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Front foot pressure, how do I get it?

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Created by Stretchy > 9 months ago, 28 Dec 2019
WhiteofHeart
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2 Jan 2020 10:22PM
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Paducah said..




Slightly off-topic but how do you keep from backwinding the sail at that low wind speed?


Opening early and carving hard. You cant really see because its a wideangle phone camera, but I think the diameter of my carve was about 5-7m across. Thight carves dont make you lose more speed as in windsurfing because the foil has so little resistance, but you do minimise the window of time in which the sail can backwind, and you can very very quickly get power back in the sail to keep you going.

Paducah
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2 Jan 2020 10:34PM
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WhiteofHeart said..

Paducah said..






Slightly off-topic but how do you keep from backwinding the sail at that low wind speed?



Opening early and carving hard. You cant really see because its a wideangle phone camera, but I think the diameter of my carve was about 5-7m across. Thight carves dont make you lose more speed as in windsurfing because the foil has so little resistance, but you do minimise the window of time in which the sail can backwind, and you can very very quickly get power back in the sail to keep you going.


Many thanks!

Paducah
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6 Jan 2020 9:35AM
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WhiteofHeart said..


Paducah said..








Slightly off-topic but how do you keep from backwinding the sail at that low wind speed?




Opening early and carving hard. You cant really see because its a wideangle phone camera, but I think the diameter of my carve was about 5-7m across. Thight carves dont make you lose more speed as in windsurfing because the foil has so little resistance, but you do minimise the window of time in which the sail can backwind, and you can very very quickly get power back in the sail to keep you going.



Many thanks!


Opened early today in 9-10. Helped a bunch. Not the cleanest but made a couple of ugly ones that normally I wouldn't. Just wanted to thank you again.

Stretchy
WA, 943 posts
11 Jan 2020 9:07PM
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Had a good sail today, my setup felt much more balanced. I attribute this to 3 factors:
1/ I put the wing in the forward holes on my Supercruiser. This made a noticeable difference, I felt more on the pivot point. I could pump the board up onto the foil much more effectively now, I was also having fun pumping it through some of the lulls. Strangely, whilst my centre of effort was now further back relative to the wing, I wasn't having any problem in the gusts.
2/ I stopped using my front strap, moving my foot inboard so I can now get more downwards pressure on my front foot instead of through the rail ah la Slalom style. This position is better, but I would still prefer the security of a strap when I get a bit wobbly.
3/ lighter winds. Maybe I'm kidding myself and it'll all go pear shaped when the wind picks up

Stretchy
WA, 943 posts
23 Feb 2020 5:54PM
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A gusty easterly wind In Bunbury today, 8-18kts. Horrible for slapping but I had a very enjoyable foil today my control is slowly improving, only one breach today. The advice on here has been super helpful. Many thanks.
ive moved the straps inboard and that has definitely helped, I sailed with both feet in the straps comfortably today for most of the session. I started with the wing in the rear position and I definitely had a lot of back foot pressure. Half way through the session I moved the wing forward to the front holes and that was definitely more balanced, the gusts got a bit scary at times, but I was still able to keep the nose down.
BEFORE

AFTER



azymuth
WA, 2029 posts
23 Feb 2020 7:54PM
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Nice chop job

Those footstrap positions now look perfect.

I'd make them super loose so your feet can get out easily

CaptFathom
TAS, 93 posts
24 Feb 2020 3:46AM
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I have the cruiser - love it, don't give up on it. It is different to the other SB foils and this needs taking into account when getting advice. It is very reactive to swell, waves, chop etc. which is its fun factor and changes many things about this foil in comparison to other foils. The large front wing gives the hint. Standing upright and opening the sail in gusts can regulate hight. When heading on a reach you can sweep downwind and wash wind off your sail. You do this by standing very upright with your rear foot more forward and on the other side of the board. Disclaimer: I have only used this foil but sail with many others with a variety of less surfy orientated foils.

CYVRWoody
133 posts
28 Feb 2020 7:03AM
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Mast Pressure/Sail trim vs Front Foot Pressure.
Interesting in the video the front hand uses the uphaul for downward pressure. I think this also changes the sail trim. Could anyone try on a short board/sail and report back?

Paducah
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28 Feb 2020 7:35AM
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VCRWoody said..
Mast Pressure/Sail trim vs Front Foot Pressure.
Interesting in the video the front hand uses the uphaul for downward pressure. I think this also changes the sail trim. Could anyone try on a short board/sail and report back?





That's a common practice in formula, rs:x etc where to sheet in enough (front hand goes out, back hand in) upwind, it's difficult to do with the front hand and extend enough. Using the uphaul is like an arm extender. It's more about sheeting angle rather than mast foot pressure which you get from weight on the harness.

Alex is a first class fellow. He has an interesting background to say the least:https://boards.co.uk/features/alex-morales-escaping-cuba-on-a-windsurfer.html

More explanation: www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31634

Someone else doing the same thing around 0:50
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CYVRWoody
133 posts
29 Feb 2020 12:09AM
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Thanks for the links. Interesting story with the Cuban.



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