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HD GoPro

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Created by firiebob > 9 months ago, 3 Dec 2009
showpony
WA, 33 posts
26 Dec 2009 10:37PM
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I tried my brandnew HD GoPro today with a 16Gb Lexar card and I have lots of trouble with accessing and transferring files. Guess I'll need to try one of the recommended cards. Where can I get a (cheap) Kingston card in Perth ?

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
26 Dec 2009 11:12PM
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showpony said...

I tried my brandnew HD GoPro today with a 16Gb Lexar card and I have lots of trouble with accessing and transferring files. Guess I'll need to try one of the recommended cards. Where can I get a (cheap) Kingston card in Perth ?


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/KINGSTON-16GB-HIGH-SPEED-100X-SDHC-SD-MEMORY-CARD_W0QQitemZ360219979241QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Electronics_Memory_Cards?hash=item53dec8ade9#ht_5592wt_939

Chipmunk
33 posts
27 Dec 2009 8:20AM
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Thank's BOB
Have a look at the facebook link (Mike P)
Video that works but you will have to convert the MP4 to AVI files

Not the solution but it works on power director & win. movie maker
www.facebook.com/gopro

Cards that don't work:
www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=50043151918&topic=11792
Cards that work
www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=50043151918&topic=11791

Hope this is OK BoB and Helps

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
27 Dec 2009 1:42PM
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Chipmunk said...

Thank's BOB
Have a look at the facebook link (Mike P)
Video that works but you will have to convert the MP4 to AVI files

Not the solution but it works on power director & win. movie maker
www.facebook.com/gopro

Cards that don't work:
www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=50043151918&topic=11792
Cards that work
www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=50043151918&topic=11791

Hope this is OK BoB and Helps


Thanks, just had a look and some interesting info. I have downloaded MPEG Streamclip www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-win.html I'll have a play when I get the chance, with luck I'll then be able to use VideoStudio

Scope
65 posts
27 Dec 2009 7:55PM
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Hi Bob,
Having had the Hero wide for 9 months the HD was a must. I have had it about a month now.
I have had no problems with an Adata 32GB turbo class 6 SDHC card on all the settings. The FB Gopro page has been a very useful info source also.

I also use Adobe Premier Elements 4 to edit which came bundled on my Sony. It takes the mp4 files directly without conversion. I too have not figured out why I can playback the raw video(mp4) data perfectly in a video player such as VLC but it is jerky as soon as I put it in Elements when editing. I did change the preferences in Elements to an HD 720 setting, it is better but not perfect so if anyone out there etc etc.



A friend in Wgtn just sent me a last years Macbook Pro to trial for a month. imovie has no issues at all with full hd, smooth as silk and pretty smart editing software. That may well be the answer, for me anyway

Chipmunk
33 posts
30 Dec 2009 3:03AM
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Eureka video software that works with the HD running Vista
Cyber Link Power Director Ultra V8

This was taken on the wide angle older model at the European Speed Championships Dungarvan, Ireland Rider Dave Williams The Accident was 2 days before setting the fastest speed 44.19 knots this was edited with Power Director V5


www.gps-kitesurfing.com/default.aspx Kite speed
www.gps-speedsurfing.com/default.aspx Windsurfing

jcobill
WA, 13 posts
2 Jan 2010 3:46PM
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I have been using a MAXFLASH SD 6 HC 16GB card and have 100% results!! just got to the bottom of the condensation thing and all is good , quality of reproduction is unreal!!!!

jcobill
WA, 13 posts
2 Jan 2010 3:47PM
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also imovie works really well with it too!!

Reflex Films
WA, 1446 posts
2 Jan 2010 5:06PM
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here is some freestyle windsurfing shot at Pelican Point (Perth - WA) - using the cam in 720p / 60 fps mode - no fancy mounts this time - just using it as a point and shoot.


http://exposureroom.com/e4794f6e935f4ea382d0e5e163f38178/

KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
2 Jan 2010 10:54PM
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apparently I need to send mine back to gopro in California.

It will occasionally record video up to about 3 mins then stop. I have tried formating the kingston card 16gb in 64kb, 32 kn and 8958k or whatever.

Still no luck. Takes great photos thou. Really makes you a super hero ay!

Really like the thing thou so hopefully they'll send me another one that works. Sh1t happens.

Anyone got any ideas on formating the cards? Any tricks before I send it off?

westozwind
WA, 1395 posts
2 Jan 2010 9:19PM
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I had the same problem with a 4Gb Kingston card. This card works fine the the original GoPro wide.
Sandisk 16Gb Class 4 card works a treat

AquaPlow
QLD, 1051 posts
4 Jan 2010 12:02AM
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My kids (count me in here) like playing in the sea...
To not miss it all I bought an Olympus 1030 sw.
(10metres depth rated - will damage your toe before it stops working if you drop it etc -) their TOUGH model. but $500+ it & its cousin are dead in a year (more in section at end).

So GoPro looks tough - sounds tough - how does it work in action ??....
The big problem I found for water based action shots was getting close enough as the zoom on the Olympus is not upto much. I took all the photos manually and when not in use had camera tucked into top of wettie to leave my hands free.
- I have not read of focus option with GoPro - Does it??
- At what sort of distance can you get a good shot - say of my kid surfing a wave? As a reference would 30m be too far for good definition / facial expression?
- Is it fiddly to grab and shoot (i.e. to catch an action shot)? -- or is it mostly intended to be attached to something and used in set & forget mode (video or timed shots)?
- Does the basic case offer waterproofing too or does this come with the polycarbonate...outer case?

Any in-use comments appreciated...
Thanks (& top of the N/Year 2 Uall


History of meu1030 SW tough chunk of junk.
First one battery leaked - but until then took great pic's (2-3 months)
(by this I mean for a basic lense (-ve) with 10Mpix sensor (+ve) approx 1 in 3-4 were ok).

Warranty replaced this - Replacement one has been average from day 1 - poorer lense setup / focus / sensor calibration(??) not sure - but lower quality piks. About 6 -7 mths old started glitching and now in under a year - it is dead (seals failed - I assume as piks appeared misty(!!) - then battery release didn't - and finally signs of corrosion on memory card connector ).

This style of camera is a great idea but not really intended for 90+ % use in the beach / surf zone - despite spending all its "wet time" behind my shoulder under my wetsuit (i.e. protected) when not in-use.

So around $500/year for water based snaps.(Jan not happy ).. A GoPro must be tougher???

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
4 Jan 2010 8:34PM
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Hi Rick,

The GoPro doesn't zoom, it's very wide angle and fixed, someone 30M away would be too far away.
Not designed to grab and shoot, as you said mount and shoot.
They use an outer case, waterproof to 60M for the Hi Deff version and 30M for the S Deff. gopro.com/en/au/

Maybe a Canon P&S with a Canon waterproof housing ? I have a very old 2M Olympus like this and use for free diving.

Or as I also have, a cheap 12x zoom Panasonic or equivalent, not perfect but zooms to the 35mm equivalent of 420mm, don't have to go near the water.


firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
4 Jan 2010 9:16PM
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No wind here so I lost interest and the camera's been gathering dust

This is what works for me, I import the GoPro MPEG-4 file into MPEG Streamclip (free) and output it as a MPEG-4 file using H.264 compression and unscaled 1280x720. This file will then open in VideoStudio with no problems. Now I don't really know what I'm doing but it works I persisted with videostudeo because that's what I'm used to, the others either wouldn't accept the file or didn't like working with it but I didn't trial pro software. My test video's have just been the camera sitting on a table but as soon as there is wind I'll have a proper go.

Chipmunk thanks the GoPro FB is very interesting.

Hey Scope I've checked a few of your You Tube vids, well done.

And Matt great PP vid, I'm looking forward to trying the slo mo.

Cheers Bob.

Roberta
3 posts
5 Jan 2010 11:43AM
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Hi Guys, I tried my Gopro for the first time and I am having problems with the 720/60 mode. It seems that I have the same problem as many others have with the memory card. I choosed a class 6 highspeed sdhc from HAMA to be on the save side but it is only recording 50mb in 720/60 then it stops.
Which cards are save? I just want to be sure when I go to buy one that it really works fine in 720/60.
Good wind to you all!
Roberta

BundyBear
NSW, 325 posts
5 Jan 2010 4:45PM
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Hi all I have been using a 16gb Sandick extreme with my gopro and have had no dramas with it, all my shooting has been done in 1080p mode
For editing i use Premiere elements 8, it is slow and difficult to use, i also found a nice cheap downloadable program called avs video editor which does most things elements does only faster
www.avs4you.com/
the attatched video is only a 150mb wmv file, when i encoded it to 600mb avi it looked a lot better

sup it
12 posts
6 Jan 2010 2:36AM
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Hello everybody,

Transcend 8Gb and 32Gb class 6 don't work with my new HD Hero. Damn, I bought the latter right for the GoPro since I knew nothing about these compatibility issues. Hope that a firmware update will fix this problem soon. Transcend cards are among the best ...
In the meanwhile I'm using a brand X SDHC 8Gb card class 4 that works damn fine. I took the very first video with the GoPro HD on last Sunday and published it on our Italian SUP Portal.
Check it out at the following address:



Notice that the first half (more or less) was taken with the Standard GoPro though.

Enjoy the ride,
Marco



Roberta
3 posts
8 Jan 2010 11:19AM
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Hi Guys,
My Gopro is now working fine after I invested another 29 Dollars in a Skandisk Extreme II 4gb. Gopro has answered also to my email and said that they use kinston and that you should stick to brand sd cards class 4 (mine was a Hama class 6 but, whatever)
Good wind!
Roberta

Fooosh
WA, 563 posts
13 Jan 2010 10:36PM
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firiebob said...

showpony said...

I tried my brandnew HD GoPro today with a 16Gb Lexar card and I have lots of trouble with accessing and transferring files. Guess I'll need to try one of the recommended cards. Where can I get a (cheap) Kingston card in Perth ?


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/KINGSTON-16GB-HIGH-SPEED-100X-SDHC-SD-MEMORY-CARD_W0QQitemZ360219979241QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Electronics_Memory_Cards?hash=item53dec8ade9#ht_5592wt_939




People... don't judge a memory card by its cover.

Most 'cheap' cards from ebay, especially from the orient, are fake (even with 'Guaranteed Original' Sandisk / Kingston other brand name).

You can get some reasonable deals from reputable shops in Oz.

Either way, you can test your cards - most cheapos will not take the full capacity (try saving several large files on to it). The file table has been doctored to pretend that the card has a higher capacity.

What also happens is it will take forever to read or write multiple files. This could also be contributing to your malfunctions. (But yes, some original cards may not be compatible).

This info is mirrored on some of the review / info articles on ebay.

Hope this helps

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
13 Jan 2010 11:05PM
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Fooosh said...

firiebob said...

showpony said...

I tried my brandnew HD GoPro today with a 16Gb Lexar card and I have lots of trouble with accessing and transferring files. Guess I'll need to try one of the recommended cards. Where can I get a (cheap) Kingston card in Perth ?


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/KINGSTON-16GB-HIGH-SPEED-100X-SDHC-SD-MEMORY-CARD_W0QQitemZ360219979241QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Electronics_Memory_Cards?hash=item53dec8ade9#ht_5592wt_939




People... don't judge a memory card by its cover.

Most 'cheap' cards from ebay, especially from the orient, are fake (even with 'Guaranteed Original' Sandisk / Kingston other brand name).

You can get some reasonable deals from reputable shops in Oz.

Either way, you can test your cards - most cheapos will not take the full capacity (try saving several large files on to it). The file table has been doctored to pretend that the card has a higher capacity.

What also happens is it will take forever to read or write multiple files. This could also be contributing to your malfunctions. (But yes, some original cards may not be compatible).

This info is mirrored on some of the review / info articles on ebay.

Hope this helps


Everything you said is right and good advise But that link is to an Assie ebayer in NSW with 99.9 positive feedback and who I got my card from which is working a dream Having said that if anyone is ordering a new HD GoPro they can now also supply cards, too easy

evets
WA, 685 posts
14 Jan 2010 10:08PM
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Firie, I had not read this threead before, now I see the problems you have had with the gopro I realise how satisfying the vid you posted on the Futura must be. Glad to see you have finally got it working well.

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
14 Jan 2010 11:02PM
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evets said...

Firie, I had not read this threead before, now I see the problems you have had with the gopro I realise how satisfying the vid you posted on the Futura must be. Glad to see you have finally got it working well.


Thanks Steve, C U Feb

Fooosh
WA, 563 posts
22 Jan 2010 8:57AM
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firiebob said...




Everything you said is right and good advise But that link is to an Assie ebayer in NSW with 99.9 positive feedback and who I got my card from which is working a dream Having said that if anyone is ordering a new HD GoPro they can now also supply cards, too easy




Cheers for that Firiebob! I admit I didn't follow the link. I have got some genuine cards on ebay - as I said, reputable Aussie shops for me.

Still, check the reasons for the 0.1% negative feedback too - most bogus stores still have high feedback ratings because of most punters being unaware before posting feedback that the cards are fake / smaller capacity / don't work.

If you want a store with people and a front, try austin.net.au and netplus.com.au to name a couple in Perth. You may get some good deals. I'm picking up a 16GB Kingston Class 4 for $45 today - it is the same card sold via the gopro.com website so I'm assuming it'll work. (If not, you'll hear back from me!!)

Have fun people and I look forward to more footage out on the water!!

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
22 Jan 2010 9:20AM
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Hi Fooosh, I have the 16GB Kingston Class 4 and it works a treat so you'll good your's is cheaper

I posted somewhere else that I converted a file down to DVD quality and burnt to a disc to see how it would look, looks awesome on the big screen

choco
SA, 4032 posts
22 Jan 2010 8:13PM
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first attempt with the GoProHD i accidently knocked the camera with my sail and it was pointing abit too high but gave me a chance to play around with Roxio creator 2010,Firie right at the end is how a jibe should be performed(21.79Alpha in bugger all wind)
setting 720p
2 gig Kinston card...my 8 g card was a dud so they are sending another one.

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
22 Jan 2010 6:47PM
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choco said...

first attempt with the GoProHD i accidently knocked the camera with my sail and it was pointing abit too high but gave me a chance to play around with Roxio creator 2010,Firie right at the end is how a jibe should be performed(21.79Alpha in bugger all wind)
setting 720p
2 gig Kinston card...my 8 g card was a dud so they are sending another one.



It's not set up right mate, I can't see ya nose hairs

Fooosh
WA, 563 posts
23 Jan 2010 12:44PM
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firiebob said...

Hi Fooosh, I have the 16GB Kingston Class 4 and it works a treat so you'll good your's is cheaper

I posted somewhere else that I converted a file down to DVD quality and burnt to a disc to see how it would look, looks awesome on the big screen


I've tried it for the first time y/d. Video recording stops at 3.84GB. The card is not full and the battery not dead. Tested a couple more times at home (all on highest HD setting). All stop at that file size. (Reformatting the card doesn't help)

Have emailed GoPro but they have a 3 day turnaround and it's the weekend and I'm leaving on Mon for a trip so any suggestions most welcome here!!

Mount needs screwing really tight with a screwdriver or the camera changes angle.

Otherwise all good!!

PS: firiebob, ya can't get hung up about memory cards being cheaper later!! It's the law of computerland. I was just reading the lifetime guarnatee and it said they'll refund the purchase price.. In 40 years (if I live that long), that should buy me a new 160GB SD card!!! I can't wait

Fooosh
WA, 563 posts
23 Jan 2010 1:01PM
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Skimnur said...

I got my go pro the other day and used my card from my other camera which is a scan disk ultra ll class 4 16gb and it works fine. It will record for as long as the battery last making movie files just under 4gb each which is around 42mins a clip on the highest setting r5.


Think Skimnur is having the same problem as me but doesn't realise it. The battery lasts 2h15min (135min) which is three times the length of what he's recording.

It's stopping because there's a bug. I can't find a setting. I suspect it's a maximum file size issue.

Anyone??

Haircut
QLD, 6481 posts
24 Jan 2010 1:16PM
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i haven't read the full thread, but;

any chance you guys are using class 2 memory cards? Class 2 cards are cheeeeap, so if you got a card at what seems like a bargain price that might be what you got. I think they might be on the threshold of being too slow for the gopros h264 transfer rate. Class 6 cards would be no probs

any chance you guys are using cards formatted with Fat32 filesystem? if you are not already aware, it has a 4gig filesize limit

does the gopro HD support EXT2, EXT3, NTFS or HFS+ ? If so it might be worth trying this instead to get around the 4gig limit

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
24 Jan 2010 11:19AM
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Fooosh said...

Skimnur said...

I got my go pro the other day and used my card from my other camera which is a scan disk ultra ll class 4 16gb and it works fine. It will record for as long as the battery last making movie files just under 4gb each which is around 42mins a clip on the highest setting r5.


Think Skimnur is having the same problem as me but doesn't realise it. The battery lasts 2h15min (135min) which is three times the length of what he's recording.

It's stopping because there's a bug. I can't find a setting. I suspect it's a maximum file size issue.

Anyone??


Yep it is a max file issue due to the fat 32 file system I believe, it will just keep recording but makes more than one file as it goes. If I'm wrong can someone chime in



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