Select to expand quoteCrusoe said..
Maybe we could make a list of ways to enhance the chance.
I always thought "swimming at dusk with a dog" was a good one, but "wrestling each other on the surface whilst snorkelling/swimming" might just beat it.
I've also order the book you recommended Bara, cheers
Actually theres no correlation between time of day and attacks in Australia. But we are still told to be wary of dawn and dusk because " well we have to say something" according to one official interviewed in the book 
I reckon there's a false sense of security when on tour groups like this one. Just look at the whale shark diving off exmouth where groups of people happily jump in and thrash around offshore whenever the tour operator says so. Would never do it yourself off your own boat there but human psychology is pretty interesting on this stuff. There's a chapter on that and how we perceive risk etc.
Select to expand quoteBara said..Crusoe said..
Maybe we could make a list of ways to enhance the chance.
I always thought "swimming at dusk with a dog" was a good one, but "wrestling each other on the surface whilst snorkelling/swimming" might just beat it.
I've also order the book you recommended Bara, cheers
Actually theres no correlation between time of day and attacks in Australia. But we are still told to be wary of dawn and dusk because " well we have to say something" according to one official interviewed in the book
I reckon there's a false sense of security when on tour groups like this one. Just look at the whale shark diving off exmouth where groups of people happily jump in and thrash around offshore whenever the tour operator says so. Would never do it yourself off your own boat there but human psychology is pretty interesting on this stuff. There's a chapter on that and how we perceive risk etc.
Use to do a fair bit of spear fishing years ago and saw plenty of sharks. Bugger all during the middle of the day but after about 3pm they would start to come in from the deeper water. So we never went spearing in the late afternoon. The sharks were pretty placid most of the time until you fired your speargun. As if by magic they went from the leisurely cruisers to high speed racers. The trick was to get you speared fish and lift it out of the water, and the sharks would calm back down. So I base my assumption that the time of day has something to do with sharks being around from personal experience and not some thing I read or was told.
Select to expand quoteCrusoe said..Bara said..Crusoe said..
Maybe we could make a list of ways to enhance the chance.
I always thought "swimming at dusk with a dog" was a good one, but "wrestling each other on the surface whilst snorkelling/swimming" might just beat it.
I've also order the book you recommended Bara, cheers
Actually theres no correlation between time of day and attacks in Australia. But we are still told to be wary of dawn and dusk because " well we have to say something" according to one official interviewed in the book
I reckon there's a false sense of security when on tour groups like this one. Just look at the whale shark diving off exmouth where groups of people happily jump in and thrash around offshore whenever the tour operator says so. Would never do it yourself off your own boat there but human psychology is pretty interesting on this stuff. There's a chapter on that and how we perceive risk etc.
Use to do a fair bit of spear fishing years ago and saw plenty of sharks. Bugger all during the middle of the day but after about 3pm they would start to come in from the deeper water. So we never went spearing in the late afternoon. The sharks were pretty placid most of the time until you fired your speargun. As if by magic they went from the leisurely cruisers to high speed racers. The trick was to get you speared fish and lift it out of the water, and the sharks would calm back down. So I base my assumption that the time of day has something to do with sharks being around from personal experience and not some thing I read or was told.
Yep same experience here. Always more sharkies about when they can sees dinner better and the fishies a squealing on a spearhead.
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..roodney said..
Suicide kills 10 men a day.
Just sayin 
Select to expand quoteroodney said..kiterboy said..roodney said..
Suicide kills 10 men a day.
Just sayin
Suicide doesn't kill people.
Just sayin
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..roodney said..kiterboy said..roodney said..
Suicide kills 10 men a day.
Just sayin
Suicide doesn't kill people.
Just sayin 
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..Suicide doesn't kill peopleroodney said..kiterboy said..roodney said..
Suicide kills 10 men a day.
Just sayin .
I agree comparing this to suicide achieves little in the discussion but...
Given that suicide is legally a form of homicide and they do in fact die, I think your statement is a little odd.
Select to expand quoteholy guacamole said..kiterboy said..Suicide doesn't kill peopleroodney said..kiterboy said..roodney said..
Suicide kills 10 men a day.
Just sayin .
I agree comparing this to suicide achieves little in the discussion but...
Given that suicide is legally a form of homicide and they do in fact die, I think your statement is a little odd.
Why is it odd?
Suicide doesn't kill people.
I went to a wedding in Byron Bay a few years ago and stayed for a week with my wife. I talked her into doing a sea kayak tour. She wasn't keen but went anyway. We paddled a fair way offshore in a group of about 12 kayaks, doubles and singles. When we were out quite deep some people said they felt sea sick. The guide said the best way to combat that was to go for a swim which most did, diving off their yaks and splashing around. My wife asked if I was going in. I said no bloody way. It felt weird enough having my legs over the side of the yak when resting, It was whale migration season and we were in very deep dark water. Felt sharky... The next day the local paper got delivered and the front page had a story about a kayak tour being harassed by a 4-5 meter great white the day before we went! I showed the missus and she went white herself! I can still get a reaction from her when I mention it. She wanted to sue someone. Also, when returning to the beach I noticed everyone was passing us despite me paddling my ass off. Carrying the yak up the beach we got passed by a couple of small Asian girls carrying their yak. I thought it was strange and when I said to the guide ours felt heavy he said," Oh, you've got number 12, it leaks a fair bit of water". Turns out we were paddling and carrying an extra 150 kilos of weight the whole day! Fun times
TH...
www.smh.com.au/world/africa/as-great-white-sharks-disappear-cape-town-searches-for-answers-20191001-p52wez.html
Maybe they all moved over here like the rest of south Africa.
With all his interactions it sounds like old mate needs both a scientifically proven, government rebated Sea Sense and shark alert app to warn him where the sharks are
No point spending any money on marine tourism with ad's like that on tv and the radio!
I've read about it a few times . Does painting stripes , like a zebra crossing , on the bottom of a board work ?
I remember seeing a pic posted here a while ago , it was a windsurfer with huge chomp marks on both sides of the board . He was asking how to repair it . It happened mid jibe . FAAARK !
Select to expand quoteIan K said..Adriano said..
Sorry to have to draw your attention to the facts
www.aihw.gov.au/news-media/media-releases/2000-1/jul/head-injury-a-danger-for-young-female-horse-riders
"Approximately 20 Australians are killed as a result of horse-riding activities each year, with 3000 being admitted to hospital with horse-related injuries."
Horses are our most dangerous large animal. Especially if you correct the stats for the amount of man-hours spent on horses each year compared to the man-hours spent in the ocean.
Ocean no problem, but you won't get me on a horse.
Is this now proof that killing as many of the offenders as you can doesn't work?
Select to expand quotetangohotel said..
I went to a wedding in Byron Bay a few years ago and stayed for a week with my wife. I talked her into doing a sea kayak tour. She wasn't keen but went anyway. We paddled a fair way offshore in a group of about 12 kayaks, doubles and singles. When we were out quite deep some people said they felt sea sick. The guide said the best way to combat that was to go for a swim which most did, diving off their yaks and splashing around. My wife asked if I was going in. I said no bloody way. It felt weird enough having my legs over the side of the yak when resting, It was whale migration season and we were in very deep dark water. Felt sharky... The next day the local paper got delivered and the front page had a story about a kayak tour being harassed by a 4-5 meter great white the day before we went! I showed the missus and she went white herself! I can still get a reaction from her when I mention it. She wanted to sue someone. Also, when returning to the beach I noticed everyone was passing us despite me paddling my ass off. Carrying the yak up the beach we got passed by a couple of small Asian girls carrying their yak. I thought it was strange and when I said to the guide ours felt heavy he said," Oh, you've got number 12, it leaks a fair bit of water". Turns out we were paddling and carrying an extra 150 kilos of weight the whole day! Fun times
TH...
We would sit and watch those tours leave the beach. On a bigger swell, god they were hilarious..Those tour guides work bloody hard..
