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Hockey stick Mann loses climate denier court case

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Created by FlySurfer > 9 months ago, 28 Aug 2019
FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
28 Aug 2019 1:42PM
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www.wnd.com/2019/08/court-rules-against-hockey-stick-climate-change-graf-creator/
The dude invented the hockey stick chart you were all sold.

boofta
NSW, 179 posts
28 Aug 2019 2:26PM
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Sold and swallowed by every hysterical greeny on the planet.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
28 Aug 2019 2:37PM
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Well that settles it then........it's a huge fraud

Rango
WA, 697 posts
28 Aug 2019 12:46PM
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Pretty hard to erase history.

Pugwash
WA, 7671 posts
28 Aug 2019 12:57PM
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boofta said..
Sold and swallowed by every hysterical greeny on the planet.


Picked it like a nose:

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log man said..
Well that settles it then........it's a huge fraud


BTW - climate change is real.

Mark _australia
WA, 22378 posts
28 Aug 2019 5:07PM
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log man said..
Well that settles it then........it's a huge fraud


No of course climate change is real.

But if I asserted that graph was wrong a couple of months ago you've have laughed at me and labeled me all kinds of stuff.
See its not s simple as blindly following an ideology.

And you still poke fun at those who are even just moderately slightly to the "other side" than you






Shifu
QLD, 1953 posts
28 Aug 2019 7:16PM
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log man said..
Well that settles it then........it's a huge fraud


All Labor's fault...

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
28 Aug 2019 7:42PM
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I noticed last month it was really cold,
This month has been a lot warmer,
climate has changed

But yes, climate change is real. Time to stop digging big holes in the ground,look to alternatives and stop farting.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
28 Aug 2019 8:12PM
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No that's simply not what it means. It's a libel case, and even if it wasn't, science is not decided in a court room.

If anyone needs to be in court, it's that douchebag Cook and his bullcrap 97%.

kk
WA, 947 posts
28 Aug 2019 7:47PM
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When the pollies and the activist start to address the real problem, population growth, then I will sit up and listen.

But for now they are still flying around to meetings and talking about population doubling in the next 50 years as though that's fine, and then buying beach front property.

Someone is telling lies I think.

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
28 Aug 2019 8:36PM
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The population of the West is clearly falling and by a lot too.

Look at the population of Australia,UK,N.Z,U.S and Canada as examples.

Were it not for the mass influx of immigrants their population would have nose dived significantly.

How anyone can buy this population increase theory when most are tending to have fewer kids and for many not at all.

The population of the poorer countries may well lead to an overall increase but the population of the Western countries in real terms is falling at an alarming rate.

Japan with little immigration is projected to half its population in the not too distant future.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
28 Aug 2019 11:03PM
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97 percent of scientists agree but Fred Nurk on seabreeze disagrees!!!

amirite
350 posts
28 Aug 2019 9:05PM
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not sure if for population growth
or apocalypse

eppo
WA, 9503 posts
28 Aug 2019 9:20PM
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Woh boys heavy weather has a slight creep out of its box here ...

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
29 Aug 2019 12:53AM
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Hahaha, yes, let the lawyers decide if climate change is real or not.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
29 Aug 2019 10:13AM
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log man said..
97 percent of scientists agree but Fred Nurk on seabreeze disagrees!!!


No, they don't. Like you, Cook misrepresented the data to drive the narrative.

I thought you were all about the cold hard science?

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
29 Aug 2019 12:01PM
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Kamikuza said..

log man said..
97 percent of scientists agree but Fred Nurk on seabreeze disagrees!!!



No, they don't. Like you, Cook misrepresented the data to drive the narrative.

I thought you were all about the cold hard science?


What did he do?

Mr Milk
NSW, 2990 posts
29 Aug 2019 12:41PM
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Kamikuza said..


log man said..
97 percent of scientists agree but Fred Nurk on seabreeze disagrees!!!




No, they don't. Like you, Cook misrepresented the data to drive the narrative.

I thought you were all about the cold hard science?



So what is the "exact" figure? 95%? 90%?
The people who like to claim that there is significant dissent also like to claim that the electorate has given their side an overwhelming mandate to do whatever it likes if they manage to win an election 52 to 48.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
29 Aug 2019 1:21PM
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Mr Milk said..


Kamikuza said..




log man said..
97 percent of scientists agree but Fred Nurk on seabreeze disagrees!!!






No, they don't. Like you, Cook misrepresented the data to drive the narrative.

I thought you were all about the cold hard science?





So what is the "exact" figure? 95%? 90%?
The people who like to claim that there is significant dissent also like to claim that the electorate has given their side an overwhelming mandate to do whatever it likes if they manage to win an election 52 to 48.



Not what I'm claiming. The exact figure is not the point.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
29 Aug 2019 1:22PM
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log man said..


Kamikuza said..



log man said..
97 percent of scientists agree but Fred Nurk on seabreeze disagrees!!!





No, they don't. Like you, Cook misrepresented the data to drive the narrative.

I thought you were all about the cold hard science?




What did he do?



You gotta lay off the pipe, this has been gone through just recently.

Rango
WA, 697 posts
29 Aug 2019 1:01PM
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They will make a movie out of this one day.But which hypocrytical Hollywood star will play Micheal Mann?

Poida
WA, 1916 posts
29 Aug 2019 1:05PM
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I like reading the comments, they are comical
here is one of the special comments

"The climate change hoax is pushed only by haters of God. Later when they are enjoying their special place God prepared for them, Christians will be treated to a new, rebuilt world without the haters in it.
from someone#"

Poida
WA, 1916 posts
29 Aug 2019 1:16PM
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petermac33 said..
The population of the West is clearly falling and by a lot too.

Look at the population of Australia,UK,N.Z,U.S and Canada as examples.

Were it not for the mass influx of immigrants their population would have nose dived significantly.

How anyone can buy this population increase theory when most are tending to have fewer kids and for many not at all.

The population of the poorer countries may well lead to an overall increase but the population of the Western countries in real terms is falling at an alarming rate.

Japan with little immigration is projected to half its population in the not too distant future.


you may have misjudged the population increases of asia, india, South America and Africa and the future increase projected

An example of the problems would be once india is not a pleasant place to live due to the human activities thrashing the environment the more well off Indians will shift to Australia.

Why does China need to buy up parts of Australian agricultural land to feed themselves?

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
29 Aug 2019 4:28PM
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Why does China need to buy up parts of Australian agricultural land to feed themselves?


Because it's cheaper and more politically expedient than a military invasion.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
29 Aug 2019 4:33PM
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petermac33 said..
The population of the West is clearly falling and by a lot too.

Look at the population of Australia,UK,N.Z,U.S and Canada as examples.

Were it not for the mass influx of immigrants their population would have nose dived significantly.

How anyone can buy this population increase theory when most are tending to have fewer kids and for many not at all.

The population of the poorer countries may well lead to an overall increase but the population of the Western countries in real terms is falling at an alarming rate.

Japan with little immigration is projected to half its population in the not too distant future.


Japan has never had much immigration, the decline in birth rates is the issue.

Poida
WA, 1916 posts
29 Aug 2019 6:34PM
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Kamikuza said..

Why does China need to buy up parts of Australian agricultural land to feed themselves?



Because it's cheaper and more politically expedient than a military invasion.


And over population exceeding what food they can produce

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
29 Aug 2019 10:09PM
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Kamikuza said..

Mr Milk said..



Kamikuza said..





log man said..
97 percent of scientists agree but Fred Nurk on seabreeze disagrees!!!







No, they don't. Like you, Cook misrepresented the data to drive the narrative.

I thought you were all about the cold hard science?






So what is the "exact" figure? 95%? 90%?
The people who like to claim that there is significant dissent also like to claim that the electorate has given their side an overwhelming mandate to do whatever it likes if they manage to win an election 52 to 48.




Not what I'm claiming. The exact figure is not the point.


99.4 is the latest........it's gone up!!!

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
29 Aug 2019 11:22PM
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log man said..
99.4 is the latest........it's gone up!!!



Oh cool. I'll just take your word for it. That's how science works after all and we all know how much the left loves science

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
30 Aug 2019 10:11AM
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Kamikuza said..

log man said..
99.4 is the latest........it's gone up!!!




Oh cool. I'll just take your word for it. That's how science works after all and we all know how much the left loves science


Here you go

www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/may/03/is-the-climate-consensus-97-999-or-is-plate-tectonics-a-hoax

Seems like the douchebag Cook was right on the money

Tamble
194 posts
30 Aug 2019 12:16PM
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OK, this a is a dangerous area to comment on and I generally don't.
But in a world where simply suggesting that the climate change models might be over-skinning the cat will get you sacked from your university and the hope of getting funding for a contrarian paper let alone published in a peer reviewed journal when all the reviewers are relying on grants that make it necessary to come up with headline worthy disaster outcomes is zilch, maybe a review of published papers isn't the way to find out what most scientists actually think.

You could just ask them (probably preferably anomalously; but I don't know).
The guy who did ( A Survey of American Meteorological Society Professional Members) came up with 52%
journals.ametsoc.org/action/cookieAbsent

japie
NSW, 6868 posts
30 Aug 2019 2:50PM
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Tamble said..
OK, this a is a dangerous area to comment on and I generally don't.
But in a world where simply suggesting that the climate change models might be over-skinning the cat will get you sacked from your university and the hope of getting funding for a contrarian paper let alone published in a peer reviewed journal when all the reviewers are relying on grants that make it necessary to come up with headline worthy disaster outcomes is zilch, maybe a review of published papers isn't the way to find out what most scientists actually think.

You could just ask them (probably preferably anomalously; but I don't know).
The guy who did ( A Survey of American Meteorological Society Professional Members) came up with 52%
journals.ametsoc.org/action/cookieAbsent


That publication contains more than three sentences.

The site rules state that arguments should be proved in three. Any argument which contains more is invalid.

You should be imprisoned for disseminating that stuff anyhow. If Loggy and his mates get their way you probably will be.



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