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SUP at Noosa Surf Festival

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Created by Swanie > 9 months ago, 3 Mar 2013
RJK
QLD, 622 posts
11 Mar 2013 6:04PM
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Position Competitor Time
1 Jake Jensen 29:42
2 Andy Davies 29:50
3 Paul Jackson 30:37
4 Peter Dorries 31:45
5 Beau O'Brian 32:10
6 Chase Kasterlitz 32:19
7 Marcel De Paula 32:47
8 Paul Jones 32:57
9 Steve Walker 33:02
10 Ryan Keck 33:10
11 Dale Chapman 33:33
12 Beau Nixon 33:51
13 Tatsuni Kawai 35:14
14 Wayne Johnstone 35:26
15 Chris Carter 36:06
16 Johnathon Walker 37:19
17 Paul Mackie 38:09
18 Mathew Colefax 38:19
19 Brenden Clark 39:19
20 Dylan Magee 43:11
21 Scott Corrigan 43:47
22 Mark Frischkorn NF

SurfTech 5km SUP Ocean Paddle
- Junior's Results -
Position Competitor Time
1 Mathew Nottage 36:12

SurfTech 5km SUP Ocean Paddle
- Women's Results -
Position Competitor Time
1 Sandra Purser 36:03
2 Molly Walker 36:23
3 Nicole Klink 41:11
4 Susan Dorries 43:12
5 Jayne Ryeland NF
6 Alison Krone NF

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
11 Mar 2013 6:20PM
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www.noosafestivalofsurfing.com/

complete results here surfing included

JonesySUP
QLD, 872 posts
11 Mar 2013 8:56PM
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I'm a little confused and very disappointed with the number of paddlers that competed in this years Noosa BOP race.
It's arguably the best venue in the world to have a BOP race, its spectacular amphitheater and with one to two thousand people watching its bloody Australia's best!!!!
It only cost $44 dollars and you got a Tshirt and goodie bag.
Come on SUP'ers tell me why you didn't go??
I would love to spark up a debate and see why this wasn't MASSIVE!!!!!

Cheers Jonesy

PS....For the paddlers that competed, WOW that was the best!!!, surfing 2-3 foot first point on your 12'6 race board with no surfers in the water for one hour "Priceless"

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
11 Mar 2013 9:11PM
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Great event for sure , my thoughts sunday arvo for one !if it was a saturday or even early sunday morning those that travel can book accomidation sat night race in the morning.racing in the afternoon then having to drive home after racing is a bit hard.

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
11 Mar 2013 9:18PM
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teatrea said...
Great event for sure , my thoughts sunday arvo for one !if it was a saturday or even early sunday morning those that travel can book accomidation sat night race in the morning.racing in the afternoon then having to drive home after racing is a bit hard.


I was thinking the conditions and high tide early would have better suited the racing and would have allowed better waves for the sup surfing

Adapt
QLD, 723 posts
11 Mar 2013 9:23PM
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JonesySUP said...
I'm a little confused and very disappointed with the number of paddlers that competed in this years Noosa BOP race.
It's arguably the best venue in the world to have a BOP race, its spectacular amphitheater and with one to two thousand people watching its bloody Australia's best!!!!
It only cost $44 dollars and you got a Tshirt and goodie bag.
Come on SUP'ers tell me why you didn't go??
I would love to spark up a debate and see why this wasn't MASSIVE!!!!!

Cheers Jonesy

PS....For the paddlers that competed, WOW that was the best!!!, surfing 2-3 foot first point on your 12'6 race board with no surfers in the water for one hour "Priceless"


Not everyone is into BOP style races or owns a 12'6

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
11 Mar 2013 9:27PM
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Adapt said...
JonesySUP said...
I'm a little confused and very disappointed with the number of paddlers that competed in this years Noosa BOP race.
It's arguably the best venue in the world to have a BOP race, its spectacular amphitheater and with one to two thousand people watching its bloody Australia's best!!!!
It only cost $44 dollars and you got a Tshirt and goodie bag.
Come on SUP'ers tell me why you didn't go??
I would love to spark up a debate and see why this wasn't MASSIVE!!!!!

Cheers Jonesy

PS....For the paddlers that competed, WOW that was the best!!!, surfing 2-3 foot first point on your 12'6 race board with no surfers in the water for one hour "Priceless"


Not everyone is into BOP style races or owns a 12'6


If not bops then what? Bops are the ultimate downwinders as your surf real waves not just chop?

I'm also confused why 12'6 wouldn't be in everyone's quiver if not the only race board. I find they are more fun down winding, surf better, are cheaper and smaller so easier to handle and store????

paul.j
QLD, 3331 posts
11 Mar 2013 9:34PM
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One thing to look at first is in your own back yard! 15 out of the 30 were from outside the sunny coast

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
11 Mar 2013 9:40PM
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paul.j said...
One thing to look at first is in your own back yard! 15 out of the 30 were from outside the sunny coast




Pj posted the same question to our club so it's not an attack against you jacko, just an enquiry in order to manage success of future events

Also keep in mind the sup race community on the coast is less than 1/10 of the gold coast

camo hosk
VIC, 613 posts
11 Mar 2013 10:55PM
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JonesySUP said...
I'm a little confused and very disappointed with the number of paddlers that competed in this years Noosa BOP race.
It's arguably the best venue in the world to have a BOP race, its spectacular amphitheater and with one to two thousand people watching its bloody Australia's best!!!!
It only cost $44 dollars and you got a Tshirt and goodie bag.
Come on SUP'ers tell me why you didn't go??
I would love to spark up a debate and see why this wasn't MASSIVE!!!!!

Cheers Jonesy

PS....For the paddlers that competed, WOW that was the best!!!, surfing 2-3 foot first point on your 12'6 race board with no surfers in the water for one hour "Priceless"



Might be because there's people that buy a SUP and are happy to just paddle around on the lake ,river ,ocean and don't feel any need to compete in an event?,
bit like a sup'r who likes throwing dishpan turns free surfing and has no need to enter a contest to be judged whether there's enough rail in the turn or not

Swanie
QLD, 1372 posts
11 Mar 2013 10:02PM
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Not sure why but to start debate do you think age divisions would help numbers???
I entered but withdrew on the day with the flu. Disappointed to have missed such great conditions.

Adapt
QLD, 723 posts
11 Mar 2013 10:03PM
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RJK said...
Adapt said...
JonesySUP said...
I'm a little confused and very disappointed with the number of paddlers that competed in this years Noosa BOP race.
It's arguably the best venue in the world to have a BOP race, its spectacular amphitheater and with one to two thousand people watching its bloody Australia's best!!!!
It only cost $44 dollars and you got a Tshirt and goodie bag.
Come on SUP'ers tell me why you didn't go??
I would love to spark up a debate and see why this wasn't MASSIVE!!!!!

Cheers Jonesy

PS....For the paddlers that competed, WOW that was the best!!!, surfing 2-3 foot first point on your 12'6 race board with no surfers in the water for one hour "Priceless"


Not everyone is into BOP style races or owns a 12'6


If not bops then what? Bops are the ultimate downwinders as your surf real waves not just chop?

I'm also confused why 12'6 wouldn't be in everyone's quiver if not the only race board. I find they are more fun down winding, surf better, are cheaper and smaller so easier to handle and store????


Sorry just have no real interest in competing in BOP racing. But I like watching it

As for the 12'6 not everyone can afford to have every style of board. I'd prefer to have a 14 due to my size, weight, fitness level and what I'm more likely going to use the board for. I'd love a shed full of boards but that's a dream, maybe one day

Adapt
QLD, 723 posts
11 Mar 2013 10:10PM
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Swanie said...
Not sure why but to start debate do you think age divisions would help numbers???
I entered but withdrew on the day with the flu. Disappointed to have missed such great conditions.


Where do you draw the line? Age, weight and skill level all play a factor in the sport.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
11 Mar 2013 8:17PM
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Two divisions may help.

Most of the guys and girls that entered would be in the elite class I guess,the average punted would not enter because they would get lapped,why not have elite and novice divisions.

Just an idea,same if I was invited to one of the training camps here I wouldn't go for this reason,hope that helps.

E T
QLD, 2286 posts
11 Mar 2013 10:23PM
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I am afraid that I have to agree with Camo. Not everyone wants to race or compete. I am a regular Noosa surfer and paddler. As soon as the Noosa Festival is gearing up I stay as far away from it as I can get. I am one of many local paddlers who don't like the hype. For a lot of people paddling and surfing, whether SUP or other is not about competition and all the fanfair that goes with it. This may not be the answer you guys want to hear. I was one of the first SUPers on the north end of the coast and still paddle as often as I can whether ocean, flat or surf. But like the other paddlers I know I have no interest in competitions like this. There are a lots of good paddlers out there but comps aren't their thing.
ET.

Al Hunter
NSW, 367 posts
11 Mar 2013 11:26PM
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JonesySUP said...
I'm a little confused and very disappointed with the number of paddlers that competed in this years Noosa BOP race.
It's arguably the best venue in the world to have a BOP race, its spectacular amphitheater and with one to two thousand people watching its bloody Australia's best!!!!
It only cost $44 dollars and you got a Tshirt and goodie bag.
Come on SUP'ers tell me why you didn't go??
I would love to spark up a debate and see why this wasn't MASSIVE!!!!!

Cheers Jonesy

PS....For the paddlers that competed, WOW that was the best!!!, surfing 2-3 foot first point on your 12'6 race board with no surfers in the water for one hour "Priceless"


I came 2 years ago and the start has been postponed all morning ( almost 4 hours if I remember) because obviously the bop race was not a priority for the organisers that day. Results have never been posted nowhere after the race ever.
But for the public it was very successfull with a fantastic finish between kelly and travis, so I thought the organisers understood it could be popular and next year will be different.
I came last year. Basically same thing, very hard to get the results in you were not in the top 5.
So I just told myself Noosa BOP race won't be a priority anymore for me because they made me feel they don't care.
Just the opposit of the coolum BOP race that was good the 1st year and good again the 2nd year. Of course I will go back in 2013 to support them !

KylieJ
QLD, 96 posts
12 Mar 2013 8:35AM
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I would love to compete but cannot afford another board specifically a 12'6 race board. I do agree that there should be a novice race as well im not good enough (yet). Im happy if someone woukd like to donate me a race board!! But cant see that happening. Anyway enjoy the paddle on my way out now.

paul.j
QLD, 3331 posts
12 Mar 2013 10:30AM
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Please don't take any of this to heart but you have asked for feed back and why this event has gotten smaller and what makes a good event, well here's my take on it and some ideas from my point.

A few of the guys above have hit the nail on the head with some of there points. I was not going to do this comp either after going to it the last 2 or so years and leaving a little disappointed but thought i would give it one more chance and sorry to say i was still not overly impressed.

Things i picked up on.

Feels like the SUP is not really a big part of the event, no where in the name of the event is SUP mentioned yet it pretty much takes up a whole day of the comp. The race although was fun and it is great to get waves on the point with a race sup seemed unorganized with just simple things like have a course map for people to look at or having decent sized turning buoys.
If you want more numbers you need to have age groups as not everyone wants to race against Beau or Jake!! most people just want to have fun and getting put in the same group with the guys and girls that train every day is a bit rough.

If you call up the top 3 guys then at least call the top 3 girls up as well, maybe have some encouragement awards try and get people stoked to come to a event!!

This next one is a bit touche but here goes.
PRIZES!!! come on really!! with all the sponsors around at that event you are telling me that someone could not get a box of leg ropes or some board covers or something? It is NOT that hard i have done it on many occasions and really it is not that hard. Good on Quiver Caddy for what they did but what was there was not a real effort. To me it still feels like we are just being tacked on to a long board event and just another way for them to make a bit more money.

Why are none of the local shops involved? if you want numbers then that should be your first point of contact if nothing else they should be able to help you get better prizes and i'm not talking about giving the top guys more by the way more about giving back to the people who make this sport happen!!

Alot of the time it's just getting the little things right and building on that and this goes right back to listening to some people who might know more about certain things EG: The inside buoy, i'm pretty sure 2 or 3 people told the course guy that it would move if it was put in the waves and sure enough at the race sure enough it moved!! not a big deal but it's all about getting the small things right.

With all the events on these days everyone has to really lift their act if they want to get the numbers, do things a little different.

Flame suit on

Jacko

skebstebamal
QLD, 579 posts
12 Mar 2013 11:12AM
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My no show was a clash with MX race, otherwise would have been for sure...... but i will say, most people including my self run 14 foot boards on sunny coast not 12'6. so i can understand why there are not more people in it.

its easy when u have a van full of boards at over 2k a pop to wonder why others dont show. I for one cant afford every class board and wont be buying a 12'6 (as much as i would love to have one).

I think there is a real mix of boards being used, and while the 12'6 seems to be the current pick for elites for ease of travel or whatever.... for most novices like myself, we predominantly train in flat water and time trials so we go 14.

i also noteon seabreeze when people ask 12'6 or 14 nearly everyone yells 14.

Big Sean
QLD, 93 posts
12 Mar 2013 1:55PM
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I read with interest what has been written above and how its a great venue but certain things are lacking to make it a fantastic event.

We run the ALSO at Kingscliff beginning next week. We have done what we can to accommodate the SUPs into both the surfing and racing part of our event(and have supported SUPs since 2007) and given the BOP major time placement on the Sunday. All competitors get a competitors bag with a spot prize plus thanks to Illusions @ Noosa we have 2 SUPs to be given away to lucky SUP competitors. (You must be present at the preso to win.) Everyone says they are supporting the event and we have put a lot of time & effort into making this a quality event for the SUP's. However we need the SUP community to support the event and put in their entrys.

JonesySUP
QLD, 872 posts
12 Mar 2013 5:32PM
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All interesting and valid comments.

I've got no involvement in the Noosa event so I'm hoping the organizers are reading this and the other post I've put out there.

The thing is, I love the Sunny Coast and think the Noosa Comp has something special and could be a world class event.

It's cool if you don't like racing we all get into this sport for different reasons, but the thing that puzzles me is if you added up all the 12'6 race boards sold from the Sunny Coast to NSW over the last two years I would be guessing 300-400?? I could be wrong. Surely the number of competitors would reflect that.

I'm sure some people buy a race board to feel the glide paddling down their local river and to help with core strength, stress release and fitness, but the others must be keen to race?

Maybe "racing is a wank" ?

But for me I love racing because of the following : it motivates me to get super fit. I enjoy training with mates, I love setting goals, beating the guy that beat me in the last race, meeting friends at race events, feeling pre race nerves, that buzz at the start line, getting that adrenaline hit, climbing over that wall pre-race, hearing my little kids cheer me on, racing next to an elite athlete, the achievement of just finishing, beating the groms, winning the old farts division, betting Steve and Peasie, after race chats, post race buzz, post post race fatigue, that sweet tasting first beer, watching all the smiles when someone wins a leg rope in the raffle, new goal setting, next day training.

Plus I don't think its just Noosa declining in numbers??

Another thing that stood out was only that their was one junior paddler, no development of young guns in any sport means a limited time span for the sport!

I'm interested to see the numbers in the Kingscliff comp, Xcel race, Qld titles this year and other comps around Aust. Here's hoping a swell of fresh competitors are on the horizon.



Deano72
NSW, 540 posts
12 Mar 2013 6:46PM
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JonesySUP said...

Plus I don't think its just Noosa declining in numbers?? another thing that stood out was only that their was one junior paddler, no development of young guns in any sport means a limited time span for the sport!
I'm interested to see the numbers in the Kingscliff comp, Xcel race, Qld titles this year and other comps around Aust. Here's hoping a swell of fresh competitors are on the horizon.



At least you guys got to have a race!!....and the conditions looked unreal.
Believe it or not the Vicco State Titles BOP race was cancelled due to lack of participation.....apparently 9 people is not enough entries to warrant running a race for State team slection [}:)][}:)]
Big shame
There are other threads going on at the moment that probably offer some good reasons why crew are not turning up to races

Sondra
NSW, 28 posts
12 Mar 2013 7:02PM
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JonesySUP said...
All interesting and valid comments.

I've got no involvement in the Noosa event so I'm hoping the organizers are reading this and the other post I've put out there.

The thing is, I love the Sunny Coast and think the Noosa Comp has something special and could be a world class event.

It's cool if you don't like racing we all get into this sport for different reasons, but the thing that puzzles me is if you added up all the 12'6 race boards sold from the Sunny Coast to NSW over the last two years I would be guessing 300-400?? I could be wrong. Surely the number of competitors would reflect that.

I'm sure some people buy a race board to feel the glide paddling down their local river and to help with core strength, stress release and fitness, but the others must be keen to race?

Maybe "racing is a wank" ?

But for me I love racing because of the following : it motivates me to get super fit. I enjoy training with mates, I love setting goals, beating the guy that beat me in the last race, meeting friends at race events, feeling pre race nerves, that buzz at the start line, getting that adrenaline hit, climbing over that wall pre-race, hearing my little kids cheer me on, racing next to an elite athlete, the achievement of just finishing, beating the groms, winning the old farts division, betting Steve and Peasie, after race chats, post race buzz, post post race fatigue, that sweet tasting first beer, watching all the smiles when someone wins a leg rope in the raffle, new goal setting, next day training.

Plus I don't think its just Noosa declining in numbers??

Another thing that stood out was only that their was one junior paddler, no development of young guns in any sport means a limited time span for the sport!

I'm interested to see the numbers in the Kingscliff comp, Xcel race, Qld titles this year and other comps around Aust. Here's hoping a swell of fresh competitors are on the horizon.






Jonsey, you are 100% all over it.. There is not enough support in regards to the number of paddlers that do love to have a race. The sport need people like yourself and alot of us that feel as you do in how you express how you feel about SUP Racing. I don't tend to say alot on here but, i have travelled overseas alot for big events now enough to know that Australia can be just as big. People do need to grasp what it is all about, its your mates that you want to beat, its that beer after, that i know i love, its meeting new people and its accomplishing something for yourself in why you bought a 12'6 and why you train in the mornings.. Noosa, is a fantastic place, the organises definitly dont give us the time of day and there should be no parking meter men booking us on such a huge event site but, it is alot of fun i will always attend as it is an awesome feeling to enjoy a sport for know one else but yourself, i think people forget that!!!

Swanie
QLD, 1372 posts
12 Mar 2013 6:25PM
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Making an event that caters for all is the big key. The elite group is a small group in any competition none the less an important group. Though their numbers do not lend to the growth of events or the successful marketing of events with running costs. For the sport to grow it must attract more to participate. This can not be obtained by pitching all against the best each time and expecting the 90%ers to just keep turning up.

Looking at any sport structure to develop a high pyramid you need a large base.

Here are some ideas that might attract more. Not taking away from the importance of having the main race for the elite but just ideas so there are more steps to the elite race and not just a giant leap from a novice. Also catering for those whose age eliminates them from the elite though still have a desire to compete at their peer level.

1. Age groups divisions so that there is interest and recognition at all levels.
2. Different length races for either ability or age. We did similar to this at Coolum and then used it as a qualifier to the elite group.
3. Handicapped events that push the elite but allow the others a chance.
4. Novel events at the comp that may be attached to prizes so anyone might win something.
5. Allowing shops and distributors to set up at the events to showcase their wares and run demos. This may also offset the cost if a small fee was charged. By having a sole sponsor you can prevent this. Can be a catch 22 situation. This event had large sponsorship from one supplier and as such others understandably could not set up displays. I love attending events that have all types on display and for demo. I personally would go out of my way to go to these events to test all gear in the one spot. We did this last year with great success at the Lake Kawana.
6. Junior specific races. From short distance micro from events etc. etc. This leads to a family event.
7. Maybe divisions instead of age. A, B, C, D etc. this is bigger picture stuff and would need monitoring from race to race. Newbies could come and smash a lower division but from then on would be classed up???

Not saying these are the answers but just something to brain storm about. If there is a decline in racers after the initial splash of interest then doing the same each time and expecting growth does not seem the best idea.

I am sure there are many other ideas out there better than mine. Post them if you have some regardless if you think it is silly as someone else may take part of your idea and come up with something great.
Brainstorm as a collective group.

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
12 Mar 2013 7:11PM
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it annoys me when people say "I don't compete because there is a good"elite" paddler and there's no way I can beat him". There is no way I will ever beat the likes of jake, Kelly, travis, beau, jacko (and probly even dorries after seeing his performance) yet I still do every race cause of the stoke!!

On event organisation, if you want a world standard event to model, just talk to Peasie. All his races are epic!!!!! Fun for all!!!

kissa
NSW, 523 posts
12 Mar 2013 10:18PM
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Go Andy. What a comeback

Gassa
QLD, 272 posts
12 Mar 2013 9:26PM
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all I can say is its a mal event and lets leave it that way ,

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
12 Mar 2013 7:42PM
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Gassa said...
all I can say is its a mal event and lets leave it that way ,


Well I got to agree with that one,sorry guys but bagging the organisers for not been given the time of day,wake up your lucky to get a start in this comp which has a rich history.Water your own garden and don't use pest control

Every year you complain.

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
12 Mar 2013 9:57PM
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62mac said...
Gassa said...
all I can say is its a mal event and lets leave it that way ,


Well I got to agree with that one,sorry guys but bagging the organisers for not been given the time of day,wake up your lucky to get a start in this comp which has a rich history.Water your own garden and don't use pest control

Every year you complain.




Dont worry Mac we will let the mal riders tag along to our events one day

Look to Europe to see what they are doing , races on inflatables races catering for all levels.I think most of you come from surfing background or clubbie backgrounds so surf races and downwinders appeal to you maybee , but i think more should be done on flat water races , look at the numbers that train or just paddle on flat water , a lot of people particuarly beginners are attracted to this. Also the sport can then be spread into inland areas. The Noosa thing could have just been because people where away a bad day to have it ect ect.I think flat water racing is where the numbers will be

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
12 Mar 2013 10:59PM
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kissa said...
Go Andy. What a comeback


Second that!



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