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Anti-deathdrag harness attachment

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Created by waveslave > 9 months ago, 18 Jul 2011
waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
18 Jul 2011 6:30PM
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Well,
You can still get deathdragged with a psycho kite using this arrangement ... ^^^
But at least when you get dragged from the front (as opposed from the back of the harness),
you can see what you are going to smash into.
Always be aware of the hazards.

toppleover
QLD, 2043 posts
18 Jul 2011 8:49PM
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I can see your point but what if that main line breaks.?

What, NO secondary in case of failure ????

radman4
678 posts
18 Jul 2011 6:55PM
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Still looks to be potential for a tangle ,i would clip it to the side of the dynabar,that way you always know where to reach for without having to look.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
18 Jul 2011 7:00PM
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radman4 said...
i would clip it to the side of the dynabar,


But would that work for doing handle-passes ? ^^^

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
18 Jul 2011 7:02PM
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toppleover said...

What, NO secondary in case of failure ????


lol.
How many death-leashes do you need ? ^^^

Spacemonkey!
SA, 2288 posts
18 Jul 2011 8:50PM
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come on slave you can do better than this, lift your game

BarryDawson
WA, 175 posts
18 Jul 2011 7:22PM
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OMG waveslave, it's like groundhog day with you. I'm sure your a lovely guy that when he goes out has lot's to offer on a range of topics and is well rounded and versed on many subjects..... but on here your a one topic troll!

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
18 Jul 2011 7:27PM
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BarryDawson said...

OMG waveslave, it's like groundhog day with you. I'm sure your a lovely guy that when he goes out has lot's to offer on a range of topics and is well rounded and versed on many subjects..... but on here your a one topic troll!


Hi Barry,
This is a safety thread.
Have you got something against discussing safe kiting practices on the forum ?

BarryDawson
WA, 175 posts
18 Jul 2011 7:34PM
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Sorry waveslave but I'm now in the queue with djdojo and lotofwind and am also now bored with your leash rants.

sebol
WA, 753 posts
18 Jul 2011 7:37PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Really??????, I was really looking forward to the next episode

Spacemonkey!
SA, 2288 posts
18 Jul 2011 9:08PM
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at least mix in some dude and man

toppleover
QLD, 2043 posts
18 Jul 2011 9:45PM
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waveslave said...

toppleover said...

What, NO secondary in case of failure ????


lol.
How many death-leashes do you need ? ^^^


I only need 1, attached to a secure / free of tangles point....to be honest (your pic) looks like a dogs breakfast.

radman4
678 posts
18 Jul 2011 7:49PM
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Should be no worries with a std lgth leash hooked to the override on a below the bar,i see you've shortened the leash with knots,problem i can see with this setup is if the dynabar line snaps under load then its all over,everythings dependn't on the one line.

waveslave said...

radman4 said...
i would clip it to the side of the dynabar,


But would that work for doing handle-passes ? ^^^




waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
18 Jul 2011 7:59PM
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radman4 said...
i see you've shortened the leash with knots



Maybe I should mention that the below pic is not a photo of my gear. ^^^
I don't use a death-leash.
What interested me in the photo was that the handle-pass line (the white rope) is on the harness front.
Normally it's on the back.




bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
18 Jul 2011 10:33PM
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waveslave said...

radman4 said...
i see you've shortened the leash with knots



Maybe I should mention that the below pic is not a photo of my gear. ^^^
I don't use a death-leash.
What interested me in the photo was that the handle-pass line (the white rope) is on the harness front.
Normally it's on the back.





thats not a handle pass line, its designed for the harness hook to slide along.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
18 Jul 2011 8:41PM
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bennie said...





thats not a handle pass line, its designed for the harness hook to slide along.




Bennie,
I think you're right.

radman4
678 posts
19 Jul 2011 6:29AM
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Yea its got a QR setup instead of a hook,looks a mess and could easily get tangled ,iv'e never had a problem punching out with the leash attached to the handle pass lesh on the back of my mystic,always been able to reach it no worries,used to have a spreader with a built in front attach for the leash but it was a pain in the butt as it constantly kept getting tangled with the safty line flicking up and twisting around it.

Doudou
WA, 46 posts
19 Jul 2011 9:53AM
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The pb with the leas on the front is that if you crash hard with a lot of power you will hurt your back...badly!
but that's mainly for freestyle, though I wouldnt want to be dragged in the waves pulled by the bellybutton!

Chris_M
2129 posts
19 Jul 2011 10:56AM
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It looks like its from the 1990's! If you're so worried about getting dragged backwards why not just clip your safety to your harness hook? Gets a bit busy with the chicken loop in there too, but makes more sense than using this dodgy looking piece of crap! Also, seem to remember some harnesses having a ring on the front of the harness so you could clip your safety leash there? Think it might have been an old Da Kine or Nash seat harness I started out on in 2006?



^ Not the same as my old one, but see, its got a safety leash attachment at the front

DazzaRap
WA, 60 posts
20 Jul 2011 11:36AM
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I noticed a few references elsewhere to a "death leash". anyone know what it means. not that I want one.

Dazza

sunseeker
QLD, 1203 posts
20 Jul 2011 2:16PM
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DazzaRap said...

I noticed a few references elsewhere to a "death leash". anyone know what it means. not that I want one.

Dazza


Some people refer to the kite leash as a death leash. The reason for this is that some people believe it to be a safety device making you safer wheras its actually a device to stop your kite from blowing away when you activate your safety or drop the bar when unhooked. The main danger is when your kite has some sort of a tangle and continues to loop even though you have activated your safety and drags you out of control. This is even worse if the leash is attached to the back of your harness which people do if they do a lot of handle passes. The safest way to use a kite leash is to attach it to the front of your harness and be familiar with using the device to activate the kite leash safety - normally a red slide handle that should be closest to the harness.

Ellobuddha
NSW, 625 posts
20 Jul 2011 6:52PM
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I seriously doubt that the leash is meant to be on the running line and probably just a personal choice ( a tangly choice)



waveslave said...

bennie said...





thats not a handle pass line, its designed for the harness hook to slide along.




Bennie,
I think you're right.







ok
NSW, 1088 posts
20 Jul 2011 7:17PM
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my deathleash doesnt drag me it flags my kite to one line?????

i used it the sarvo n it saved me from losing my kite n drowning

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
20 Jul 2011 5:26PM
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Jeez Slave
Thats an awesome bit of equipment.
It would be fantastic to have your hook swing to the side for wave riding.
Not to mention the comfort when toe-siding.

Now I wonder where you go to give one a try ???
Hmmm - I think Woodys has one available for demo. Why dont you ring them & give it a GO


lol

ps Yes they are not meant for carrying your safety leash - thats totally bunted.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
20 Jul 2011 7:27PM
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Waveslave,,please post a pic of your safety system and what your useing when you hit your safety release.
It will benifit this thread, about safe kiteing, if we can see and understand that you know and use a safer method , than what you call "the death leash" system.
You may even save some lives from the killer leashes.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
20 Jul 2011 6:39PM
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Loto,
If you unhook, you need to tether yourself to your powerkite.
Sorry to tell you that.

ok
NSW, 1088 posts
20 Jul 2011 8:47PM
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waveslave?

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
20 Jul 2011 6:52PM
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ok said...

waveslave?


What ? ^^^
You see, I never unhook ... so I don't need to tether myself to my powerkite.

ok
NSW, 1088 posts
20 Jul 2011 8:56PM
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your powerkite has how many lines?

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
20 Jul 2011 6:57PM
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It's a 4-liner. ^^^

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
20 Jul 2011 9:02PM
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Your still not answering(skirting around) the question.
So what happends if you have to hit your safety in an emergency????



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