just heard a big bull shark was spotted this afternoon 50 meters off the western end of crayfish creek beach . Pretty much exactly the spot I sit catching waves for 3 to 4 hours most of my free weekends . Few weeks back my home beach here at Penguin was closed due to a big white pointer hanging around . Earlier this week a 4 meter white point circled a boat off Burnie .White pointer was in the Devonport River mouth - the most popular surf spot on the Northwest
Not sure what is going on - but either the ecosystem out in the ocean has changed and big shark numbers in close are definitely on the increase .
Or maybe people are more shark conscious and are reporting all their sightings . Hoping that's the case .
20 years ago that surfer would see that bullshark and tell a few of his mates 
Today he sees the shark he still tells his mates they all whack it on face book, text, seabreeze to everyone they know alll of a sudden eveyone in the Southern hemisphere knows there was a fkin bull shark at crayfish beach where ever the hell that is
booffy have you been on that cheep plonk
tas your just not cutting it 
basically you need to post shark graphs or pimp some lame shark shielding device to be taken serious around here
….why lame….. "its never been worn by ANY human in the water near a GWS"
when it is ,i will stand corrected .
until then i call placebo.
alpha predator......lets go feed the lions by hand and see what happens..... tge seemingly random movements in the tasman are in line with the tuna cycle of spawn migrate and grow..on the west coast we have whales sept-november some ofthese sharks do the tuna run than hang around come across the bottom and wait for the whales to get to gero-kalbarri,stalk them down past perth and into margies before completing the circuit again... The other ones do the run from the tasman up to lennox and broken head to wait for the whales on the east coast, similar time of year august-nov....... One part of it is they in general stop at around the same latitude either side of the coast where water temps become warmer.... A shark has to be around 20 years old (great white) before it has the jaw strength to eat a mammal(seal/human) this also is about the same time they have been protected but also are not scared of humans in fact are encouraged to relate people with food.. Coupled in with the whale population booming and offshore tuna being in lower numbers due to foreign flagged vessels hammering tuna stock in australian waters. (legally and under australian licenses no ****tttt). It is of note though that many of these boats illegaly unload at sea onto other foreign vessels to ensure they are " above board" when they unload in aussie ports and not blow there quota..... That along with crayboats no longer being able to catch bycatch ( sharks through shark hooks on cray floats) has allowed huge huge huge population growth. The sad thing is that they cannot be untrained,scientists still dont know how long they live and ages in excess of 100 years are agreed to be not only realistic but quite possibly a gross underestimate.. When you were kids there was always a scary dog that you would have to walk past on the way to school. For a laugh most kids would drag a stick along the fence to really rev the dog up.....Its not right you say,you cant do that,..Well this and worse is what we have done with these sharks, imagine what would of happened if the domesticated dog got through the fence..... Sharks have memory and are habitual feeders,if a whale washes up on a beach and a white gets a feed every time he is on his circuit he will return to that beach on the way through, The shark attacks at cottesloe over the space of several years can only be put down to one or at most two different sharks.. In the 70s a huge whale washed up on the beach and was there for months and months, every shark for miles got a feed or five ...You may say yeah but there was no attacks for 30-40years after and you would be correct, this actually just re-inforces the point even more, because the same sharks that would swim past on their circuit every year never thought of humans as food until the 2000s when shark cage diving became a "thing"... so between the twenty year old sharks who are young pups learning new tricks and the old sharks who have the system wired and only recently related people to food we are doing a stirling job of training them up to hunt humans and attack them... Please remember too that in most of the recent attacks people werent mistakenly bitten and let go they were hunted and eaten..A shark does not accidently eat some one... Solution,,,,Ban shark cage diving and muppets hand feeding/training/taunting sharks immediatley, Kill the sharks that we have now trained and allow the ecosystem to restore itself. The reality is that until the trained sharks are killed is that attacks will not only keep on increasing but fall into what a shark constitutes as part of its diet..... We created the monster so therefore are accountable.... Reality sux aye
www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/city-beach-floreat-and-cottesloe-beaches-closed-after-separate-shark-sightings-ng-287294710389369eb6491caeb68fe415
hello old friend..........3 metres twenty-25 year old shark 3.5-4 metres 30-40 + years............
Select to expand quoteCobra said..
booffy have you been on that cheep plonk
tas your just not cutting it
basically you need to post shark graphs or pimp some lame shark shielding device to be taken serious around here
….why lame….. "its never been worn by ANY human in the water near a GWS"
when it is ,i will stand corrected .
until then i call placebo.
Got no shark graphs or shark shield but thanks for the tip
I get on the beach or in the ocean pretty much every day . Yet to see a big shark in close to the beach on the northwest coast . Every summer we got the odd shark seen miles out to see by fisherman making the local paper . But the last 3 weeks every couple of days there have been reports of big sharks ( ov 4 meters ) in close .
IMO people are jumpy , and justifiably so after the run of horrific shark attacks in the last few years . But maybe I am wrong and as Mick Fanning said shark behaviour is changing
One thing for sure we won't be getting shark netting here on the coast like they are pushing for up around the wife's old home town Balina .
I
y Tassie wasnt meaning to be disrespectful just pointing out with todays technology and social media we are exposed to so much information and scaremongering Im sure Crayfish Beach is a beautiful spot
Yes Cobra I did have half a dozen Canadian Club Drys under my belt
Select to expand quoteboofy said..
y Tassie wasnt meaning to be disrespectful just pointing out with todays technology and social media we are exposed to so much information and scaremongering Im sure Crayfish Beach is a beautiful spot
Yes Cobra I did have half a dozen Canadian Club Drys under my belt
No worries mate . Crayfish creek is a small coastal village on the northwest coast .Like 100 s of other small coastal villages in Tas , a few beach shacks on an isolated beach , no Macdonalds , no shops , no internet , no phone reception . When I get onto the beach there it's just me and the ocean ( and maybe the odd bull shark ) Definitly no surfing Mecca but does catch a good easterly swell and is my idea of paradise .
I was up on the Gold Coast a few months back and drove past Currumbin alley . Must have been at least 300 out there fighting over knee high waves .Thats paradise to others and good luck to them . Each to their own .
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..
I like it when Boofy gets on it
even better when Mac gets on it
The whole thing is just a media beat up because they have nothing interesting or credible to write about... The sharks have always been there and its their territory, they are coming closer to shore but thats due to greedy humans depleting their home not only of food but also the environment to cultivate the entirety of the food chain. Mass over fishing is bad but now the F@cking yuppies also decide they need krill oil and chitosan to offset their all the bad sh1t they consume and these are the basis nutrients that the start of the food chain rely on...
Anyway, if you want to be scared of being killed by an animal then you ACTUALLY should statistically be more scared of Dogs, Bees, Cows, Ants, Horses, Mosquitos etc etc Sharks are way way waaaaaay down at the bottom of the list, i think its the idea of the unseen that makes people fearful of sharks... in fact statistically you should be more scared of falling coconuts, lunch, champagne corks, vending machines and beds as statistically these are more likely to kill you 
f 
ck stats andy,there is more chance of getting wacked by a shark on the nsw nth coast than being hit by lightning,fact.
thats why the surf at noosa is full of brisso's and i mean full 
Select to expand quoteAndyrooMac said..
The whole thing is just a media beat up because they have nothing interesting or credible to write about... The sharks have always been there and its their territory, they are coming closer to shore but thats due to greedy humans depleting their home not only of food but also the environment to cultivate the entirety of the food chain. Mass over fishing is bad but now the F@cking yuppies also decide they need krill oil and chitosan to offset their all the bad sh1t they consume and these are the basis nutrients that the start of the food chain rely on...
Anyway, if you want to be scared of being killed by an animal then you ACTUALLY should statistically be more scared of Dogs, Bees, Cows, Ants, Horses, Mosquitos etc etc Sharks are way way waaaaaay down at the bottom of the list, i think its the idea of the unseen that makes people fearful of sharks... in fact statistically you should be more scared of falling coconuts, lunch, champagne corks, vending machines and beds as statistically these are more likely to kill you
I am scared of dogs ,bees, cows ants horses and mosquitos too if they can kill me.
something ought to be done with the cow problem too. 
however i deal with beds everyday of my life and have managed to survive.
im pretty sure if I have to deal with a shark in the water my chances aren't as good as an encounter with a bed
and my friend shark encounters are on the up.
another typical misuse of facts
Select to expand quotefirstpoint said..
f ck stats andy,there is more chance of getting wacked by a shark on the nsw nth coast than being hit by lightning,fact.
thats why the surf at noosa is full of brisso's and i mean full
any of those brisso's go any good?
Well maybe we need to educate these Shark friends to start thinning out the Hipters and Sups for us
And besides, once the Adani coal mine opens most of the sea life on that coast is F@cked anyway 
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..
I am scared of dogs ,bees, cows ants horses and mosquitos too if they can kill me.
something ought to be done with the cow problem too.
however i deal with beds everyday of my life and have managed to survive.
im pretty sure if I have to deal with a shark in the water my chances aren't as good as an encounter with a bed
and my friend shark encounters are on the up.
another typical misuse of facts
how bad is your bed 
or whats in the bed thats deadly.
i don't have any trouble in a bed and Im quiet comfortable farting and rooting in one
Select to expand quoteCobra said...laceys lane said..
I am scared of dogs ,bees, cows ants horses and mosquitos too if they can kill me.
something ought to be done with the cow problem too.
however i deal with beds everyday of my life and have managed to survive.
im pretty sure if I have to deal with a shark in the water my chances aren't as good as an encounter with a bed
and my friend shark encounters are on the up.
another typical misuse of facts
how bad is your bed or whats in the bed thats deadly.
i don't have any trouble in a bed and Im quiet comfortable farting and rooting in one
I didnt know my bed could kill me before today.
But ill be keeping an eye on it now
alpha predator......lets go feed the lions by hand and see what happens..... tge seemingly random movements in the tasman are in line with the tuna cycle of spawn migrate and grow..on the west coast we have whales sept-november some ofthese sharks do the tuna run than hang around come across the bottom and wait for the whales to get to gero-kalbarri,stalk them down past perth and into margies before completing the circuit again... The other ones do the run from the tasman up to lennox and broken head to wait for the whales on the east coast, similar time of year august-nov....... One part of it is they in general stop at around the same latitude either side of the coast where water temps become warmer.... A shark has to be around 20 years old (great white) before it has the jaw strength to eat a mammal(seal/human) this also is about the same time they have been protected but also are not scared of humans in fact are encouraged to relate people with food.. Coupled in with the whale population booming and offshore tuna being in lower numbers due to foreign flagged vessels hammering tuna stock in australian waters. (legally and under australian licenses no ****tttt). It is of note though that many of these boats illegaly unload at sea onto other foreign vessels to ensure they are " above board" when they unload in aussie ports and not blow there quota..... That along with crayboats no longer being able to catch bycatch ( sharks through shark hooks on cray floats) has allowed huge huge huge population growth. The sad thing is that they cannot be untrained,scientists still dont know how long they live and ages in excess of 100 years are agreed to be not only realistic but quite possibly a gross underestimate.. When you were kids there was always a scary dog that you would have to walk past on the way to school. For a laugh most kids would drag a stick along the fence to really rev the dog up.....Its not right you say,you cant do that,..Well this and worse is what we have done with these sharks, imagine what would of happened if the domesticated dog got through the fence..... Sharks have memory and are habitual feeders,if a whale washes up on a beach and a white gets a feed every time he is on his circuit he will return to that beach on the way through, The shark attacks at cottesloe over the space of several years can only be put down to one or at most two different sharks.. In the 70s a huge whale washed up on the beach and was there for months and months, every shark for miles got a feed or five ...You may say yeah but there was no attacks for 30-40years after and you would be correct, this actually just re-inforces the point even more, because the same sharks that would swim past on their circuit every year never thought of humans as food until the 2000s when shark cage diving became a "thing"... so between the twenty year old sharks who are young pups learning new tricks and the old sharks who have the system wired and only recently related people to food we are doing a stirling job of training them up to hunt humans and attack them... Please remember too that in most of the recent attacks people werent mistakenly bitten and let go they were hunted and eaten..A shark does not accidently eat some one... Solution,,,,Ban shark cage diving and muppets hand feeding/training/taunting sharks immediatley, Kill the sharks that we have now trained and allow the ecosystem to restore itself. The reality is that until the trained sharks are killed is that attacks will not only keep on increasing but fall into what a shark constitutes as part of its diet..... We created the monster so therefore are accountable.... Reality sux aye
just heard the finer details of the crayfish creek shark spotting - couple of blokes out surfing when a group of seals swam past them . Next thing surprise , surprise a 3 meter shark came through chasing the seals . There is a big seal colony just around the corner
lesson to be learnt if you see a group of seals swim past get out of the water
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said...
For anyone interested the dino beds are available at macs shop - genuine
they think their ok,got all the moves,just not many manners,i think they were surfing your spot before they turn to us.
Select to expand quoteAndyrooMac said..
Anyway, if you want to be scared of being killed by an animal then you ACTUALLY should statistically be more scared of Dogs, Bees, Cows, Ants, Horses, Mosquitos etc etc Sharks are way way waaaaaay down at the bottom of the list, i think its the idea of the unseen that makes people fearful of sharks... in fact statistically you should be more scared of falling coconuts, lunch, champagne corks, vending machines and beds as statistically these are more likely to kill you
Completely incorrect and a poor use of statistics. You have to equate the base of the people at risk in each category.
In the examples' you used, every person on the planet is at risk from Dogs, Bees, Cows, Ants, Horses, Mosquitos' etc etc... With sharks, the only people at risk are deep water users - surfers, divers etc. So 7.2 billion, verses 10 - 100 million. Lets for the sake of this argument say ocean users at risk of shark attack is 72 million, to equate your statistical measures, you would need to multiply the number of shark attacks by 100 to show a fair comparison. In Australia the ratio is more ocean users than average. Probably 1 million of the 22 million population. So the multiple would be 22 not 100.
So on average 10 people a year die in Australia from bee sting. There have been 12 attacks in NSW near Ballina alone this year. On average in Australia, 2-3 people die from shark attack each year. So already, without equating the base of your measure, there are more attacks in NSW than bee sting deaths in Australia, 10 v's 12. Death verses death with an equal base in Australia, 10 verses 44-66.
Mosquitos on the other hand there is no comparison, but billions of dollars are being thrown at that problem.
Select to expand quoteJfunk said...AndyrooMac said..
Anyway, if you want to be scared of being killed by an animal then you ACTUALLY should statistically be more scared of Dogs, Bees, Cows, Ants, Horses, Mosquitos etc etc Sharks are way way waaaaaay down at the bottom of the list, i think its the idea of the unseen that makes people fearful of sharks... in fact statistically you should be more scared of falling coconuts, lunch, champagne corks, vending machines and beds as statistically these are more likely to kill you
Completely incorrect and a poor use of statistics. You have to equate the base of the people at risk in each category.
In the examples' you used, every person on the planet is at risk from Dogs, Bees, Cows, Ants, Horses, Mosquitos' etc etc... With sharks, the only people at risk are deep water users - surfers, divers etc. So 7.2 billion, verses 10 - 100 million. Lets for the sake of this argument say ocean users at risk of shark attack is 72 million, to equate your statistical measures, you would need to multiply the number of shark attacks by 100 to show a fair comparison. In Australia the ratio is more ocean users than average. Probably 1 million of the 22 million population. So the multiple would be 22 not 100.
So on average 10 people a year die in Australia from bee sting. There have been 12 attacks in NSW near Ballina alone this year. On average in Australia, 2-3 people die from shark attack each year. So already, without equating the base of your measure, there are more attacks in NSW than bee sting deaths in Australia, 10 v's 12. Death verses death with an equal base in Australia, 10 verses 44-66.
Mosquitos on the other hand there is no comparison, but billions of dollars are being thrown at that problem.
WTF I feel like I'm back at school,, sorry teach I know where the corner is
Its not the beds its the inhabitants that kill you Come to bed Lacey I promise I wont kill you but I dont like the little dogs chances
Select to expand quoteCobra said..Jfunk said...AndyrooMac said..
Anyway, if you want to be scared of being killed by an animal then you ACTUALLY should statistically be more scared of Dogs, Bees, Cows, Ants, Horses, Mosquitos etc etc Sharks are way way waaaaaay down at the bottom of the list, i think its the idea of the unseen that makes people fearful of sharks... in fact statistically you should be more scared of falling coconuts, lunch, champagne corks, vending machines and beds as statistically these are more likely to kill you
Completely incorrect and a poor use of statistics. You have to equate the base of the people at risk in each category.
In the examples' you used, every person on the planet is at risk from Dogs, Bees, Cows, Ants, Horses, Mosquitos' etc etc... With sharks, the only people at risk are deep water users - surfers, divers etc. So 7.2 billion, verses 10 - 100 million. Lets for the sake of this argument say ocean users at risk of shark attack is 72 million, to equate your statistical measures, you would need to multiply the number of shark attacks by 100 to show a fair comparison. In Australia the ratio is more ocean users than average. Probably 1 million of the 22 million population. So the multiple would be 22 not 100.
So on average 10 people a year die in Australia from bee sting. There have been 12 attacks in NSW near Ballina alone this year. On average in Australia, 2-3 people die from shark attack each year. So already, without equating the base of your measure, there are more attacks in NSW than bee sting deaths in Australia, 10 v's 12. Death verses death with an equal base in Australia, 10 verses 44-66.
Mosquitos on the other hand there is no comparison, but billions of dollars are being thrown at that problem.
WTF I feel like I'm back at school,, sorry teach I know where the corner is
2 people on seabreeze die a year having massive strokes trying to get their head around posts like that
Haha, sorry but not quite... not everyone encounters horses, bees, dogs, beds, etc either
Soooooo, you would actually have to then measure time of exposure vs instance of attack/fatality... i.e. time in the water vs attacks and then compare that to time spent walking around coconut trees vs split heads etc etc
I agree they are on the increase but the number is still pretty small, i'm way more fearful of the idiot in the car next to me than the elusive shark.
I would also point out that the REAL solution is to stop polluting, ravaging and destroying the environment and then the ecosystem can return to balance and the sharks can go back to eating stuff they actually like... ... like Hipers and SUPS... well you gotta have hope right
Select to expand quoteboofy said..
Its not the beds its the inhabitants that kill you Come to bed Lacey I promise I wont kill you but I dont like the little dogs chances
Reckon even the biggest of sharks would choke on that and spit it back out .
