Never tried it so i dunno but to me it looks boring as bat sh!t. I get the learning part would be not so boring but seriously once your comfortable riding around is it honestly still fun? Or do people just do it because you can ride in hardly any wind? Seriously i recon id rather just go for a swim.
Its a different sensation man. I'm firmly in the learning phase right now. But when proficient It will be another discipline i will draw on when conditions are optimal. It widens the grin factor for powered awesome sessions.
Imagine if you could do most of what you can do on the water now but magically floating above it like Jesus. Then consider that you be can powered to all fark in 12 knot.
The sensation of blasting above the water is pretty darn sweet. The upwind angles you can go at open up a range more spots than you would even consider on a TT or SB. Conditions that were previously **** (small swell chop days) become a lush sweeet session.Imagine fangin above that hidious chop at twice the speed as your normal board charging upwind on a day you would normally do the walk of shame?
What I really wanna know is what's the go with the people thinking their chosen style/dissaplin is the only one worth doing???
You have fun foiling then foil.
You have fun riding surf board with or with out straps then do that.
You wanna ride in boots the ****en go for it.
But trying to tell someone that their not having fun the Correct way seems a lil weird to me.
Looks like 17-18 knots this arvo. I'm gonna punt some strapless airs on my SB then try some board offs on my TT??????
It's where the money (sales) are at the moment.
All the companies are pumping it.
Twintip/boots/surfboard market is saturated, with minimal growth and heaps of second hand gear on gum-tree to meet demand.
I also think its funny how theres all different size and shaped boards for it. Again its something i know nothing about but it seams like the board doesnt ever go in the water so wtf?
To see just how addictive foiling is you need only note the number of kiters that started with posts such as the first one, then a few months later have posts such as plummet's.
In regards to it being sales driven. I would say foiling is driving sales. And that is bringing the mainline kite companies in with it seems rushed products focusing on market share.
When I first saw foiling, I thought it was the stupidest lawnmowing boring thing ever. Now I have only used my foil in the last 5 months.
It basically turns bad conditions into great conditions. If you have light winds with waist high swell without it breaking, you can ride that on your foil for 200m no problem, carving left to right like you are on fresh powder on a snowboard, then swing around with a jibe and go 45 degrees upwind to get back to your starting place in one pass.
If you have strong winds then its incredible the feeling of just shooting 1m over all the whitewash at high speeds, then hitting a sharp jibe and just carving anywhere you want.
I also think its funny how theres all different size and shaped boards for it. Again its something i know nothing about but it seams like the board doesnt ever go in the water so wtf?
Volume is good in lighter winds and for learning with the amount of touch downs that happen.
Free riders and especially those with more experience do not need long boards or ones with volume So much but you will see that the racing guys still have boards that are around 75mm thick with lots of nose rocker.
I am one of the new addicted learners who procrastinated for a couple of years until I saw the Greg Drexler vids.
That aside, the feeling of being able to go anywhere with ease, to not have to fight to stay upwind when the wind is crap and simply cruising over the chop and riding the onshore wind swell ... it fits in well where I live.
It adds to the other riding I do in a good way. Addictive as hell once you get to the up on the foil for a distance stage . . . Well it is that way for me at the moment. Riding strapless above the water on a magic carpet type ride.
Its a different sensation man. I'm firmly in the learning phase right now. But when proficient It will be another discipline i will draw on when conditions are optimal. It widens the grin factor for powered awesome sessions.
Imagine if you could do most of what you can do on the water now but magically floating above it like Jesus. Then consider that you be can powered to all fark in 12 knot.
The sensation of blasting above the water is pretty darn sweet. The upwind angles you can go at open up a range more spots than you would even consider on a TT or SB. Conditions that were previously **** (small swell chop days) become a lush sweeet session.Imagine fangin above that hidious chop at twice the speed as your normal board charging upwind on a day you would normally do the walk of shame?
What Plummet said :) its a great stoke unlike the others which are also amazing. Love a TT on a windy day or in waves, love a foil on not so windy days. Its a feeling you have to work quite hard at to get but IMO - worth it
I must disclose that I am not affiliated with any Foiling companies, I am not sponsored or paid to say this.
It looks boring.
I must disclose that I am not affiliated with any Foiling companies, I am not sponsored or paid to say this.
It looks boring.
I thought so too before I tried it
I also think its funny how theres all different size and shaped boards for it. Again its something i know nothing about but it seams like the board doesnt ever go in the water so wtf?
Volume is good in lighter winds and for learning with the amount of touch downs that happen.
Multiple touchdowns? Really?
Sounds faaaaaannnntastic!
Please all just stay away from foiling. It is crap. I want to keep enjoying having places to myself while others sit on the beach just talking about kiting in 10-15 knots.
And it is funny like people tend to pigeon hole others. It is not that those who foil can only foil.
And foiling is where the money is? I don't think so. Money is made with kooks who are sold a kite they will quickly outgrow which is when they are sold another kite, and board.
I must disclose that I am not affiliated with any Foiling companies, I am not sponsored or paid to say this.
It looks boring.
I agree it does look boring. But how does it feel? Who cares what it looks like to others!...
I can tell you one thing. Foiling in 15 knots is powered and fast and the feels is a lot more fun that mowing the lawn on a door sized TT or SB.
I must disclose that I am not affiliated with any Foiling companies, I am not sponsored or paid to say this.
It looks boring.
Someone commented at my local " it's the roller blading of kiting"....
I'm all for it..... it's taken guys out of the lineup and put them out deep. 'Spread the load'. They also can take a ridiculous up wind tack, so 'shouldn't' end up on same path. Plus they are totally distracting and entertaining all the local sharks!
Hard to believe the hate for foiling. But some like their toast butter side up, others butter side down. Oh well. I don't try and convince anyone that this is the holy grail of kiting. I still prefer waves on a surfboard above it all. However, foiling is insane. Different feel, quiet, smooth and it puts me on the water on days where I would be home mowing the lawn...Try it for yourself, get through the ****ty 5 hours of pain learning, and then see what you think. You still might not like it, and that's okay too. It's why they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream.....(and a few other flavors in between.)
I enjoy going out and mowing the lawn for an hour or so on the local lake in ~10 knots before the arvo NE kicks in and I head for beach and a downwinder.
For me, the turning on the foil reminds me of doing turns on the face of a wave. Great sensation.
General rule of thumb is I am kiting an hour before everyone else at my local and it's fun.
Well - im not braggin but have been recently in 5 knots.. a late session and people rolling their eyes thinking, unbelievable !
Well - im not braggin but have been recently in 5 knots.. a late session and people rolling their eyes thinking, unbelievable !
What kite/foil Shave?
i think this is what makes kiteboarding amazing. you have so many different aspects of the sport you can play with, from foils, wake, surf, boost, skim, skate.
i have not tried it and really i cant wait, looks so smooth. sure i dont this ill be out there for 3 hours foiling but if you get bored, go grab another board.
this is just another adventure to go on and master.
I saw a vid of kai lenny surfing small ocean swell on one with no kite. That looked fun. Probably way harder than he makes it look tho. But getting towed behind a kite i dunno. Foils have been around for years and nobody cared about it now all of a sudden everybody is like omg its the best thing ever.
You should try it - I also am a convert - for certain conditions. I want to get into riding some swells & waves. I find it's a good way to blow the work stresses away. An hour on the water is priceless.
very addictive and never ending progression on a fast foil!
Try it!
Yeah if you're loaded $$$
There are three types of kiters now:
* the twin tip local (happy to just manage a jump or keep himself upwind),
* the landboard/buggy nazi (always grumpy for some reason - must be the small kite without depower syndrome),
* and the deep water foiler (laughs at everyone else cause he can go upwind, upside down, any which way in 5knots).
But I have to admit: once you try or have had a run on a foil - it is addictive and most likely you'll only want to go back to twin tips just for the jumps or tricks. But riding up the coast at 60km/hr or 30knots in 22knot winds - that's crazy but that's why it's addictive.
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But I have to admit: once you try or have had a run on a foil - it is addictive and most likely you'll only want to go back to twin tips just for the jumps or tricks. But riding up the coast at 60km/hr or 30knots in 22knot winds - that's crazy but that's why it's addictive.
Um yeh the only reason people kite on a twin tip is for jumps and tricks. Because riding without jumping or tricking is flippin boring. This is a big circle convo. Hahaha but im not sold. I dont care how far up wind or what angle i can tack. Unless im doing tricks. Trying to jump something or hit a rail or anything, its pointless. The riding around between tricks n jumps does nothing for me. i remember when supping first got popular people were like omg best thing ever. I was like looks boring. Tried it yep exactly as it looked. Hahaha yeh in the surf its probably ok but id go a longboard anyday.
very addictive and never ending progression on a fast foil!
Try it!
Yeah if you're loaded $$$
There are three types of kiters now:
* the twin tip local (happy to just manage a jump or keep himself upwind),
* the landboard/buggy nazi (always grumpy for some reason - must be the small kite without depower syndrome),
* and the deep water foiler (laughs at everyone else cause he can go upwind, upside down, any which way in 5knots).
Dammit. I'm all three of those kiting groups.
PS you forgot the strapless sb rider and the wake styler in boots crashing his kite all the time.
Never tried it so i dunno but to me it looks boring as bat sh!t. I get the learning part would be not so boring but seriously once your comfortable riding around is it honestly still fun? Or do people just do it because you can ride in hardly any wind? Seriously i recon id rather just go for a swim.
1. spend 3k$ on something
2. hurt yourself
3. eventually get the hang of it becuase you spent 3k$ n something
4. find it boreing but tell everyone its the future because you have to sell the damn thing now
5. claim its good for health because your market is unhealthy rich people
Because riding without jumping or tricking is flippin boring. This is a big circle convo. Hahaha but im not sold.
Good, don't foil.
Everyone is into something different, like Kemp & Dafish have said already.
I personally don't see any point in wakestyle, totally boring to me, but it won comps for a decade because it's technically difficult to land a triple spinny roll with double bar pass to blind. Even if it looks like every other wakestyle flippy spinny thing done 1m off the water. But I know other guys see that as the core of kiting, for them, so I don't see any point in knocking it. Whatever floats your boat.
But it's worth mentioning that there's a whole lot of styles of foiling emerging. Surf. Big air. Race. Speed (distinct from Race). Freestyle.
You can jump big because you have the ingredients: speed, load, and a built in ramp better than any TT pop.