Hey White, when you say ease in the gusts in 8-25, what sail(s) are you using?
I live near the **very gusty** Columbia gorge. I will be looking at getting sails this coming summer. I need gust-proof sails.
Yes, I have done a lot of studying about no-cam versus cammed sails for freeride foiling. I have both.
Gustproof.
A pilot who can pump well, feather, weight the boom, lean on front foot, and change direction as needed.
Here's why I ask. I am out on the foil, doing just fine, minding my own business, life is good, cruising right along in 15 mph wind with a 6.4 on either my AFS-2 or LP foil in freeriding mode. So far so good.
A sharp and strong gust hits. I hold it in just fine, but the sudden acceleration FORWARD causes the foil to lift QUICKLY. If I am not ready for it, I foil out before I even realize what is happening. This is mostly with sharp and very strong gusts in the gorge. If the gusts are soft, but still strong, no big deal. I can adjust to those. It's those sharp ones that get me.
So, I am looking for advice about sails that tend to "breathe" the crazy sharp gusts more without the massive acceleration and subsequent foil-out.
My old cambered slalom sails work really well for foiling, but they want to accelerate in the gusts. This was fine, and even desirable, for finning on slalom gear, but not so fine for foiling. So, I need sails that tend to keep consistent power in sharp gusty conditions. I think the no-cam sails head in this direction, but the jury is still out for my next foiling quiver. The Goya Fringe is high on the list.
Yes, we get 8-25 mph here, too, with razor sharp gusts. My problem is that I have to just watch that crap from the beach rather than go out and fight it. I'd rather foil it.
Well, 8 - 25 is pretty crazy, but I'm loving my newly aquired Severne Foil Glides (6 & 7m). So effortless to use compared to my race sails.
Back on topic, ever noticed how passers by/ general public have a good look at the board with a foil on it? As if to say, wow, check that out!
Great to see windfoiling taking off (pardon the pun). Are many windfoilers riding strapless? I think with kitefoiling around 30% - 40% are strapless.
Whiteofheart -- "If you're riding a really big board (mine is 70x180), there's also the problem with rake becoming more prominent. A bad rake on the foil can really mess up your stability in gusts. People always stop talking to me when I go into rake so I just don't do that anymore.."
What do you mean by "bad rake on the foil"? (Nose of the board pointing slightly down?)
Thanks
Spend an hour trying to wind foil ... get your first 50 meters of flight ... and then watch this video... and you won't need to ask what awesome about foiling:
Big gust, stay hooked and sheeted in, head upwind and sink the windward rail hard with front foot.
Upwind direction mitigates the gusts.
I used to race formula a lot. Rake mattered there, too, believe it or not.
My rake is fine for the two boards I foil with: 100x160 formula board, and 75x135 dedicated freeride foil board. (I presume the numbers are width x volume.) The sweet spot for me is the 75x135 board with a 6.4 3-cam in 15 mph not-so-gusty winds. Such days happen often enough out in the eastern Washington state desert that I can call them the sweet spot.
I had a day at the Event Site last summer where the wind was light-ish, but so crazy and sharply gusty (5 gusting 30) that I couldn't even get half way across the river in one piece. No fun. 4.5 no-cam sail. Arm-sailing off the harness. I guess such days call for watching the carnage from the beach.
So, per White, if you have the rake just right, and a sail that pushes down on mast track in gusts, you have it made. Sounds good.
My freeride board is 70x180 in width x length, 105L.
Sometimes its just no fun to go out, those days happen and there's really no one who can make anything of it. A windfoiler will always still have more ease in those conditions than a regular windsurfer tho.
Nope.
A 2 year windsurfer who's hungry has as much fun as you in 3-25.
A 37 year veteran of ws with a year in foiling hates that wind either sport, but goes out anyway to gain experience and complains afterward anyway.
That's funny. Yeah, I'm a guy who will go out in ugly conditions, get thoroughly spanked, keep going out of sheer stubbornness, come in smiling, then still complain about it all.
What's awesome about foiling... the comradery at the "Australian Windfoil Championship 2020 - at RQYS"
New WWF video from Casey Treichler who has finally set up a web site for his boards (N.A. only for the moment) www.reefwarriorsboards.com/foilboard
rancisco Javier Collados that day we had gusts around 70kn and average 50kn 3.3 fair powered up! Those storm happen quite often in the swiss winter months ????
Foil stoke? Hell yes. I love the feeling of flying over water, very quiet; reminds me of a jet fighter hauling ass just above the water. And I'm getting in 3x the days the slapper sailors are.