Flat Earthers

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snoidberg said..

To be honest I haven't looked into flat earth much because it isn't something that affects my health or way of life. I get people sending me stuff all the time but it's not a priority for me.

Yo to back up a bit, you have people sending you stuff about flat earth all the time? Who is in your friendship circle square?

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Pcdefender said..

Rather ironic that you are presenting a commentary within a meme when you get most of your "research" presented to you in a meme as well.

Of course, you didn't even write this one, which makes it even funnier.

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D3 said..


Please do your research and explain to me why on a clear day, using binoculars, I can clearly see the superstructure and masts of a frigate that my radar states is 8 miles away but at 6 miles I can see the waterline without vessel appreciably increasing in size.

So if you are correct and the frigate is travelling over a curve as you seem to be inferring then why do we not see the curve looking left to right across the horizon?

To answer your question - go to a corridor at night with lights on and look at the lights at the far end.

They will appear lower than the ones next to you. SFA to do with going over a curve i can assure you

I suggest you have not looked at the opposing evidence via FE docos so until such time i will be answering no more questions from those too lazy or stuck in their heliocentric religion

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Pcdefender said..

D3 said..


Please do your research and explain to me why on a clear day, using binoculars, I can clearly see the superstructure and masts of a frigate that my radar states is 8 miles away but at 6 miles I can see the waterline without vessel appreciably increasing in size.

So if you are correct and the frigate is travelling over a curve as you seem to be inferring then why do we not see the curve looking left to right across the horizon?

To answer your question - go to a corridor at night with lights on and look at the lights at the far end.

They will appear lower than the ones next to you. SFA to do with going over a curve i can assure you

I suggest you have not looked at the opposing evidence via FE docos so until such time i will be answering no more questions from those too lazy or stuck in their heliocentric religion

A non answer.

It's going to hard to have discussion in good faith with you, isn't it?

I am asking why something disappears as if it is behind something, from the bottom up, once it reaches a certain distance, on a clear day, with unobstructed view.

And your answer is that everything further away looks smaller due to angular size. Therefore, if I can see any part of the vessel, I should be able to see the rest of it at the same scale.

But that is not the case, I could make out individual parts of the vessel, but couldn't see the hull. I could even make out small trees on the shore behind, but I couldn't actually make out the beach.

So I would like an explanation from you that actually explains what is going on, please.

I will endeavour to check out a few FE docos in addition to Behind the Curve. Do you have any recommendations? Are there any that you would suggest avoiding?


Out of curiosity, I wonder if you could enlighten us as to which particular FE model you prefer?
I've come across a few different ones, but none have managed to explain what I can observe in a cohesive manner yet

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Pcdefender said..

D3 said..


I will endeavour to check out a few FE docos in addition to Behind the Curve. Do you have any recommendations? Are there any that you would suggest avoiding?

From around 55 minutes is good.

Jan '16 - The FLAT EARTH LIVE!! [Lancashire, England @ New Horizons] - YouTube


Flat Earth Glasgow university Interviews Pt 1 - YouTube

Cheers

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D3 said..
Not going well so far,
17 minutes in is a particular highlight so far.

He's just asked the audience why no one has ever taken a photograph of the solar system, from a point in space outside the solar system

I'm already questioning so much. especially this blokes understanding of scale

Scale... you mean like, lights at the end of a corridor vs horizon distance for an average height person of 4,800 metres away?

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Pcdefender said..

D3 said..
Not going well so far,
17 minutes in is a particular highlight so far.

He's just asked the audience why no one has ever taken a photograph of the solar system, from a point in space outside the solar system

I'm already questioning so much. especially this blokes understanding of scale


-19 minutes he says the concave earth model doesn't work for the opposite reason that a globe arth doesn't work, if you're looking into the distance then you would see much further as the earth curves up in your view.
ergo- he is saying that on a globe earth, the earth curves down away from your view and you can't see very far.

Watch until the end then and only then get back to us

Nah, here's another good one.

47 minutes - why do rockets launch in a curve? Why don't they find the ideal location on earth to launch straight up to their destination?
Because if they went straight up, they'd fall straight down once the thrusters shut down. To maintain an orbit, they need to travelling over 17,000 mph around the earth, it's more efficient to get started on this on the way up.

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D3 said..

- why do rockets launch in a curve? Why don't they find the ideal location on earth to launch straight up to their destination?

Because if they went straight up, they'd fall straight down once the thrusters shut down. To maintain an orbit, they need to travelling over 17,000 mph around the earth, it's more efficient to get started on this on the way up.

No. They'd hit the dome if they didn't flatten out their trajectory. Nobody knows what would happen if the dome lost its integrity and only a fool would take the risk of finding out

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chunder said.. >>>>I can't figure out if you're a master troll or if you believe there's a dome over the earth?

Have you heard of sarcasm?

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remery said..

D3 said..
Not going well so far,
17 minutes in is a particular highlight so far.

He's just asked the audience why no one has ever taken a photograph of the solar system, from a point in space outside the solar system

I'm already questioning so much. especially this blokes understanding of scale

Scale... you mean like, lights at the end of a corridor vs horizon distance for an average height person of 4,800 metres away?

Don't you guys find that when you look at lights down a corridor that the shoes and knees of the other person at the other end, start to disappear? No? Must be my corridor. Is it faulty?

I have to admit, it is sort of fun watching this 'banging your head against a brick wall' that a few of us have witnessed before, and seeing the attempts at logic which just fall flat.

I noticed over in the 'funny images' that another meme about the US Federal Reserve has shown up. I think that shows us how some of us get their information. Who here in Aus cares about the US Federal Reserve? I guess if you get fed stuff you can not filter.

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remery said..
If the Earth is flat, why did the spend all that money building lighthouses so high?

They are disguised 5G towers in order to control the masses?

Oh, are you wondering why we cannot see all of the lighthouses everywhere at night, or even the lights from other countries? I think the answer is 'perspective'. Have you ever looked down a really long hallway and noticed that the lights are lower. Please note, a 6 metre long hallway is not long enough.

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chunder said..

Mr Milk said..


No. They'd hit the dome if they didn't flatten out their trajectory. Nobody knows what would happen if the dome lost its integrity and only a fool would take the risk of finding out

I can't figure out if you're a master troll or if you believe there's a dome over the earth?

Be-jeezus, and I thought PM33 was dumb.


Why, if all things that are far away from you appear lower down, like lights at the end of the corridor and ships out to sea, then how come things on the dome are up overhead ?

The dome would be as far away as you can see, and therefore why isn't everything on it at same level as your feet ?

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Pcdefender said..

D3 said..
Not going well so far,
17 minutes in is a particular highlight so far.

He's just asked the audience why no one has ever taken a photograph of the solar system, from a point in space outside the solar system

I'm already questioning so much. especially this blokes understanding of scale


-19 minutes he says the concave earth model doesn't work for the opposite reason that a globe arth doesn't work, if you're looking into the distance then you would see much further as the earth curves up in your view.
ergo- he is saying that on a globe earth, the earth curves down away from your view and you can't see very far.

Watch until the end then and only then get back to us

Ok, I watched it. All the way through as requested.

I'm guessing you rate this guys presentation quite highly?
Otherwise you wouldn't have recommended it.

Question- which is a better way of figuring out how explain what you observe about the world around you?
1- Have a belief that one explanation exists and then choose evidence that matches it.

2- Make observations and gather evidence then develop up a model that best explains all the evidence.

Because one of those was consistently evident throughout the presentation.

Can our resident extra terrestrial weigh in with an objective point of view?
Maybe he could have a look at the underside of the disc and check that the framing hasn't sagged a bit. It wouldn't take a whole lot of distortion due to all the weight of Earth on top to produce the illusion of ships dropping below the horizon as they go away from the coast.