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Japan Earthquake and Tsunami

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Created by Elroy Jetson > 9 months ago, 11 Mar 2011
Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
14 Mar 2011 9:12AM
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cwamit
WA, 1194 posts
14 Mar 2011 8:54AM
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NotWal said...

Gizmo said...

Anyone wish to start a discussion on nuclear power for Australia?


I find it hard to believe that in this day and age people would build a nuclear power station that depends on an active power supply for safety. It strikes me as stupid.



its a 40 year old power plant that was going to be retired, new designs use passive cooling method , no need for a back up power supply to safely cool down the core.

the media have been using the word meltdown, well meltdown to most people represent massive explosion resulting in wide area of nuclear contamination, likes of Chernobyl , this is impossible to happen with the design of this plant.

if anyone wants to be educated a little instead of reading the sensationalizing of the media here is some links to read

www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704893604576198421680697248

and

morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors/



UP
WA, 69 posts
14 Mar 2011 10:20AM
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Too early?

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
14 Mar 2011 11:38AM
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cwamit said...

NotWal said...

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Gizmo said...

Anyone wish to start a discussion on nuclear power for Australia?


I find it hard to believe that in this day and age people would build a nuclear power station that depends on an active power supply for safety. It strikes me as stupid.



its a 40 year old power plant that was going to be retired, new designs use passive cooling method , no need for a back up power supply to safely cool down the core.

Yes rite "was going to be retired" maybe... some time.... mmmmmmmmmm still making money of it..... lets wait a litle bit longer.....
How many of those 40 yo plants we are going to retire some time are still in service around the world????? the fact is that now the Jap one has been retired BIG time!

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
14 Mar 2011 11:42AM
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Macroscien said...


Not sure if that is true but I heard from my friend that tsunami was act of revenge.
All whales from around that world conglomerate around Japanese Island and given time synchronized jumped above the water to cause this enormous splash.
Don't know, but arrogance against nature could be harmful.



yes! and from an authorized source I have been told that all the dolphin that escaped the annual massacre in that ( what ever the name is) little coastal village joined with the whales, actually is that village still standing?????[}:)][}:)]

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Mar 2011 11:58AM
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felixdcat said...

Macroscien said...


Not sure if that is true but I heard from my friend that tsunami was act of revenge.
All whales from around that world conglomerate around Japanese Island and given time synchronized jumped above the water to cause this enormous splash.
Don't know, but arrogance against nature could be harmful.



yes! and from an authorized source I have been told that all the dolphin that escaped the annual massacre in that ( what ever the name is) little coastal village joined with the whales, actually is that village still standing?????[}:)][}:)]


Taiji, Japan

Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
14 Mar 2011 2:45PM
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felixdcat said...
Yes rite "was going to be retired" maybe... some time.... mmmmmmmmmm still making money of it..... lets wait a litle bit longer.....
How many of those 40 yo plants we are going to retire some time are still in service around the world????? the fact is that now the Jap one has been retired BIG time!


Hows the 40y.o infrastructure in your area? I know in my area the roads, hospitals, schools, water and sewage systems etc., are a long way from peek condition.
And just for interest where would Nuclear power stations be placed in Australia if we went down that path?.... Here is some interesting site analysis.
https://www.tai.org.au/file.php?file=web_papers/WP96.pdf

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
14 Mar 2011 12:26PM
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Gizmo said...

felixdcat said...
Yes rite "was going to be retired" maybe... some time.... mmmmmmmmmm still making money of it..... lets wait a litle bit longer.....
How many of those 40 yo plants we are going to retire some time are still in service around the world????? the fact is that now the Jap one has been retired BIG time!


Hows the 40y.o infrastructure in your area? I know in my area the roads, hospitals, schools, water and sewage systems etc., are a long way from peek condition.
And just for interest where would Nuclear power stations be placed in Australia if we went down that path?.... Here is some interesting site analysis.
https://www.tai.org.au/file.php?file=web_papers/WP96.pdf



Agree with you... but 2 wrongs do not make 1 rite! I wish my tax payer money was better spent! have we our priorities rite??? ask my next door neigbor on a single old age pensio!!!

oliver
3952 posts
14 Mar 2011 1:07PM
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doggie said...

Oliver = 8==D


Doggie = Chode

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Mar 2011 1:40PM
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oliver said...

doggie said...

Oliver = 8==D


Doggie = Chode


Haha, took two days to work that one out eh

oliver
3952 posts
14 Mar 2011 1:45PM
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One day feeling like crap, the other feeling sheepish. Today is a whole new day.

What happened to all my posts?

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Mar 2011 1:47PM
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oliver said...

One day feeling like crap, the other feeling sheepish. Today is a whole new day.

What happened to all my posts?


You got moderated

oliver
3952 posts
14 Mar 2011 1:53PM
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doggie said...

oliver said...

One day feeling like crap, the other feeling sheepish. Today is a whole new day.

What happened to all my posts?


You got moderated


(!)s

Elroy Jetson
WA, 706 posts
14 Mar 2011 2:54PM
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oliver said...

One day feeling like crap, the other feeling sheepish.



Ha ha.

Was Charlie Sheen making perfect sense to you the day before the above two days?

sharkbiscuit
820 posts
14 Mar 2011 3:04PM
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thommo 000 said...

I wonder if this could this have caused extra stress on the Earth's tectonic plates?

Yes. Look at the tidal effects of the Jovian and Saturnian systems. Moons such as Io, Europia, Enceladus etc

oliver
3952 posts
14 Mar 2011 3:16PM
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Elroy Jetson said...

oliver said...

One day feeling like crap, the other feeling sheepish.



Ha ha.

Was Charlie Sheen making perfect sense to you the day before the above two days?


Except for the one day I felt sheepish (yesterday), I'm glad I hijacked your dumb thread.

Charlie Sheen and the teenager at the centre of the Saints nude photograph scandal are my heros. I know most of you squares, will disapprove, and frown on me, but I can't wait till I see her spread in Ralph or Zoo magazine.

I'd prefer turning on the news and seeing Ricky Nixon in his jocks changing the tv station or Brendan Fevola's fat brother telling the media to go away rather than watching all these disasters unfold, one after the other, with thousands of lives lost - far too depressing for me to get my head around.

(!)

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Mar 2011 3:19PM
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sharkbiscuit said...

thommo 000 said...

I wonder if this could this have caused extra stress on the Earth's tectonic plates?

Yes. Look at the tidal effects of the Jovian and Saturnian systems. Moons such as Io, Europia, Enceladus etc



We will know tomorrow if the prediction is correct

maxm
NSW, 864 posts
14 Mar 2011 6:57PM
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sharkbiscuit said...

thommo 000 said...

I wonder if this could this have caused extra stress on the Earth's tectonic plates?

Yes. Look at the tidal effects of the Jovian and Saturnian systems. Moons such as Io, Europia, Enceladus etc



These are reasonable questions but the gas giants are a lot different to the earth/moon system. They have huge planets with (relatively) tiny moons. For example Io continually has volcanos erupting on it thanks to the tidal stresses from Jupiter's gravity - can't say the same for our moon.

As for supermoons and earthquakes, the data just doesn't seem to support any correlation between them. So not much chance of giant waves tomorrow chaps.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Mar 2011 4:15PM
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oliver said...

Elroy Jetson said...

oliver said...

One day feeling like crap, the other feeling sheepish.



Ha ha.

Was Charlie Sheen making perfect sense to you the day before the above two days?


Except for the one day I felt sheepish (yesterday), I'm glad I hijacked your dumb thread.

Charlie Sheen and the teenager at the centre of the Saints nude photograph scandal are my heros. I know most of you squares, will disapprove, and frown on me, but I can't wait till I see her spread in Ralph or Zoo magazine.

I'd prefer turning on the news and seeing Ricky Nixon in his jocks changing the tv station or Brendan Fevola's fat brother telling the media to go away rather than watching all these disasters unfold, one after the other, with thousands of lives lost - far too depressing for me to get my head around.

(!)


Go back to the SUP room, they like you in there.

pooman
WA, 293 posts
14 Mar 2011 4:27PM
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evlPanda said...

#1 Without watching the Doctor's post because I think superstition is bad luck I did some thinking, and some very minor research, and this closer than usual moon rose over Japan 6 hours before the big quake hit. It was overhead when the big one hit. I think it is very plausible that the moon can trigger earthquakes. It moves entire oceans around.

#2. I cannot believe how many earthquakes they are having. Every 15 or so minutes, 5+ on the scale:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php


Without reading any other posts. I'm told now and in the next few days is the closest the moon will ever be to the earth. And they expect the earth to warped by the gravitational pull and **** like japan to go down.

thommo 000
1670 posts
14 Mar 2011 4:28PM
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The last extreme super moon we had was on the 10th Jan 2005 about the same time as 9.0 Indonesian earthquake, and that one was on a new moon this one is on the full moon,

maxm
NSW, 864 posts
14 Mar 2011 7:50PM
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thommo, you missed the one on 12 Dec 2008 which was closer than the 2005 one - 356,567 vs 356,571 km respectively. The 90 and 93 approaches were even closer - 356,526 and 356,548 km respectively.

As you can see from the numbers though, there isn't much in it. There was a very distant approach in 1991 at 357,600 km so the difference between a close and a distant one was about 1,000 km ... bang on 0.3%

maxm
NSW, 864 posts
14 Mar 2011 7:53PM
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... and yes, there was a 9.0 earthquake about the time of the 2005 approach. There were very few earthquakes around the time of the 90-92 approaches.

oliver
3952 posts
14 Mar 2011 5:11PM
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doggie said...

oliver said...

Elroy Jetson said...

oliver said...

One day feeling like crap, the other feeling sheepish.



Ha ha.

Was Charlie Sheen making perfect sense to you the day before the above two days?


Except for the one day I felt sheepish (yesterday), I'm glad I hijacked your dumb thread.

Charlie Sheen and the teenager at the centre of the Saints nude photograph scandal are my heros. I know most of you squares, will disapprove, and frown on me, but I can't wait till I see her spread in Ralph or Zoo magazine.

I'd prefer turning on the news and seeing Ricky Nixon in his jocks changing the tv station or Brendan Fevola's fat brother telling the media to go away rather than watching all these disasters unfold, one after the other, with thousands of lives lost - far too depressing for me to get my head around.

(!)


Go back to the SUP room, they like you in there.


(.)(.) I think you are the fifth funniest guy I know - I laugh my socks off whenever you make those symbols that look like breasts. (!)

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
14 Mar 2011 5:22PM
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oliver said...

doggie said...

oliver said...

Elroy Jetson said...

oliver said...

One day feeling like crap, the other feeling sheepish.



Ha ha.

Was Charlie Sheen making perfect sense to you the day before the above two days?


Except for the one day I felt sheepish (yesterday), I'm glad I hijacked your dumb thread.

Charlie Sheen and the teenager at the centre of the Saints nude photograph scandal are my heros. I know most of you squares, will disapprove, and frown on me, but I can't wait till I see her spread in Ralph or Zoo magazine.

I'd prefer turning on the news and seeing Ricky Nixon in his jocks changing the tv station or Brendan Fevola's fat brother telling the media to go away rather than watching all these disasters unfold, one after the other, with thousands of lives lost - far too depressing for me to get my head around.

(!)


Go back to the SUP room, they like you in there.


(.)(.) I think you are the fifth funniest guy I know - I laugh my socks off whenever you make those symbols that look like breasts. (!)


Only 5th (,),)

oliver
3952 posts
14 Mar 2011 5:36PM
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I was thinking hard, and you are probably third or fourth funniest on my list. Hasn't been to much to laugh about lately. Ricky Nixon, Brendan Fevola's brother are first and second.

mkseven
QLD, 2314 posts
14 Mar 2011 8:22PM
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cwamit said...

NotWal said...

Gizmo said...

Anyone wish to start a discussion on nuclear power for Australia?


I find it hard to believe that in this day and age people would build a nuclear power station that depends on an active power supply for safety. It strikes me as stupid.



its a 40 year old power plant that was going to be retired, new designs use passive cooling method , no need for a back up power supply to safely cool down the core.

the media have been using the word meltdown, well meltdown to most people represent massive explosion resulting in wide area of nuclear contamination, likes of Chernobyl , this is impossible to happen with the design of this plant.

if anyone wants to be educated a little instead of reading the sensationalizing of the media here is some links to read

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704893604576198421680697248.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

and

morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors/



Finally a voice of reason instead of "oh no nuclear run... RUN"


gizmo said...
Hows the 40y.o infrastructure in your area? I know in my area the roads, hospitals, schools, water and sewage systems etc., are a long way from peek condition.
And just for interest where would Nuclear power stations be placed in Australia if we went down that path?.... Here is some interesting site analysis.
www.tai.org.au/file.php?file=web_papers/WP96.pdf



Umm lucas heights reactor is over 40 years old

ockanui
VIC, 1300 posts
14 Mar 2011 10:08PM
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maybe there could be a reactor down Wonthaggi {vic] way as there will be a desalination plant opening soon that will be available to provide the water required for cooling purposes!

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
14 Mar 2011 10:12PM
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De-sal plants need their own nuclear power stations to run anyway.

wodgina6722
WA, 229 posts
14 Mar 2011 7:12PM
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A nuclear power plant specified Gnangara as a possible location in the 70's, it is on the Gnangara mound.



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