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Is it a joke?????
Did not see alot of peeps trying to come here as refugees from Christian contries!
What is a Christian Country? There aren't any.
Besides that's not the point. Here's your logic as I see it:
A) Country X sucks.
B) Person A does something, or is purported to do something, that country X doesn't like.
C) You and person A probably see eye-to-eye.
D) Person A is now in the **** because country X sucks, remember?
E) Person A runs for his life
And now you say he comes from country X so he must be like country X.
I think it just boils down to some people (most?) not actually knowing, personally, any Muslims. And any time a muslim comes along and says normal things, because they are pretty normal, the same some people say "ah, but you are an exception." They are not an exception, they are the rule. And then, still not knowing any muslims personally, some people still harp on about how scary these people are, that they don't know. If you don't know a person how can you criticise them?
The overwhelming majority of people that call themselves Muslims are nice people. The overwhelming majority of people that call themselves Lefties, Liberals, Bogans, Punks, Sceptics, Fishermen, Christians, Communists, Atheists ...even Kiteboarders, are nice people. When you get to know them.
The Taliban doesn't like kites and are muslims
Windsurfers don't like kiters.
Therefore windsurfers are really Afgani boatpeople blowins and have landed here spreading hatered of kiters. Now it all makes sense! [}:)]
Hey this is rich!
I accept the statement that the vast majority of moozies are NOT active militants, and are not actively involved in the carnage we see daily emanating from militant moozies. I don't accept that the vast majority of moozies are not (at least covertly) in favour of it, even if they don't participate. When I see muslim crowds in streets in cities around the world (both western and middle eastern) protesting about the violence being perpetrated in their name, and calling for an end to violence and terrorism, then I'll believe they're not in favour of it.
In Oz and the US, overall millions of people took to the streets to protest about the Vietnam war, being perpetrated in their name. I think the Vietnam protest in Melbourne was the biggest crowd in Oz's history wasn't it? (really am not sure) There have been huge protests particularly in the UK and the US about having troops in the middle east now. Spare me, westerners even spend millions of dollars saving various wild animals There have been many, many issues over which collectively many millions of people around the world in western countries have protested in the streets, and many of those issues have been changed by those protests. Some I agreed with, and some not. The point is we didn't have warfare in the streets.
Let the so-called moderate muslims show the world that they abhor the violence and terrorism as much as the rest of the world does. Let them show us that the moderates are the majority. Take a copy of this post for posterity, so you can throw it back at me one day.
IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!!
Why?? Coz like the rest of us, the majority are quite happy to sit back and let the minority do all the hard yards to get what they all want - a global caliphate.
Mate take a trip up Sydney road Brunswick or Coburg, Proud Muslim Australians, Greek otho, Christians, Couldn't give a......a new Australian religion..... living together, marrieing each other having kids, all that. no drama
Some people need to wake up.
No matter if a person is a moderate or extreme Muslim, the agenda is the same, world domination.
Here is the link again.
Cisco, that is a very interesting documentary and the people in it seem to have done their research.
I would be careful about distributing it too blatantly as you might cop some criticism for its one sided view. It does start off very fear mongering but gets right into the details and explanations as it goes on and provides an interesting point of view even from that of a converted Muslim.
The one thing It did make me think though that every time there is an Islamic extremist, the western governments spend alot of time apologizing and explaining their position to the Islamic community. This is great so there is no misconfusion about what our goal is... But... Maybe it's just not as well documented in the media but I rarely see any outpouring or sorrow or apologies from the Islamic leaders.... Like I said, maybe not as well documented....
But very interesting...
EvlPanda stated that there are no Christian countries.
WELL, there sure as hell are plenty of muslim countries.
How many churches in saudi arabia, nada,none zero, zilch.
muslims are not tolerant, normal, or reasonable and
practice a ridiculous dark ages superstition.This is the
MAJORITY not a just a few radicals.
We actually subsidise the building of their mosques
in our country, they do not allow churches in most
of theirs, a huge difference.
screw all religions
As much as this thread contains a lot of level headed and clear posts, it seems to be headed down that same old path. Considering the 'no religious debates' rule, I think we've shown over and above a reasonable amount of leniency on this one.