Select to expand quoteMacaha said..
Geez Lacey's delete button must wearing out
Its not a problem, you have everything on your seabreeze file/dossier system
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
Select to expand quoteCuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
Damn you and your board porn Cuttlefish 
You need to lock that thing away for 30 years as part of your self managed super fund. I have a feeling that Joel's boards and MOE will be as sought after as some of the rare ones today.
Select to expand quoteCuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
The pad is to protect the deck so you can sell it as "will suit new buyer" on gummie in two weeks?
Select to expand quoteonefin said..Cuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
The pad is to protect the deck so you can sell it as "will suit new buyer" on gummie in two weeks?
Damn straight. I'm not a collector.
Quiver culling is my hobby.
Select to expand quotechrispy said..
That's no mid length?
Got more holes in it than I was looking to put in the CJet.
Mmmmm.... Six knubsters a or side biters with a large trailer.
Select to expand quoteCuttlefish said..onefin said..Cuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
The pad is to protect the deck so you can sell it as "will suit new buyer" on gummie in two weeks?
Damn straight. I'm not a collector.
Quiver culling is my hobby.
Teach me Obi Wan...no one needs 40+boards dating back 40 years.
Select to expand quotethedrip said..Cuttlefish said..onefin said..Cuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
The pad is to protect the deck so you can sell it as "will suit new buyer" on gummie in two weeks?
Damn straight. I'm not a collector.
Quiver culling is my hobby.
Teach me Obi Wan...no one needs 40+boards dating back 40 years.
And those old ones? Fit for the tip if anything - don't be thinking I have anything worth anything to anyone. I just hoard crap.
Select to expand quoteCuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
I think you guys are missing something in is post.
LAWN, look at that lawn
Select to expand quotethedrip said..thedrip said..Cuttlefish said..onefin said..Cuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
The pad is to protect the deck so you can sell it as "will suit new buyer" on gummie in two weeks?
Damn straight. I'm not a collector.
Quiver culling is my hobby.
Teach me Obi Wan...no one needs 40+boards dating back 40 years.
And those old ones? Fit for the tip if anything - don't be thinking I have anything worth anything to anyone. I just hoard crap.
Drip, One fin and I are just having a joke amongst ourselves about the quiver culling thing. He knows I am hopelessly inquisitive about board design and also don't have the unlimited resources necessary to fund my curiosity.
So boards get bought and sold with hilarious regularity to him.
This has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else's board quiver.
I did have a fantastic quiver of boards then back problems had me so debilitated I sold all but one.
A 7'6" shaped by John Mills. One fin will soon be the proud owner of that sole survivor.
Slowly my back improved and I had a crack at getting back in the water.
Now I'm trying to keep it within 4-5 boards that will suit any waves I paddle out in at my preferred spots and also don't give me back pain.
This is why I have fin combos that may make others go wtf. Plenty of normal setups on various boards will have me hobbling back up the beach after a surf. Luckily I can still surf well enough to have others ask about what I'm riding. Don't know for how much longer so I'm going for it while I still can.
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..Cuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
I think you guys are missing something in is post.
LAWN, look at that lawn
We are surrounded by retirees in our cul de sac.
Every time I walk outside I can feel the shame of not keeping it like a bowls green.
Select to expand quoteCuttlefish said..Macaha said..Cuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
I think you guys are missing something in is post.
LAWN, look at that lawn
We are surrounded by retirees in our cul de sac.
Every time I walk outside I can feel the shame of not keeping it like a bowls green.
Oh I was referring to the image with the blue board above.
Select to expand quoteCuttlefish said..thedrip said..thedrip said..Cuttlefish said..onefin said..Cuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
The pad is to protect the deck so you can sell it as "will suit new buyer" on gummie in two weeks?
Damn straight. I'm not a collector.
Quiver culling is my hobby.
Teach me Obi Wan...no one needs 40+boards dating back 40 years.
And those old ones? Fit for the tip if anything - don't be thinking I have anything worth anything to anyone. I just hoard crap.
Drip, One fin and I are just having a joke amongst ourselves about the quiver culling thing. He knows I am hopelessly inquisitive about board design and also don't have the unlimited resources necessary to fund my curiosity.
So boards get bought and sold with hilarious regularity to him.
This has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else's board quiver.
I did have a fantastic quiver of boards then back problems had me so debilitated I sold all but one.
A 7'6" shaped by John Mills. One fin will soon be the proud owner of that sole survivor.
Slowly my back improved and I had a crack at getting back in the water.
Now I'm trying to keep it within 4-5 boards that will suit any waves I paddle out in at my preferred spots and also don't give me back pain.
This is why I have fin combos that may make others go wtf. Plenty of normal setups on various boards will have me hobbling back up the beach after a surf. Luckily I can still surf well enough to have others ask about what I'm riding. Don't know for how much longer so I'm going for it while I still can.
Respect CF, keep at it.
I've got a bung shoulder from jiu-jitsu as well as having fractured my lower back in a warehouse accident.
Not to mention skateboarding fractured hip and blown knees.
Can relate.
Select to expand quoteCuttlefish said..
Took a new Joel Fitzgerald Sea gypsy 7'er for a run in clean but small 1-2' beachbreaks waves as the tide rises this morning.
Board should come into it's own when it's 2' plus. Could feel the potential.
It's 21" wide and 2&7/8" thick with 45.88 litres. Single to double concave bottom and quite boxy rails. Have to surf it off the back foot as standing too far forward and leaning into a turn will result in a bogged rail.
Paddles well and gets into waves fine.
Will be my good days beachbreak board.
Fins are Sea sidebites and a 7" 3d fin. The sidebites look larger than they are in person. Bought them the other day and found when I went to screw them in that one fins base wasn't long enough to screw the fin screw into it. If buying them from Sideways check the fin bases to make sure they are the same length.
Pad came from Sanctum. Modii longboard pad. Don't want to dent the deck too much when duckdiving it and I won't need to step all the way back on the tail like on a shorty so put the pad a bit further up from the tail.
For those who primarily ride a longboard and want a shorter board to chuck a bit of spray on good beachbreak days with a board that you can still duckdive and have a nice bit of rail in the water this would keep you happy.
Very nice CF. They look very nice.
So I took the Webber 6'10 Diamond out today fitted with the Sanctum Large Twins, my first surf on it.
Conditions where good, 2 - 3' faces offshore breeze, and typical closing out on the bank break that we have. But sometimes you get lucky and cop a peaky swell that walls up nicely all the way to shore. managed to score a few of them today.
Gotta say it's an awesome ride, but was also expecting more compared to the 6'10 Carbon Jet. maybe I just set the expectation bar too high?
Both boards felt very familiar and similar, slightly less paddle on the diamond with around 5L less volume but still picking up waves well.
The Diamond felt a bit livelier than the Cjet but I put that down to the difference between PU and PE materials.
The Webber did transition rail to rail a little easier and felt just a little quicker but also a bit flighty. What I did notice is that it had a lot more in reserve than what I was tapping into on my first session with it, but then again I never really got to open the Cjet up to it's full potential apart from on a couple of good waves in one session.
And based on that it still outshines the Webber ATM.
Will need to get a few more waves under the Webber before I can definitively state it is a better ride, but to be fair to the so called "crap" china made Cjet from SBWH it wins hands down in the value for money stakes.
There is likely less than 5% performance difference between them at this stage, but with the Cjet retail around $550 and the the Diamond retail around $1100 the value equation goes to the Cjet.
Paddle - Diamond 8/10, Cjet 9/10.
Turning - Diamond 8-9/10, Cjet 7-8/10.
Rail to rail - Diamond 9/10, Cjet 7/10.
Finish Quality - Diamond 8/10, Cjet 9/10.
Value - Diamond 6/10, Cjet 10/10.
I would rate the Cjet as better suited as a step up from a foam board, so for someone who is past learner and now intermediate. An advanced rider could also whip the Cjet around but I think that they would notice the difference in performance to the Diamond a lot more than me.
I would rate the Diamond as the same but with hidden potential once dialed in with the right fins to suit intermediate to advanced.
Some will not agree, but I have purposefully tried to be objective and fair at the same time on my assessment.
Good review.
Mac will like this because he is looking into the mid length market so he can get away from the overcrowded southern points
Too bad you didn't have both of them to surf back to back on the same day.
I used to have an MR flying fish I loved. Rode it in 3-4 barreling offshore beachbreaks one day. Then in almost identical conditions the next day I rode my Firewire Nano. The difference in speed and how far I could go in length of ride was quite marked. Needless to say the MR became surplass to my requirements.
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..
Flying fish is still good board.
Was MRs best sellers
Agreed. Just the Nano was one of my all time fave shorties. Game changer so to speak. I remember my first surf on it, feeling the speed of the board underfoot I totally understood the Tomo "modern planing hull" concept. I've never gone faster on a wave on any shortboard (with control) than I have on that Nano. Sold it to Ted the Kiwi since he was chasing one to replace his broken one. Should have kept it to be honest.
Funny how they were really big then gone. Im assuming they dont do them anymore.
Personally i found them fast. Not doubt. But lacked in other areas.
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..
Funny how they were really big then gone. Im assuming they dont do them anymore.
Personally i found them fast. Not doubt. But lacked in other areas.
Is that the Hypto Krypto you are talking about? Or a mid-length twin?
Oh oh my bad...the Nano.
Wrong flavour of the month.
Select to expand quoteCuttlefish said..laceys lane said..
Flying fish is still good board.
Was MRs best sellers
Agreed. Just the Nano was one of my all time fave shorties. Game changer so to speak. I remember my first surf on it, feeling the speed of the board underfoot I totally understood the Tomo "modern planing hull" concept. I've never gone faster on a wave on any shortboard (with control) than I have on that Nano. Sold it to Ted the Kiwi since he was chasing one to replace his broken one. Should have kept it to be honest.
Anything I say will be wrongly misinterpreted and I will be a "hater" however, I just can't pass this opportunity up. How many "game changers" have you bought and sold ....... In the last 12 months
Select to expand quoteonefin said..Cuttlefish said..laceys lane said..
Flying fish is still good board.
Was MRs best sellers
Agreed. Just the Nano was one of my all time fave shorties. Game changer so to speak. I remember my first surf on it, feeling the speed of the board underfoot I totally understood the Tomo "modern planing hull" concept. I've never gone faster on a wave on any shortboard (with control) than I have on that Nano. Sold it to Ted the Kiwi since he was chasing one to replace his broken one. Should have kept it to be honest.
Anything I say will be wrongly misinterpreted and I will be a "hater" however, I just can't pass this opportunity up. How many "game changers" have you bought and sold ....... In the last 12 months
It's a long road back to my dialled in quiver. Got 5 boards I'm really happy with atm. The advancements have been fun. Sea gypsy going great at one of Noosa's points today with only 3 of us out...the Sea Gypsy loves a bigger wave (Sunshine coast scale not applicable elsewhere).
Select to expand quoteonefin said..
And how many were moulded pop out imports bwah ha ha ha!
I think CF's Joel Fitzgerald Sea Gypsy is the real deal game changer.
A work of art, there are some things in life you can just look at and know that they are good.
If I was a rich man I would buy one and a Cosmic Twin at the same time, I'm fairly sure that would complete me and make me whole (until something new catches my eye).
The only pop out's that I have seen that even come close to running similar lines that look right are the Sanctum Cast Away and Mini G. The mini Simmons Door looks nice as well.
Having never handled any I can not comment on rails, bottom contours, weights, quality etc.
They just all look very well proportioned to my eye.
Also had the pleasure of looking over some Yahoo's in the flesh the other day in a local O&E shop. They had the Kelvinator, the Impersonator, and the Blackbeard in a mid length. All beautifully made and finished, top quality 10/10 on that versus around an 8/10 on the SBWH CJet.
Sadly none of them spoke to me apart from maybe a mid length Impersonator, but at the number on the tag that is a pipe dream.
Note to self: Stop looking at surf boards and ride the one you've got better first.
