The 10fter is in production

So do I glass it nice and heavy like a traditional log - Volan with loads of resin or just a couple of 6's because it will be so dam big anyway? I want it to be a classic nose riding beast with 60/40 rails - and I am planning to really thin the tail out - it will have lots of tail lift through that last 12 inches or so. The biggest thing that I would like from this board is that I can go out when its 1/2 to 2ft and soft n clean and have a ball. Those days when I normally do not bother surfing or when I am holidaying at a long right point break and I can just make a pig of myself

I have only ever surfed one 10fter n it was ob's - it was great fun and pretty light from memory. Vander's one seemed fairly light as well - wish I had not passed up on the offer to have a wave on it. Error - massive.

no mention of how wide ted.
or thick...you kiwis only care about length

heavy ted but don't go nuts. mate you will love this type of board. if it anything like my hotlog.

makes any wave fun. i don't even need the best waves on a small day- any wave will do.


and they are just so god dam fast if you don't get a stupid big drag fin that some like. why you would want to slow your board down is beyond me. there are ways to slow a board when you need too.







in the top ten of surfboards i've ever had

Heavy, but not to heavy is my 2c
Although heavy is good when it is small, they paddle into waves very easy but at the same time they don't like to turn as easy.

i want to do a 6 ft hotlog

I surfed with one of Steve Del Rosso's team riders this morning. His boards range from 4oz x 2oz to 6oz x 4oz. He didn't know how the board he was riding today was glassed, but he said it was heavier & it felt nice & light for a LB to me...personally I would go 8 x 4 & increase the strength with the shape. A deep single concave through to the middle to a double concave running out to the fins. This way the transition from SB to LB & back will be easier imo


Oh & a bit of weight in a LB can be good unless its glassy everyday for ya.

nose concave. the rest is all rolled and chimed. for glide and speed. i think too what im seeing from my experience with race 666's is that type of bottom shape keeps the board more in the water where a flat/edged or concave type bottoms planes and lifts.

i thinks as a nose rider you don't want it lifting or planning. planning boards can get fast instant speed but drop off again just as quickly. a round bottom edged board gets gliding through longer.


the outline does have some curve but possibly the photo is showing more than there really is

Ted, mine turned out heavy due to a gross lack of glassing practice, but it pushes onto waves and absolutely flies through all sections, hollow or flat. It catch's waves easier than my epoxy log.

I used normal 6 oz, 2 on top and 1 on the bottom. I also put a 4 oz knee pad in the middle, cause some days it's a 10' knee board' :D

Can't turn it though.

Needs a flashing amber light and a beeper alarm on it.

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laceys lane said...
nose concave. the rest is all rolled and chimed. for glide and speed. i think too what im seeing from my experience with race 666's is that type of bottom shape keeps the board more in the water where a flat/edged or concave type bottoms planes and lifts.

i thinks as a nose rider you don't want it lifting or planning. planning boards can get fast instant speed but drop off again just as quickly. a round bottom edged board gets gliding through longer.


the outline does have some curve but possibly the photo is showing more than there really is

Agree totally with you LL..and 6x6x6 should be plenty..maybe a kneel patch as well...finbox for sure.

Maybe a Blue tint to commemorate 2014..the year of the Cockroach

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beerdead said...
Ted, mine turned out heavy due to a gross lack of glassing practice, but it pushes onto waves and absolutely flies through all sections, hollow or flat. It catch's waves easier than my epoxy log.

I used normal 6 oz, 2 on top and 1 on the bottom. I also put a 4 oz knee pad in the middle, cause some days it's a 10' knee board' :D

Can't turn it though.

Needs a flashing amber light and a beeper alarm on it.

I think ultimately thats the challenge with shaping a 10' Log. That balance between cruising/paddling speed, stability and holding as a noserider and then also something that can turn. I had a really good chat to Steve at CW about this, he was saying his first logs just had to compromise on the turning ability so he spoke to a bunch of shapers and surfers and came up with the HL design which is supposedly a great turner whilst maintaining the rest, we'll see I guess when mine arrives Will compliment my 9'4" Rob August WIR which turns awesome and flies but is very unstable on the nose...

my personal view is that boards that claim to do both are lying to u. Ted i think you said it all in your opening sentenence, "nice and heavy like a traditional log" and a nose rider. if you are wanting the 'glide' then heavy is ur only option also. I have riden heaps of boards over 10 ft and lets just say the lighter ones seem to push alot of water rather than glide, i believe due to the fact they dont have the weight to really sit above the water and glide, you glass something light it will sink a little and push water. For example that 11'11 deadkooks i got is a bad bad water pusher so far, maybe i havnt figured it out yet, but it doesnt have the glide like my other boards.

i would do a 8x6 on the deck and a 8 on the bottom. Thats what billy glasses all LOG type boards as standard. If you want that bit extra go 2x6 on the bottom or put a deck patch in.

if your worried about turning make it a pin tail and use a standard greenough type fin to start. There is no denying these boards require a little more weight on the back leg and concentration to make them turn, but there not designed to rip and tear. they are cruisers for those 2ft days as you say.

please dont be one of those dudes that try to make a 10ft'er that can turn on a dime, nose ride, and a cruiser. they dont exsist.

go heavy, im guessing u have never had a heavy board so atleast try it once, promise you wont be disappointed

i love this type of patch, because its 2 patches over the top of each other, in straight glass it looks cool because of the darker parts etc

Jeepers BS that looks well beyond my level of expertise - am stressing about doing one patch n here you are suggesting two!! I agree though it would look amazing. No chance of hiding any mistakes though What about the underneath - just a tail one over the fin box?

If doing that cross over pattern would you just use 4oz for the patches?

^^^ good advice

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Macaha said...
did someone say 10 foot

nice Mctavish mate