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Created by Plummet > 9 months ago, 7 Aug 2012
Gorgo
VIC, 4980 posts
9 Aug 2012 11:16PM
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bennie said...
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yes it was the prob, isn't anymore as I sold it. It was a 2010 slingshot fuse.
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I have had the Fuse for a few test rides and it is a really horrible board. Possibly the second worst board I have tried.

I have offered to pay for shipping a Wave for a test, or even buy one with a money back, satisfaction guarantee but no luck on that front.

eppo
WA, 9499 posts
9 Aug 2012 10:29PM
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What about a plummet, soon to be released. Lol

radman4
678 posts
10 Aug 2012 5:42AM
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Yes I agree the symmetrical rocker on the wave does make it feel more like a tt but it kills a tt in surf,riding toe on the surf fins you can smash the wave like a SB without the arse end of the board letting go and you can do it with way more speed,the most amazing thing about the board is how it rides backwards it is so easy and smooth ,you can absolutely blast along like on a tt heel side into the face of a wave and flick the board round onto toe in an instant and carve the face it's an unreal ride ,grin factor is off the charts.

eppo
WA, 9499 posts
10 Aug 2012 8:04AM
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What he said above

Plummet
4862 posts
10 Aug 2012 8:59AM
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hey radman. i need to ride that cb at some stage so i can tweek for mutant gen 2.

thinking about a himatangi to waikanai run (70km down winder for you aus blokes) playing in the waves ..... mmmh. been thinking about that run for a while.

ice
VIC, 221 posts
10 Aug 2012 11:00AM
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Gorgo said...

bennie said...
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yes it was the prob, isn't anymore as I sold it. It was a 2010 slingshot fuse.
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I have had the Fuse for a few test rides and it is a really horrible board. Possibly the second worst board I have tried.




I love my Slingshot Fuse. No good in Chop but great in waves or flat water.

myusernam
QLD, 6120 posts
10 Aug 2012 12:05PM
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the mako king gets rave reviews. anyone ridden one?

radman4
678 posts
10 Aug 2012 10:36AM
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Plummet said...

hey radman. i need to ride that cb at some stage so i can tweek for mutant gen 2.

thinking about a himatangi to waikanai run (70km down winder for you aus blokes) playing in the waves ..... mmmh. been thinking about that run for a while.


Give me a yell when your planning to do it i'd be keen can bring the Wave and one of my 5'6 or 5'8 SB's along for us to swap would be an awesome run on the SB,the locals would be keen as.

radman4
678 posts
10 Aug 2012 10:42AM
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Gorgo said...

bennie said...
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yes it was the prob, isn't anymore as I sold it. It was a 2010 slingshot fuse.
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I have had the Fuse for a few test rides and it is a really horrible board. Possibly the second worst board I have tried.

I have offered to pay for shipping a Wave for a test, or even buy one with a money back, satisfaction guarantee but no luck on that front.



i'd just go for it all b/s aside the board rocks ,its the only board i've ever owned that i would never part with,it would be awesome if cardboards also made a smaller version,i'd be in for one.

eppo
WA, 9499 posts
10 Aug 2012 1:10PM
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Most waves come with chop so I don't see the point...but glad ya stoked.

Smaller version...mmm yeh I have thought the same thing from time to time, but I would say smaller sizes would move you more towards the TT end of the spectrum. The Cb wave can be edged like a TT but nowhere near as good at the limits of your kite. It planes very easily. When my bro can't plane, with same kite, same conditions on his 135 TT I can plane, and even do a down winder.

I agree with radman, buying soon a TT for crazy balls to the walls conditions, have a sector 54 for the light stuff, and didn't even contemplate moving on the Wave. Even in moderate winds (compared to kite size), and flat conditions I will still convert it to a decent TT by taking the thrusters out and putting in a couple of TT fins. If swell is a little higher, sloppy crap, two of the side thruster fins just put in (looser feel for more TT stuff but still surfable). When cranking out comes the three fins. Even have ridden it like the makoish setup with the middle thruster that is fun as. Very versatile board for that.

Plummet
4862 posts
10 Aug 2012 2:01PM
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Had my plummutant out in 30-40 knots in crazy conditions. It loved it. I was even getting floaty airs on the little 6 reo. When you start gliding on that kite you know its WINDY.

I wonder if its the more rounded corners??!!! i'm not sure but my old katana TT which this is partly shapped from also loved insane wind and held crazy power.

Going TT style the mutant is as good as my katana for holding power. on the mutant side it can hold more power.

What i have noticed when i have ridden squarer tipped TT's is that they can hold down as much power through chop.

eppo
WA, 9499 posts
10 Aug 2012 2:40PM
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Yeh that could be it, the CB wave has fairly rounded tips...mmm

waiting for the first plummet production!

Smithy
VIC, 858 posts
10 Aug 2012 7:48PM
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ice said...

Gorgo said...

bennie said...
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yes it was the prob, isn't anymore as I sold it. It was a 2010 slingshot fuse.
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I have had the Fuse for a few test rides and it is a really horrible board. Possibly the second worst board I have tried.




I love my Slingshot Fuse. No good in Chop but great in waves or flat water.



Same here, love my Fuse in sloppy high wind bay chop with a small kite. When the waves are cleaner I go back to my North Whip surf board.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
10 Aug 2012 8:11PM
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I love mutants

eppo
WA, 9499 posts
10 Aug 2012 7:25PM
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Might not look right but feels just as good when riding it . Lol

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
10 Aug 2012 9:28PM
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Depends if your riding it front side or back side

eppo
WA, 9499 posts
10 Aug 2012 9:12PM
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lotofwind said...

Depends if your riding it front side or back side





Nah mutants ride just as good backwards as front wards, just need a slight change of technique

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
10 Aug 2012 11:36PM
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eppo said...

lotofwind said...

Depends if your riding it front side or back side





Nah mutants ride just as good backwards as front wards, just need a slight change of technique


Na, i have to disagree.(but we all like different things)
I have owned a shinn wave for 2 years now, given it alot of hours, but it rides like poo on the way out (thruster fins forwards).
Fins grab and dig in, not good to load up and boost off waves.Dosent hold rail well, more on useing the fins.
I have been looking for 4 years for an alternative to riding waves and free ride style boosting,spinning what ever. I dont enjoy SB,good on a wave but thats it.
Have put larger fins on my TT and is doing as good as anything I have found.
Some mutants are ok but the ones that are seem to be power hungry.
Ummmmmm, after bagging the shinn wave, umm, anyone want to buy one cheap.
Ummmm,,,eeerrrrr, awsome board in the waves and for boosting large
$400 if you want it, or $700 to the mutant lovers

eppo
WA, 9499 posts
10 Aug 2012 10:10PM
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When ya sell ya shinn have a go on the CB wave. I load up big time backwards( mm that's funny with reference to our earlier discussion ), actually can load up better in some sense. Yeh I tried the shinn before the cb wave, not in the same league man, but probably bites a bite more thrusters at the back and does carve very nicely in the waves. Also boosts big and is good in the waves....lol. In the mutant sense anyhow, apparently the boards in the other range are awesome.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
11 Aug 2012 12:17AM
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^^^^^thats what everyone on here told me about the shinn's.lol
Yeah, each to their own, what some love others hate. Just my opinion.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
11 Aug 2012 8:14AM
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Sorry if i missed it earlier but anyone wanna comment on Ocean Rodeo Makos? 140 or 150cm?

I'm more inclined to a centred TT rather than a mutant. Boy i was tempted by the CB Wave tho. I'm 85 pies (kgs) and have been riding a 150 LF Proof. Onshore waves, basic big boosts and ocean downwinders are my thing. Upwind not really a factor.

Love the LF Proof shape still but want something lighter. Happy to keep my 150 LF if 140 Mako gets going in 18+ kts.

Mr Soft Serve
NSW, 51 posts
11 Aug 2012 12:24PM
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I have a 5'2 NRG Hawaii epoxy sandwich Mutant it's the best but not to many around.Tried all other boards but this is the one.

Plummet
4862 posts
11 Aug 2012 3:54PM
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Mr Soft Serve said...

I have a 5'2 NRG Hawaii epoxy sandwich Mutant it's the best but not to many around.Tried all other boards but this is the one.


picture?

terminal
1421 posts
11 Aug 2012 5:45PM
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Plummet said...

thats probably a fair assessment puppet. I'm definately not a purist wave rider. I prefer to "play" amongst the waves than endlessly smack lips down the line.

ps anybody seen any good mutant videos online? .... i can't find anything. its either freestyle or surfboard videos.


You'd have to find old video tapes that have been converted.

This section was much better to the original music.



terminal
1421 posts
11 Aug 2012 5:53PM
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I linked to this on a previous mutant thread. Its got some reasonable mutant lip smacking.

www.dailymotion.com/video/xgyxas

Plummet
4862 posts
11 Aug 2012 6:59PM
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those are some nice old school vids. i like them. jumping off ships and cliffs. boosting some waves! nice.

brycol
QLD, 15 posts
11 Aug 2012 9:02PM
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I have the Ocean Rodeo mako 140 and king 165. My style would be more freeride than freestyle, weight around 80kgs & 48yr. The bottom concave and longitudinal curve make for a sensational smooth ride in even the choppiest conditions. I have the king set up with a deck pad and straps in a surf style. The fin set up is tri fin one end and front single centre fin. This set up lets you surf and when needed you can still ride heel side to let the legs rest. The bottom curve keeps the front fin out of the water until needed. Kiting mates all love to take the both of the makos out for a spin when I'm not using them. Wish someone would sell them in Oz, had to get mine from the US. These boards are great on joints & easy to turn for old fellas like me!

Plummet
4862 posts
11 Aug 2012 7:48PM
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Since there isn't many vids for mutants we need to make some!!. come on mutant lovers strapon a gopro and upload some lovin!

eppo
WA, 9499 posts
11 Aug 2012 9:25PM
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You first. Wanna see the new 2013 plummet in action before I put my order in. Lol.

Try a take the piss out of the normal marketing crapola we see. Now that would be funny.

Mr Soft Serve
NSW, 51 posts
11 Aug 2012 11:43PM
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I've had a go of the ocean rodeo mako the only problem is they are
A bit to wide good for choppy conditions.But for bottom hand turns
A bit hard to dig the rail in compare to the nrg hawaii epoxy sandwich.
PLUMMET will put photo up of of nrg tomorrow.



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