Select to expand quoteCobra said..
Ok I will play with this one,, I think the golden rule here is in LISTENING TO YOUR SHAPER.
i could say going to a shaping bay, is like going to a brothel .
Just because you go there a lot dont mean your good at it
Epic
Yeah volume is pretty important and you do see a lot of guys riding shorties with too little volume but then you also see a lot of guys that are struggling with too much width at the rail line and a lot of boards that just seem to have the volume distributed in really weird places...
I love having guys in the water around me surfing boards with too little volume, more waves for me. 
I love having guys in the water around me semi-floating boards that don't have enough surface area, more waves for me.
Well I discovered yesterday that my 906 x 23 x 3 1/8 board is the perfect blend best surf in over a year.Its loves a mid to going high tide wave anything lower there is a better board to ride.All in the rocker.
Select to expand quotevanders1 said..
I love having guys in the water around me surfing boards with too little volume, more waves for me. Thats what happens when too many people take advice from the local 16 yo shreader that works at the local board store.
Select to expand quoteLocky24 said...vanders1 said..
I love having guys in the water around me surfing boards with too little volume, more waves for me. Thats what happens when too many people take advice from the local 16 yo shreader that works at the local board store.
Or listens to all the board experts in the carpark.... Never shaped a board in their lives,I catch way more waves than them.......and they still want to tell me I'm riding the wrong board
Select to expand quotechrispy said..Locky24 said...vanders1 said..
I love having guys in the water around me surfing boards with too little volume, more waves for me. Thats what happens when too many people take advice from the local 16 yo shreader that works at the local board store.
Or listens to all the board experts in the carpark.... Never shaped a board in their lives,I catch way more waves than them.......and they still want to tell me I'm riding the wrong board
Yeah the last conversation I had with the shaper resulted in him suggesting I don't reduce the volume as much as what I was suggesting, who am I to argue.........
NSelect to expand quoteTractorguy said..
Everyones all over this but IMO Yeh it is when your 3 digits in weight and 6' 3 the extra volume /weight helps with entry speed. If your surfin points and you have a touch more time and you have a need for speed the more the better. You surfin challenging beach break then less volume through the tail , square/pin depending off your taste, square for me, and a bit lighter all over. same length. each to their own anyways eh.
Good post
Select to expand quotevanders1 said..chrispy said..Locky24 said...vanders1 said..
I love having guys in the water around me surfing boards with too little volume, more waves for me. Thats what happens when too many people take advice from the local 16 yo shreader that works at the local board store.
Or listens to all the board experts in the carpark.... Never shaped a board in their lives,I catch way more waves than them.......and they still want to tell me I'm riding the wrong board
Yeah the last conversation I had with the shaper resulted in him suggesting I don't reduce the volume as much as what I was suggesting, who am I to argue.........
Guilty of been a carpark expert venue was the coffee club and if I recall the conversation we were discussing a more HP board than your current Whalebone.
A couple questions
When was the last time the shapers saw you surf?
Your a hell of a lot lighter than you were when your current WB was made for you?
Whats the difference in volume and dims between your HL verses the HL?
Vanders time to go wild IMHO
I know you love your Whalebone but your a totally different guy than you were back then.
Your a tall bugger908 x ? x ? would be a good start and as I said pull the tail in as well as the nose.
I'd be happy if SDR named this new model The Fang Machine
Expert advise maybe not but those questions need to be asked.
Yesterday I lent a bloke a board after seeing his a week ago. Today he bought a different but very similar board off me (the one I sold was a different shapers take on the first one). After surfing these two boards over the last two days he now reckons he has been riding the wrong volumes (too little) for many years. He is now paddling onto the waves and surfing rather than flopping around as a bit of green swell passes him by.
Bit of it anyway. She Who Must Be Obeyed was pretty happy. Only another 32 in the shed to go.
Select to expand quotethedrip said..
Bit of it anyway. She Who Must Be Obeyed was pretty happy. Only another 32 in the shed to go.
Sounds like you need to do a quiver shot for us
Select to expand quoteMacaha said...vanders1 said..chrispy said..Locky24 said...vanders1 said..
I love having guys in the water around me surfing boards with too little volume, more waves for me. Thats what happens when too many people take advice from the local 16 yo shreader that works at the local board store.
Or listens to all the board experts in the carpark.... Never shaped a board in their lives,I catch way more waves than them.......and they still want to tell me I'm riding the wrong board
Yeah the last conversation I had with the shaper resulted in him suggesting I don't reduce the volume as much as what I was suggesting, who am I to argue.........
Guilty of been a carpark expert venue was the coffee club and if I recall the conversation we were discussing a more HP board than your current Whalebone.
A couple questions
When was the last time the shapers saw you surf?
Your a hell of a lot lighter than you were when your current WB was made for you?
Whats the difference in volume and dims between your HL verses the HL?
Vanders time to go wild IMHO
I know you love your Whalebone but your a totally different guy than you were back then.
Your a tall bugger908 x ? x ? would be a good start and as I said pull the tail in as well as the nose.
I'd be happy if SDR named this new model The Fang Machine
Expert advise maybe not but those questions need to be asked.
I have not laughed so much in ages
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..
Chrispy sometimes you have to put your hand up
I await a reply
Get a Mango up you champion 
Select to expand quoteTed the Kiwi said...thedrip said..
Bit of it anyway. She Who Must Be Obeyed was pretty happy. Only another 32 in the shed to go.
Sounds like you need to do a quiver shot for us
A lot aren't worth seeing. Badly creased, fins missing etc. I only have that many because I have only sold 3 boards since 1985. Getting 25% of the original purchase price always did my head in.
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..
vanders1 said..
chrispy said..
Locky24 said...
vanders1 said..
I love having guys in the water around me surfing boards with too little volume, more waves for me.
Thats what happens when too many people take advice from the local 16 yo shreader that works at the local board store.
Or listens to all the board experts in the carpark.... Never shaped a board in their lives,I catch way more waves than them.......and they still want to tell me I'm riding the wrong board
Yeah the last conversation I had with the shaper resulted in him suggesting I don't reduce the volume as much as what I was suggesting, who am I to argue.........
Guilty of been a carpark expert venue was the coffee club and if I recall the conversation we were discussing a more HP board than your current Whalebone.
A couple questions
When was the last time the shapers saw you surf? Probably over a year but Macca filled him in on my style.
Your a hell of a lot lighter than you were when your current WB was made for you? True but to be honest I'm not feeling like the current one is restricting me and given current circumstances allow me to surf only once a week if I'm lucky I enjoy the easy paddle and wave catching ability the extra volume provides.
Whats the difference in volume and dims between your HL verses the HL? Significantly thinned rails, 1/4" narrower, 1/4" thinner, updated concaves.
Vanders time to go wild IMHO As discussed over coffee, small changes at a time.
I know you love your Whalebone but your a totally different guy than you were back then.
Your a tall bugger908 x ? x ? would be a good start and as I said pull the tail in as well as the nose. After riding my 9'6 the other day then changing to the 10' hotlog it just felt right length wise. Maybe I'll road test your 9'8 and see how it feels.
I'd be happy if SDR named this new model The Fang Machine Where did that come from?????
Expert advise maybe not but those questions need to be asked.
Thanks mate I was interested of how you see and feel it with your boards.
On the fang thing I just made that up, Fang as in fly
indeed, small changes at one time as discussed over coffee.
its a good move vanders.
funny enough my evo 2 doesn't go as well at the alley as it does at rainbow when there is a bit of size.
can't work it out. maybe because of the different shape of the waves
Maybe the alley dose not pack the same punch weight for weight
Different tide,swell angle blah blahOr just maybe you surfed sh-t
for once
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..
Maybe the alley dose not pack the same punch weight for weight
Different tide,swell angle blah blahOr just maybe you surfed sh-t
for once
nar noticed it a few time when its bigger alley.
I suppose its a rougher type of wave. angle and all that stuff too
and its not bad be any means.
still got my share
Select to expand quoteSimondo said..
I've got nothing to add!
You guys have it sorted!
Same here mate I'm just making it up as I go
Select to expand quoteSimondo said..
I've got nothing to add!
You guys have it sorted!
whats the matter.
you usually post a picture of a mct board thats got nothing to do with the topic.
are you ok. feeling all right.
lets know if we can help out
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..
Thanks mate I was interested of how you see and feel it with your boards.
On the fang thing I just made that up, Fang as in fly
Ok gotcha on the 'fang' now
Regarding boards, honestly I think there is still so much work I need to do in regards to technique, Lacey has been great with tips and assistance (don't tell him I said that), I guess it's easier to focus on modifying my technique when I'm on a board that I'm totally comfortable on, I can just focus on the changes I need to make and not have to deal with the challenges of a board that doesn't give you that 'fits like a glove feel'. Once I can get a handle on better technique I reckon the benefits of what you're suggesting will become more apparent and likely useable. Just my thoughts.
Select to expand quotevanders1 said...Macaha said..
Thanks mate I was interested of how you see and feel it with your boards.
On the fang thing I just made that up, Fang as in fly
Ok gotcha on the 'fang' now
Regarding boards, honestly I think there is still so much work I need to do in regards to technique, Lacey has been great with tips and assistance (don't tell him I said that), I guess it's easier to focus on modifying my technique when I'm on a board that I'm totally comfortable on, I can just focus on the changes I need to make and not have to deal with the challenges of a board that doesn't give you that 'fits like a glove feel'. Once I can get a handle on better technique I reckon the benefits of what you're suggesting will become more apparent and likely useable. Just my thoughts.
Wait, so what your saying is focus on the technique instead of the board. Thats not consistent with this room.
