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Great insight as usual STC. Im 98KG and have the 9'1 i dont find any dead spots on waves at all and infact find it works in all conditions OK. It does prefer faster steeper waves where the speed of the board is really noticeable. I was thinking of trying an 8'10 but there arent any demos available here. SO grabbed an 8'5 Surefire Degenerate, I think youll rip on the 9'1 when you get under 100KG.
Nug asked:
"Thank you for your informative reply! How would you compare the 8'10 speeed if you threw it into the mix?
How does it compare to stability? Obviously the 9'1 creek will be more stable.
Turning ability? Would it be something I can throw around as easy as my 9'1 creek?
If I was to take it out on the glassy days but with smaller fatter swell. Do you think the speed with parallel rails will glide and get onto waves a bit easier/quicker? Surely it would be quicker on the wave being narrow comapred to the 9'1 creek"
Creek vs Speeed for stability:
at equal volume, the Creek is a bit more stable
It really depends on what type of surfing you prefer.
The parallel rails of the Speeed are naturally fast, but I prefer the ability to make quick pumps down the line on a board with more rail curve like the Creeks and Acids.... IMO, narrow doesn't compare to quick pumps, for building speed.
You said you only ride from the middle when are in "cruisy" mode, so you may prefer the 8'10 Speeed in low power waves.
Both boards turn really well and I am sure you won't notice a lot of difference because they share the same tail.
It is really up to you, some people prefer the Speeed, some prefer the Creek.
totally agree with ya scotty...
i also think its the 31 wide and over 130 litre what makes for a easy ride .
I ride a 125 litre acid @97 kg but since have ordered a 131 litre and 31 wide bigger board for relaxing days .
i reckon you will get use to that 8'10 ,I Reckon i'm lining one up down the line ,
Such a good thread - really diggin' the input from all.
We're heading in to the monsoon season up here in Darwin and I'm keen to get a new board that'll handle the cyclone swells.
My 10'6 Style is sweeet for clean, offshore waves during the Dry Season, but I want something that'll handle a bit of boogie when the cyclone swells start rolling through, like below:
So, I was thinking something short like an 8'6 JL Super Frank at around 140 litres that I can throw around - but now thinking maybe a 9'4 Creek (also around 140 litres - give or take) might be a better option for my 100 kegs. It will give me stability and still get that shortboard response. I dunno. Or a Smik Spitfire.
Struth! Nice problem to have though eh!
Ha! Good on ya Tards'!
I was thinking about the 9'1 but then I read Creekmeister''s sage advice and think the 9'4 step-up might be the way to go.
As you know, we almost never get good quality, long period ground swells making it in to Darwin.
It's (nearly) always the onshore, wind-blown burgers (as per the above pics), so maybe the 9'4 could be the preferred option with good stability and still get some turns in.
The Creek said...
"Bottom line?
...Get a Creek, one size bigger than you think you want
It surfs so easily that a bit bigger adds to performance, not detract from it."
I've been saving my hard-earned and now I'm about that |--| close to ordering the new stick.
Cripes! It's nearly Friday and I reckon I'll find some divine (liquid) guidance tomorrow night. The Triple Crown starts next Monday at Haleiwa and the World Title's up for grabs - can Julian bring it home to OZ?!?
All these are surely good omens for a new Creek (and a cyclone swell to give the bugger a good run on!).
YeeW!!!
Hhhmmmm ..136 litre is still a good size board as far as float goes ..for your weight .
both would be good ...the 9.4 felt a little bigger in the nose ..for me ...but it really depends. What size you need as a step down from your other board ...I was happy with the 8.10 ..as the extra nose Rick put in the creeks made it so much easier to use ,and gave it a lot more stability than the other sunova range in it 125 litre range my 125 acid is way more rocky to ride .. ,it was a great idea .
i love the rocker line of the creek ,taken off the flow design ,but added a extra nose kick ,which I felt the 8,10 flow needed .the flow ,creek rocker line catch waves so easy ...
so you could take a steeper drop on the wave with the extra nose kick .I sure did take some beauties in the Maldives .
And it hung in there .
as all boards you learn to get better on them ...with time riding them ..I never thought ,I 'd be riding as small a board as I ride now ,but have hit my happy volume at 125 litres.acid and 120 flow on good days .for a 97 kg Dude .my soon to be 131 litre black acid will be my step up board...I can't wait for that ....
MangoDingo said:
"and the 9'4 is not much shorter than my current log (10'6 Style). The Style is pretty massive...."
You are correct, the Style 10'6 is massive, and fills a great need for longboard shapes for the big SUPsters....
However:
the 9'4 Creek is most definitely not at all similar in size.
Not comparable in any way, two entirely different shapes and surfability.
length is only a number..... so much more goes into performance.
I am 100 kg and love my 9'4 creek,real stable and amazing performance,wondered about the 9'1 when I bought it but am stoked on the 9'4,seems I have stopped looking for the magic board because I have found it all conditions,all good,love this board,it is a beauty,highly recommend,feels a lot smaller riding as it is easy to throw around and speed to burn,have ridden in all conditions and you can handle ankle slappers to double overhead,it's a gem
Agree STC ..thats what i told the wife...'length is only a number...so much more goes into performance !!! 
and had to take a leg rope off to get un stuck ,a big wave came and took Ti's JP
I'm around 95-98kegz and not a great surfer with infrequent sessions. I have the 9"1 creek and it rips took a bit to learn the board but glad I didn't go bigger..
i have just bought a surefire degenerate 8"5 at 135 lt ... wow took it out for first surf in absolute shocking conditions this is a keeper. Super stable, plenty of speed and drive, turns on a dime and took some big late drops I normally wouldn't have survived!!
Now have the perfect 2 board quiver .. 8"5 surefire and 9"1 creek anyone want a cheap 16 8"8 jp wide body ??
Mmm what next ??
Cheers BD -
They look like they'd go well in any conditions and stable.
Thats what I'm after - shortboard manouverability with stability and volume.
Top lookin' stick man - bet you'd be keen for some good waves to get it goin' in.
