantly kept in the shadows, with a smattering of minuscule media promotion.
The deaths in custody royal commission highlighted some shocking drivers of those deaths.
In retrospect, why are the media NOT making as much or more noise about this similar issue.
Is it apathy on the medias behalf? or just not bloody bothered as its not enough blood and gore
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..Little Jon said..
The entire DV industry and family court industry and child protection industry is openly biased and will falsify evidence
.be&fbclid=IwAR27JtV0-vzysIAb0-7OC5F03kh4wceckI4TwwidpCxU_8NIz-Hvo19EUqQ
It's not an isolated case
towardchange.wordpress.com/2015/04/10/dozens-of-cps-caseworkers-caught-lying-falsifying-documents/?fbclid=IwAR2ezDimbqa2zRlsaHbeAPvFrr6l2HZqExm-1N8Pl2FjnQkLtL3cnBYju7E
Not a men's issue but shows the corruption in the courts
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/children-brainwash-electroshock-sell-foster-parents-italy-police-arrests-a8978891.html
Are you aware that this is an Australian website, not a US or Italian one?
Are you aware the DV industry issues are common across the western world.
Select to expand quoteLittle Jon said..
The DV industry is plagued with fake accusations, it's a common tactic in family law and greater access gives greater child support payments and a bigger piece of the pie in dividing up the assets so there is a huge financial incentive for fake accusations. The cream on the cake is possible jail sentence, what better revenge than that!
The laws changed by Gillard do not use the criminal code standards of proof, an acquisition alone is enough.
Next is the women get free legal aid but the men don't so that's part of the reason the stats
"The laws changed by Gillard"????
Last time I looked, Julia Gillard was Prime Minister of Australia. That is a Queensland Act. Gillard did not change it.
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..Little Jon said..
The DV industry is plagued with fake accusations, it's a common tactic in family law and greater access gives greater child support payments and a bigger piece of the pie in dividing up the assets so there is a huge financial incentive for fake accusations. The cream on the cake is possible jail sentence, what better revenge than that!
The laws changed by Gillard do not use the criminal code standards of proof, an acquisition alone is enough.
Next is the women get free legal aid but the men don't so that's part of the reason the stats
"The laws changed by Gillard"????
Last time I looked, Julia Gillard was Prime Minister of Australia. That is a Queensland Act. Gillard did not change it.
It means there is more than one example of the biased law, Gillard changed national laws in 2012 outside of the criminal code
Select to expand quoteLittle Jon said..Chris 249 said..Little Jon said..
The entire DV industry and family court industry and child protection industry is openly biased and will falsify evidence
.be&fbclid=IwAR27JtV0-vzysIAb0-7OC5F03kh4wceckI4TwwidpCxU_8NIz-Hvo19EUqQ
It's not an isolated case
towardchange.wordpress.com/2015/04/10/dozens-of-cps-caseworkers-caught-lying-falsifying-documents/?fbclid=IwAR2ezDimbqa2zRlsaHbeAPvFrr6l2HZqExm-1N8Pl2FjnQkLtL3cnBYju7E
Not a men's issue but shows the corruption in the courts
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/children-brainwash-electroshock-sell-foster-parents-italy-police-arrests-a8978891.html
Are you aware that this is an Australian website, not a US or Italian one?
Are you aware the DV industry issues are common across the western world.
Are you aware that independent evidence show that women in Australia are far more likely to suffer from domestic violence and abuse?
Have you had the honesty to admit you lied in an earlier post, or are you too much of a coward to do so?
Yes, some women lie in DV allegations; a few of them. That doesn't mean that the lies you post are true. Any problems you've had are probably down to your own dishonesty.
Select to expand quoteLittle Jon said..Chris 249 said..Little Jon said..
The entire DV industry and family court industry and child protection industry is openly biased and will falsify evidence
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It's not an isolated case
towardchange.wordpress.com/2015/04/10/dozens-of-cps-caseworkers-caught-lying-falsifying-documents/?fbclid=IwAR2ezDimbqa2zRlsaHbeAPvFrr6l2HZqExm-1N8Pl2FjnQkLtL3cnBYju7E
Not a men's issue but shows the corruption in the courts
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/children-brainwash-electroshock-sell-foster-parents-italy-police-arrests-a8978891.html
Are you aware that this is an Australian website, not a US or Italian one?
Are you aware the DV industry issues are common across the western world.
Aussie examples not hard to find
www.smh.com.au/national/false-abuse-claims-are-the-new-court-weapon-retiring-judge-says-20130705-2phao.html
It's really quit immoral of you to advocate against victims justice
