GetFunky, you are wasting your time. You are not going to get through to them. Their ignorance & naivety is going to get this sport banned.
As stated before, your entire argument about the risk is not valid as it is not backed up by actual facts.
The truth is that there are very few Kiting incidents on par with every other activities.
Howether your desire for sensationalism with the high danger, warp speed,nearly F$%^ed every kiters within 50 meters (great effort with 25 meters lines
) ,put them in peril
, bona fide danger
most potentially hazardous craft
,kite requires 25m safety radius
,real damage to other water users
,feel threatened
,high power kites and the rest of the bull $^^t is the kind of ammunition used by non kiters to push for an outright ban.
Independant of your intention (I would like to hope that we bat on the same team but not entirely convinced), you are a drama queen and should chanel your energy in a more constructive manner
Thanks for your support.
Dear all
When we posted this 'advice' from Cambridge, we knew it would create a level of discussion and comment from local kiters. We also knew that there was no 'good time' for news like this.
As with the debate & discussion we had with City of Joondalup, please be aware that this is a public forum and that comments can & will be read by all manner of persons, including most likely, Cambridge officials.
There are competing ideas & comments about what to do and how to do it. WAKSA will advise all members via email about what we as an organisation will be doing in the coming week - it is Christmas after all & I reckon most of us have some other significant stuff going on for the next week or so???
Let's keep the debate focussed and on message rather than becoming a series of personal comments. If this goes the way that Mullaloo went, we will all need to be saying the same message - in disunity, there is death.
Until the issue is resolved, we ask that kiters refrain from launching/landing @ the Floreat groyne and launch as requested either south of City Beach or north of Floreat SLSC. P!ssing officaldom off won't win us any friends - or the argument.
Stay tuned.
@getfunky
This is obviously a topic that you feel passionate about. But writing 13 paragraphs on some internet forum is not the same as actually putting some action behind your feelings - regardless of the number of emoticons you use. So perhaps you should consider directing your energy towards something more tangible that can help the situation?
Also, using such emotive language to lecture other forum users on how dangerous kiters are is never going to win people over to your point of view. Whilst I agree with your general sentiment, the hysterics in your posts tend to put me offside.
It sounds like we all need a group hug
Anyway, I for one are Glad to see Mr WAKSA is on the case...
I cant believe all the drama queens on here and how much all this crap gets blowen out of perspective.
I hope WA local councils realise that the cr@p posted on here is from a small crew of computer nerds and isnt the majority of kiters, that dont post on this forum and have a real life.
Yeah, I post alot
You guys in WA seem to like to cut your own throats????
Cant believe all the bs in this thread. From what I can see the
plan is a reasonable one, with one exception.
The area 50m north of the groyne, south of the surf club should be changed to
" launching and landing Permitted ".
Anyone who thinks they should be able to kite between the
groynes is being unreasonable and unrealistic.
If waksa could get that one thing changed I think it would
be a good compromise for all involved.
Ok,thanks for clearing that up.
Are there actually any signs up stating that kiting between
the groynes is banned? When I went past on a downwinder
a few days ago I noticed a number of people setting up on
the south side of the floreat groyne.
No sign to my knowledge but everyone respect that anyway and no one is fighting for the right to kite between the groins.
Doesn't seem to be any blow ins doing the wrong thing either.
Overall, it is an excellent crew very mindfull of doing the right thing and great vibe all round.
Could this thread be stickied so it doesn't slowly drift away? That way anyone visiting the forum will find out not to launch there for the mean time.
^^^This is the most dissapointing thing about the whole situation, that rules are being made
with no consultation.
I really think WAKSA needs to be more proactive with getting signage up at all our main kitesurfing beaches to alert kitesurfers and the public alike, as to where we are recommended to kite and the areas to keep away from. This is common sense for most but would sort out the tourists and the ignorant.
Preferably, the signage would also have a phone number for WAKSA so any issues can be sorted before people go to council to complain.
I've been up to mullaloo to kite a couple of times since those restrictions were put in place and haven't noticed any signage up yet. How are people to know? This is as much about educating the general public as policing ourselves!
^^^WAKSA has been very proactive in trying to get signage up at various locations.
This requires consultation with the respective local councils, simply erecting a sign without council permission will likely be classed as illegal bill posting and simply removed. Consultation with council is complex and a double-edged sword. By asking a council for signage, you are effectively prompting them to do a review of kitesurfing activities at your beach.
Fremantle city council has been approached re signage at Leighton, and after about 12 months FCC dismissed this as "not being a priority at this point in time". I think WAKSA are still waiting for Melville city council to erect signs that have been promised for about 2-3 years.
From what I can tell from these posts, there are no RULES (apart from kiting in the flags).
Not really sure what a communication of a "trial" or "advice" given to WAKSA actually means for the rest of us.
If the Council wants to police any areas, then there should be signage and applicable by-laws.
I also query what power the Council has any actual authority beyond the high water mark of the beach in any event.
Really, to my mind, it is carry on as usual, don't kite between the flags and don't be a d1ckhead !
And by the way, launching just to the south of Floreat Groin is the most sensible place to do it. There are generally no people there.
Good work Waksa on getting the signs up.
Hopefully the other shires can see it as a good way of resolving conflict.
Other beach users simply want to be able to go to the beach and not have to worry about kiters coming near them and their kids.
Unfortunately, exclusion zones ( larger than the flagged areas ) and signage are the only realistic solution.
Hopefully Waksa are able to limit the size of these areas, and I can't help but think that if a marked exclusion zone was already in place at City beach/Floreat, it may not have come to this.
It's become obvious that kiters need to get on the front foot or councils will just ban us from twice as much area as is reasonable.
we definitely need some signs lol... something along the lines of this one, but for kiters and surfers. perfect for the zone just to the north of floreat groyne.
want to segregate the kiters from swimmers? time to turn the tables and think outside the box...
^^^^^
The problem with some councils and signs is that before they put up a sign, a council by law must be passed. For them to put a by law in place, there must be a full investigation. I'm sure you can work out the rest.
hehe ive just relaised i havent read the posts btw.
if you drop your kite in that zone u can't relaunch
Ladies and gents, I think a major point that we need to focus on is keeping the Beach Inspectors (Clubbies) at Flozza and C/B on our good side.
From what I see, the local SLSC's seem like an extention to the local councils. My understanding is that the councils liase with the SLSC a hell of a lot when it comes to any beach issue.
Anyone a member of the Flozza, C/B surf clubs? Time to put in a good word for us.....
The beach about 100m north of the groin is more or less invisible from the car park, and it is usually empty even in moderate winds.
If we leave the grass, and the adjacent beach to picnickers and beach goers and we set up, launch and land 100m north of the groin we avoid any possibility of conflict.
Other than that we just need to respect SLSC activities. That particular beach is relatively short and not far upwind from the SLSC which wont welcome frequently crashing and drifting kites to their area. Therefore beginner and intermediate riders will be much safer to set up and kite just north of Floreat SLSC.
I still strongly doubt the legality of the present "advices" and actions of the ranger. However, we are better keep peace with council officials.
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