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Intro video of the new Sunova "Creek" model

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Created by supthecreek > 9 months ago, 29 Jun 2017
toolate
107 posts
10 Nov 2018 3:24PM
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what size might i think about in a creek for someone 70kg, intermediate surfer, mostly to be used under head high?

FRP
494 posts
10 Nov 2018 8:53PM
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Hi Toolate,

I am 70 kg, 63 yo intermediate and surf up to head high beach break. I have the 8'7" 115 l Creek. Great board, floats me well, good stability. Would have been a mistake to go smaller for me. Likely would have been happy with the 8'10" also. Hope this narrows it down a bit for you. Cheers
Bob

Tardy
5024 posts
11 Nov 2018 4:12AM
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Hi too late ,I would also say as a intermediate ,go for 8.10 .

FRP is a very experienced rider

toolate
107 posts
11 Nov 2018 8:22AM
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thanks
my current board is JL 8'7 stun gun. great board once surf goes head high and up but smaller waves not quite enough juice ( or maybe i am just not skillfulenough)

Tardy
5024 posts
11 Nov 2018 11:36AM
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toolate said..
thanks
my current board is JL 8'7 stun gun. great board once surf goes head high and up but smaller waves not quite enough juice ( or maybe i am just not skillfulenough)


Sounds like the flatter rocker of the creek will serve you well then

Nugdam
QLD, 600 posts
11 Nov 2018 2:40PM
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This is the little trailer fin I run on my creek and flow. It makes the boards so fun especially if you like to slide. I find I can really slide the tail on my backside cut backs. So much fun! I've had it into about head high surf and is still very predictable.


I think I paid about 30$ for it on eBay. Well worth it if you want to loosen it up alot!


Tardy
5024 posts
9 Dec 2018 1:03PM
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I Was the trailing fin a couple of times in the MALDIVES .i used a 5 on the rear it was a lot better ,


this was a mad wave ,not many people made it around this section .it was ditch or end up on rocks .
I'm gonna buy a 8,10 next year ...to complete my quiver ..of sunovas

bomberdave
VIC, 400 posts
22 Dec 2018 1:21PM
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Can't wait to try out these bad boys on the creek ...


thegreatsup
529 posts
22 Dec 2018 3:31PM
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Anyone had both a creek and flash of similar size and can provide some feedback on the differences between them?
Stability, speed, turning etc?

supthecreek
2616 posts
24 Dec 2018 10:43AM
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bomberdave said..
Can't wait to try out these bad boys on the creek ...



Hi Dave, that center may make it too stiff, since the channels really give it sticking power.
Check out Nug's tiny center fin above, to loosen the tail a bit.
Mixed with those C-Drives in the sides seems a good combo.

bomberdave
VIC, 400 posts
24 Dec 2018 2:10PM
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Hi rick,
Got out finally with the new c-drives in the creek. Man ..what a difference, so much more drive, speed seemed better, held the face really well and seemed easier to turn from the middle of the board. Best fin set up Ive tried so far, not sure Ill change them ever!!

DHUSOUTH
WA, 121 posts
24 Dec 2018 11:53AM
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toolate said..
what size might i think about in a creek for someone 70kg, intermediate surfer, mostly to be used under head high?

Gday Toolate

I currently have an 8.4 Creek @ 106lt ( 50yrs and 80kg)
Great board , great stability , my favourite
My other 2 boards are 8.3 & 8.5 around 110 lt and 115lt

If I was 70kg I would go a smaller board but depends greatly on the conditions you out in

808-Obsession
QLD, 440 posts
24 Dec 2018 3:10PM
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supthecreek said..

bomberdave said..
Can't wait to try out these bad boys on the creek ...



Hi Dave, that center may make it too stiff, since the channels really give it sticking power.
Check out Nug's tiny center fin above, to loosen the tail a bit.
Mixed with those C-Drives in the sides seems a good combo.


Heya Rick,

Merry Christmas to you! Do you reckon the same applies to the Speeed given the same channels?

Happyhaydo
NSW, 79 posts
12 Jan 2019 1:57PM
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Hey STC could you give me some advice on the creek , I'm going to sell my flow and look for something else
I'm 75 kg 5,7 height intermediate, what size creek would be comfortable with performance

mike3217
VIC, 62 posts
12 Jan 2019 7:46PM
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keep the flow Mate you will regret letting it go

mike3217
VIC, 62 posts
12 Jan 2019 7:46PM
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keep the flow Mate you will regret letting it go

supthecreek
2616 posts
13 Jan 2019 4:47PM
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Hey STC could you give me some advice on the creek , I'm going to sell my flow and look for something else
I'm 75 kg 5,7 height intermediate, what size creek would be comfortable with performance


Hhd.... be happy to!
what size Flow do you ride now?

supthecreek
2616 posts
13 Jan 2019 4:51PM
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808-Obsession said..


supthecreek said..



bomberdave said..
Can't wait to try out these bad boys on the creek ...





Hi Dave, that center may make it too stiff, since the channels really give it sticking power.
Check out Nug's tiny center fin above, to loosen the tail a bit.
Mixed with those C-Drives in the sides seems a good combo.




Heya Rick,

Merry Christmas to you! Do you reckon the same applies to the Speeed given the same channels?



oops.... I missed this one over the Holidays!

Yes.... a smaller center really loosens up the tail on both boards.
I almost always use a smaller center fin these days, unless it get big and juicy.

Creeking Portugal.... with smaller center fin




Happyhaydo
NSW, 79 posts
13 Jan 2019 10:04PM
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Thx STC I was riding a custom flow
122 l 8.5 31.5 wide but honestly stuck on 3 boards worried bout stability on acid so thought a 8,10 would help with stability. Are acids that bad mate to stand on?
The creek I like the sound of it
or a 8,5 speed call me confused ??

supthecreek
2616 posts
14 Jan 2019 5:55AM
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Hi Happyhd

You asked... so here we go!

I have been working on this, but decided I need more info.
To insure best advice, I really need to know what you like/don't like about your custom.
How stability compares to performance etc.
and what you want from your next board.

Your ordered your custom FLOW a lot wider than stock.
Your volume puts your "weight to volume" ratio at a very floaty 1.62

Was that because you place a premium value stability?
Is your FLOW easy or just about right?

You seem to want to ride a shorter length.
Is that strictly for performance?
I think your X-wide FLOW would really neutralize any benefits of a shorter board.

I want to make sure that you end up with the performance and stability that will make you very happy!

You threw me a bit with the mention of the 8'5 SPEEED.....because it's only 27.5" wide and only 112 liters
That is going to be way less stable than your custom FLOW.

Please give me any info that will help me give the best advice!!

General thoughts on the different design comforts... and how they compare (for me personally):
The FLOW is wide mid to tail, so it is a very stable board in general.
I can ride my 8'10 at 107 kg + winter gear

The ACID is very thin in nose and tail.
While it is reasonably wide in the middle, it needs good skills if you want to go short.
I can't ride my 9'4 in winter gear

The CREEK was my answer to ACID type performance, in full winter gear.
While not a "stability" board, it has a lot of "stability tools" built in to it that make it reasonably stable for a performance board.
I widened the nose and tail and added some foam, to keep them from dipping under as fast as the ACID.
I easily ride my 9'4 in full winter gear

Thoughts on performance (for me personally):

Going short doesn't always mean performance
My 9'4 ACID is much higher performance than my 8'10 FLOW
My 9'4 CREEK is much higher performance than my 8'10 FLOW

I put all the dims together so you can see how they compare side by side:
I put your numbers (in red )next to the CREEK and ACID sizes that would be similar stability to your custom FLOW
I didn't use volume as the important factor.... I used width, because you could go a lot less volume and be fine (IMO)

These are not recommendations.... they simply indicate boards with similar stability to your current FLOW
By numbers alone, you should be ok on:
8'4 to 8'7 CREEK 1.4 to 1.53 w/v
8'7 to 8'10 ACID 1.41 to 1.54 w/v

This is where your answers on stability of your custom FLOW come in.





bomberdave
VIC, 400 posts
14 Jan 2019 3:02PM
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STC Had a fun little session on the creek this morning. Only ankle/knee slappers but good clean fun!!!! Im on the 9'1 (53 & 97kegs) running with the Quobba fins at the mo. Was catching plenty, infact as many if not more than guys on their 10' boards. In fact I would even say it I was catching more than a mate on his 9'6 steeze. Certainly was faster than the steeze once on a wave....So the creek will handle the small stuff well too. Was having a blast with the small fins and really ripping the tail around, sliding it.... never been able to do this before.... PURE MAGIC CREEKY...... Hope your feeling the love in portugal.

Happyhaydo
NSW, 79 posts
14 Jan 2019 8:35PM
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Thx STC your a legend mate
your creek is really taking my attention just due to it can handle a range of conditions, I think the flow was just a bit floaty and was to easy
defininatly want performance
I think I'd be fine dropping down in width I am a realist and believe you have to be comfortable waiting for waves specially beach breaks .i think I'll rule out the acid and save for creek and speed they both seem great boards I've watched all the videos !!

Echobch
14 posts
2 Feb 2019 9:18AM
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What fins are you guys using in the creek ? The ones that come with it are too large. Thanks

FRP
494 posts
2 Feb 2019 11:47AM
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Echobch said..
What fins are you guys using in the creek ? The ones that come with it are too large. Thanks


Hi

8'7" Creek with Quoba fins. I like them when it is a bit bigger, shoulder to head high. On softer waves not so much.

Bob

bomberdave
VIC, 400 posts
2 Feb 2019 3:02PM
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X2 ..9'1 creek old fat guy here ... but using in all conditions the quobba fins, however I havent had the quobbas out in big surf yet, when I did i used CDrives and loved them...

Echobch
14 posts
3 Feb 2019 12:25AM
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I wish I could get Cdrives.

FRP
494 posts
3 Feb 2019 2:47AM
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Echobch said..
I wish I could get Cdrives.


Hi Echo

I echo your sentiment. I have relatives that are going to Melbourne next December for a couple of months. Hopefully I can arrange to have them pick up some Cdrive fins then. There was a time years ago that one of my local surf shops here in Canada carried them but no longer. They were marketed as big wave fins. I do wonder if they are particularly suited to sup surfing. The problem with fins is once you find fins that you like and have a couple of sets.......they last forever.....well many years.

Bob

Echobch
14 posts
3 Feb 2019 9:45AM
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Bob, how do you like the Quobba fins ?

FRP
494 posts
3 Feb 2019 10:53AM
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Bob, how do you like the Quobba fins ?

I like them once I get them up to speed. I am going to switch them onto my 8'10" Speeed which might be a better match.

Bob

AgBak
24 posts
29 Apr 2019 6:39PM
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Hi All

I was hoping for a little help and advice please.

52 yo guy, 6'3", 95kg (weight only likely to go up) surfs mainly beach breaks in the UK. However I'm fortunate to be able to travel. In the last 4 years I've surfed in the Seychelles, Costa Rica, France, Morocco and WA. I'm currently using a Starboard 9'5" widepoint which has been a great board, but no good to travel with and now feels a little dated.

As far as skill level goes, looking at the posts on here, I'm a rank amature . I am a weekend warrior. However I can stand, paddle and catch waves in my own unique style (happy in OH surf). I'm no ballet dancer..... front foot planted on the stringer, back weighting the rail as needed (this takes a lot with the WP), being tall I can get on the tail by widening my stance.

I only really have the option of 1 board (to most of you on here...... I'm sorry!!) I'll be in WA January 2020, so thought I'd take the opportunity to buy my next sled.

So my questions are. Do I go for a Creek? Is it to focused to be my only board. I'd really like to, but have no way of riding 1 in the UK. If I do: 9'4" or 9'1" (I'm aware of the advice to go 1 size up). I'd also like your thoughts/experience of the 2 piece construction? The ability to take my own board and not rent would be fantastic.

thanks



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