I guess the bottom line here is that No-one in Australia Will buy or come in cooee of FRP Gear because of XYZ.
It's fine for XYZ to have shared his opinion but now it's time to give I a rest, Please! It was interesting but gone too far.
If someone here wants a Naish Foil set up then it's up to them to waste (LOL) their money and buy it.
Maybe XYZ should start his own threads in future rather than poisoning serious conversations with his repeated opinions.
Or come clean to who he is. XYZ, seriously? FRP code?
what ever dude.
Happy New Year!
It seem to be people here need someone to fuel the conversation. It is actually very typical in modern world where most of the people have been brainwashed down to slave followers and only very few clear minded remain to lead the crowd.
I think this may keep this topic burning:
frpgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Hydrofoils-Comparison.pdf
Nicholas Goyard just hit 35 kts on a Starboard foil
www.facebook.com/nicolasgoyardwindsurfing/
kit: " I was with the Starboard foil set up with 550 front wing, 95 mast, 95 fuselage and 250 stabilizer ??
In 7,1"
Looks like someone needs to update their pdf
Fprgear defiantly has a unique design. The distance from front to back wing is pritty similar to other foil brands. I like how they have huge wings for light wind (120cm span). But I don't like how there mast or masts? is only 60cm. The price is actually good for made in America. LP is another USA made foil on the higher end of the spectrum. They also have a fairly large front wing at 94cm, glad to see this is starting to happen there... can't say the same for Canada as i think we are going the other way
I think a lot of kite brands are getting into the windfoil market and doing well such as LP, Zeeko, slingshot, etc.
I'm suffering the work getting in the way of fun these days but the few goes now on my Spitfire XXLW on 90cm mast as a Windfoil have me concluding that the same wind strength that can get me barely waterstarted ( using every trick in book to get up) is the same power to get foiling. Without pumping foil.
i don't own an uphaul rope and the Canard foil is not a problem to my shins.
still sorting strap and mast positioning but I feel the water start threshold looks to be my thing.
Having a wingspan under 600mm I'm seeing as a blessing.
I don't think you (XYZ) know what a psychometrician does. I'm a mathematician and have very little to do with psychology, I leave that to the people who know about it, but my expertise lies in setting up an experiment the correct way, minimising error and bias (research methodology), correctly documenting the results, and all the maths needed to interpret the results reported.
On top of that, as said before, I have sufficient knowledge about foildesign to see how some things in your arguments just don't add up. Especially the faster / fly earlier / more surface / less thickness / less drag and more lift part is really bollocks. The performance in these aspects just can't mix that way.
i have said before, If you are willing to send one over I would gladly test your product, do a comparison and give an honest opinion.
Kind regards.
Ok then, so there does seem to be a connection between the power needed to water start and to fly on foil.
the other day for me it was about 12 knots with 5.8m 135L and my 95-6kg
there might be some help from the extra resistance from the foil.
once flying for me it's the control direction phase I'm at.
Starboard says that with frpgear foil you need as low as 6m SB 2019 sail to fly at 4 knots wind.
Listen to Tiesda at 1:09-1:10
It is nice to see some innovative (and maybe oddball) designs out there. When all this stuff gets tried and confirmed--or refuted--we all benefit.
By the way, yes, you definitely can indeed spin out a foil. I do it all the time. If I am out in light wind trying to go upwind by leveraging the foil mast instead of tilting the board to windward, I easily slap down at even just 12" height. Friends of mine right behind me have seen me do this.
xyz,
I've seen both those videos. You are either a) in dire need of medical attention or b) full of crap but still in need of help. I'm really hoping that it's simply a) because you can get help. If you feel like Tiesda You is speaking to you via Youtube, I believe the proper term for that is a psychosis which would indicate a significant but likely treatable medical issue.
If you simply lied (none of which you claimed those videos said is true), thinking that no one either hadn't or wouldn't watch the videos, that, too, indicates an issue that can be addressed by a professional through counseling but won't be a quick and easy thing to address. Continuing as you are will be damaging to you and your relationships with others. If you, at all, are interacting with those close to you as you are with us on this forum, things will be difficult for you and those around you.
I used to think you were just a stubborn inventor who suffered a bit by not understanding social cues. This latest post has me genuinely concerned for your well-being.
When I say spinout, I am talking about the same type of spinout as we get with a regular fin, but this time it's the foil mast (strut) that spins out.
I am foiling along, enjoying life. I hear the tearing sound of the mast cutting water. I point the board upwind but keep it mostly level. It slows down. If I slow down too much the tearing sound increases a lot, but the wing continues flying. At some point the mast cavitates and spins out. It all slaps down. Easy to recover.
This is all about the mast (strut), not the wing.
Lesson learned. Use the wing to pinch upwind by railing the board to windward. Don't use the strut (mast) like a fin, like we all do with formula.