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Sharks, sharks and more bloody sharks

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Created by Youngbreezy > 9 months ago, 17 Apr 2018
kiterboy
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1 May 2018 8:14AM
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DARTH said..
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saltiest1 said..
I thought it was open discussion, not mouthing off.





Repeating the same crap over and over is mouthing off.




Something you know all about.



Only turns up in shark threads, get a life lol



Interesting comment considering you spend a lot more time here than I do, Mr Mouthing-off.


Don't post on here much anymore so not sure what you are talking about.


Ah, so only to turn up in the shark threads. LOL.

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
1 May 2018 8:46AM
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kiterboy said..

DARTH said..

kiterboy said..


DARTH said..


kiterboy said..



DARTH said..



saltiest1 said..
I thought it was open discussion, not mouthing off.






Repeating the same crap over and over is mouthing off.





Something you know all about.




Only turns up in shark threads, get a life lol




Interesting comment considering you spend a lot more time here than I do, Mr Mouthing-off.



Don't post on here much anymore so not sure what you are talking about.



Ah, so only to turn up in the shark threads. LOL.


Bara
WA, 647 posts
1 May 2018 8:57AM
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kiterboy said..

DARTH said..

kiterboy said..


DARTH said..


kiterboy said..



DARTH said..



saltiest1 said..
I thought it was open discussion, not mouthing off.






Repeating the same crap over and over is mouthing off.





Something you know all about.




Only turns up in shark threads, get a life lol




Interesting comment considering you spend a lot more time here than I do, Mr Mouthing-off.



Don't post on here much anymore so not sure what you are talking about.



Ah, so only to turn up in the shark threads. LOL.


Bara
WA, 647 posts
1 May 2018 8:59AM
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DARTH said..

kiterboy said..


DARTH said..


saltiest1 said..
I thought it was open discussion, not mouthing off.





Repeating the same crap over and over is mouthing off.




Something you know all about.



Only turns up in shark threads, get a life lol


you obviously never followed razz's crypto thread then. probably posted more on that but anyway cant think of a single constructive post you have ever made on sb. not sure you even know the meaning of the word.

champ

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
1 May 2018 9:13AM
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Bara said..

DARTH said..


kiterboy said..



DARTH said..



saltiest1 said..
I thought it was open discussion, not mouthing off.






Repeating the same crap over and over is mouthing off.





Something you know all about.




Only turns up in shark threads, get a life lol



you obviously never followed razz's crypto thread then. probably posted more on that but anyway cant think of a single constructive post you have ever made on sb. not sure you even know the meaning of the word.

champ


Yawn..........

Gazuki
WA, 1363 posts
1 May 2018 2:09PM
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I love how the CSIRO states thier studys show no increase in shark numbers numbers.

fishwrecked.com/forum/sharks-coral-bay

Adriano
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1 May 2018 2:49PM
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Gazuki said..
I love how the CSIRO states thier studys show no increase in shark numbers numbers.

fishwrecked.com/forum/sharks-coral-bay


Yes the CSIRO are in on the conspiracy too...

kiterboy
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1 May 2018 2:54PM
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Adriano said..
Gazuki said..
I love how the CSIRO states thier studys show no increase in shark numbers numbers.

fishwrecked.com/forum/sharks-coral-bay


Yes the CSIRO are in on the conspiracy too...


They blew up the twin towers??!!

Windpasser
WA, 499 posts
1 May 2018 3:01PM
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Should we just move this to Heavy Weather?

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
1 May 2018 7:25PM
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Razzonater said..
On a positive note they are extending the helicopter patrols.

I think Barra has some good points, understanderbly it may be perceived as a rant however if the government implemented something similar as mentioned it is a happy medium and to be honest with the money spent thus far we have more questions than answers, whether you want to knock a few on the head (like me) or alternatively want to hug and pat every shark in the ocean ( like jb) you are not wrong.

But the facts are,
1) there has been a large increase in frequency and aggressiveness of attacks in last 10 years
2) anecdoteley there has been a huge increase in numbers of nteractions and sightings from all water users leading to a common belief that numbers have increased
3)people keep being eaten.
4) This is my own personal fun fact but it is probable and likely as great whites are habitual feeders that it is the same shark or sharks attacking people at the cowermup stretch. It will not stop until these two or three sharks are killed, it will occur every year and get worse at salmon season (now) and whale season (sept-nov)
As it is the same shark that eats people at Cottesloe every couple years.
5) I am going to go right out there and state that there is at least one great white in the ocean for every two humpback whales. (Apparently there is 80000 plus humpbacks at current worldwide) so at least minimum 40000 great white sharks worldwide, and that is being conservative, I truely believe numbers are more up around the 500000 worldwide, any one with any evidence contrary to that please show me......
I cannot believe that there are not drum lines off Cottesloe permanently, there should be 20-30 set hooksfrom injidup right through to red gate with chunks of the whale which washed up.
The humpback whale population is the healthiest it has been in a hundred years, the shark problem will get worse and worse until eventually we kill a few, unless of course we are happy to lose the Margaret river pro, millions in tourism (no one comes to wa to surf don't care how good the waves are when you can get ripped apart by a shark.


RAzz im over bothering discussing sharks on SB, one thing that is so clear is some people have zero idea..

But for the last time, i have never claimed to love sharks, im just a realist who understands that somethings can't be changed..

Good luck with it..

Mackerel
WA, 313 posts
3 May 2018 8:55AM
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Has anyone thought about organizing a rally to support a cull? I know alot of people in the Marine industry who jobs rely on being in the water would be in support. Surely enough is enough or is it just me?


Unfortunately most of those people have jobs to go to and kids to care for. Also then the media will just paint us as a bunch of ocean hating nature killers.

IFocus
WA, 582 posts
4 May 2018 5:49PM
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Gazuki said..
I love how the CSIRO states thier studys show no increase in shark numbers numbers.

fishwrecked.com/forum/sharks-coral-bay


I fished there 40 years ago.........................no different.

MDSXR6T
WA, 1019 posts
4 May 2018 8:31PM
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Mastbender
1972 posts
14 Jun 2018 7:31AM
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To the rescue!


They look like those scary sea snakes, and sharks hate scary sea snakes!

Bara
WA, 647 posts
14 Jun 2018 8:51AM
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^^^^
They got it wrong. It needs some big sticker eyes on the ankle strap, be dipped in chilli wax and have a shark banz stuck in there as well.

It could also use a matching letterbox hat for good measure.

kiterboy
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14 Jun 2018 9:03AM
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Nah mate, she'll be right, just mount one of these on your surfboard.




May as well put a roo shark bar on your board as well for good measure. No-one cares when roos are killed indiscriminately.

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
14 Jun 2018 10:28AM
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Has there been another attack?

rockmagnet
QLD, 1458 posts
8 Apr 2019 1:42PM
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DARTH said..
Has there been another attack?



Yup



NotWal
QLD, 7428 posts
8 Apr 2019 3:59PM
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If there are any validated shark repellants one would think it would be no big deal for the operators of the MR surf comp to keep a few on hand in the event that a noah turns up.
Sharkbanz, Shark Shield, whatever. Do these things work?

515
808 posts
8 Apr 2019 3:20PM
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There's a few articles on surfer today with various repellent products and may make a difference but not for great whites as they come in fast.
Would be great if they worked 100 percent of the time.

NordRoi
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8 Apr 2019 10:35PM
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kiterboy said..

Nah mate, she'll be right, just mount one of these on your surfboard.




May as well put a roo shark bar on your board as well for good measure. No-one cares when roos are killed indiscriminately.



This is so funny, you have those money trap also in Oz!! I'm from Canada and we did a trip to the OBX, a 17hrs drive for a windsurfing trip. There is a tons of Deer on the road and a friends of us bought a set and he volunteer to be the front Car. Man I think I never saw soooo many deer on the road, side of the road than on that drip...hope it works better with sharks.

rod_bunny
WA, 1089 posts
10 Apr 2019 8:02AM
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NotWal said..
If there are any validated shark repellants one would think it would be no big deal for the operators of the MR surf comp to keep a few on hand in the event that a noah turns up.
Sharkbanz, Shark Shield, whatever. Do these things work?


Powerhead in 12 gauge or .357 works well. (.44 Mag if you're felling lucky, punk)

Bara
WA, 647 posts
24 Oct 2019 10:05AM
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Just read this book on hols -

Sharks A History Of Fear In Australia
Callum Denness

Interviews with victims scientists activists pollies for a broad perspective. Good read and pretty balanced.

Some highlights for me -

Historically there used to be ALOT more sharks in our waters. Eg Local SW aboriginals are the only salt water aboriginals to have never learnt to swim or use water craft and according to elders thats down to large sharks being prevalent close to shore year round. There are literally hundreds of rock etchings on the east coast of people depicted in the jaws and stomachs of sharks.

Marine biologists are not INDEPENDENT experts just experts as more than a few freely admit they are biased toward marine creatures over human deaths and are ok with that. It's for others to worry about the human impact.

Plenty of the oft repeated stats used to downplay the risk by the likes of sea shepherd are knowingly false. E.g. the more likely to by killed by a coconut line is from an insurance add!

Our own WA shark expert that headed up our research review at UWA is co leading a campaign to remove the words "shark attack" from our language as it confers a sense of purpose on the shark we cannot know. Yeah really.

They also want sharks drawn with less sharp angles for the kiddies.

The "its all down to Jaws" myth that many scientists roll out whenever there s an attack is debunked.

Shark attacks are statistically increasing at a much greater rate than population growth and water based participation would suggest.

Unlike in years gone by we are spared the gruesome details of attacks due to concerns for past and present victims mental health. The descriptions of early attacks are truly horrific.

Shark nets and drums undoubtedly DO work but even the scientists are happy to state repeatedly they do not despite evidence to the contrary. Not very scientific eh.

Not all deaths are equal. There is such a thing as a good death and a bad death. Ie dieing in your sleep at 80 vs eaten alive at 17. So comparing death stats is pretty disingenuous at best.

Ocean guardian the makers of the shark shield already have their insurance and legal plan mapped out for when their first user or their family sues after an attack. Hint it's along the lines of we never said it was 100% effective. Haha.

Anyway recommend if you want to sort through the myths and be informed rather than just regurgitate the propaganda of what is now sadly just a political hot potato.







Mr Milk
NSW, 3004 posts
24 Oct 2019 5:11PM
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Bara said..
Not all deaths are equal. There is such a thing as a good death and a bad death. Ie dieing in your sleep at 80 vs eaten alive at 17.


Yes, but think about the street cred that comes with getting eaten. That's fully sick.

Bara
WA, 647 posts
24 Oct 2019 9:22PM
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Bara said..
Not all deaths are equal. There is such a thing as a good death and a bad death. Ie dieing in your sleep at 80 vs eaten alive at 17.




Yes, but think about the street cred that comes with getting eaten. That's fully sick.



yeah hahah but maybe read the interview with laeticias brouwers mom in the book and think again. farking nightmareish stuff...

and then to be told it was a mistaken identity bite by some scientist when the dad still has PTSD from repeatedly fighting the shark for his daughters body.

seriously read the book...

515
808 posts
25 Oct 2019 4:41AM
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That sounds like a gruesome read. Apart from watching Jaws when I was young, I don't watch shark movies.




actiomax
NSW, 1575 posts
26 Oct 2019 8:12AM
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I just finished reading it .
A very interesting book & I would recommend it.

Paddles B'mere
QLD, 3586 posts
29 Oct 2019 9:12PM
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Top tip Bara, I just jumped onto booktopia and ordered it.

I see there's been another attack on two tourists in the Whitsundays, they were apparently thrashing around and wrestling each other on the surface whilst snorkelling/swimming.

Crusoe
QLD, 1195 posts
30 Oct 2019 5:49AM
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Maybe we could make a list of ways to enhance the chance.

I always thought "swimming at dusk with a dog" was a good one, but "wrestling each other on the surface whilst snorkelling/swimming" might just beat it.

I've also order the book you recommended Bara, cheers

actiomax
NSW, 1575 posts
30 Oct 2019 7:42AM
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I got it from big w



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