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Boom Grip ??

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Created by Imax1 > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2016
Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
17 Feb 2017 8:59PM
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olskool said..

Imax1 said..
For anyone interested , after more testing the boom grip modification is great.
Feels good and easy to hang onto.
No harness marks or problems.
Would highly recommend ( bit of a job but not too hard )



Hi Imax1, great looking idea! My hands tire quickly. Im keen to give it a go. Qs. How thick is V hump? Positioned at inner most,widest point of boom diameter in a horizontal plane. Or slightly above horizontal? With the V hump, is the standard boom grip from shops wide enough to cover completely?


The hump is 6mm thick , two layers of 3mm.high density Eva foam.
Horizontal works perfect.
I didn't use the shop stuff.
I bought a sheet of foam 1mx1m ,2mm high density eva foam delivered for about $ 40.
Its the same stuff.
On Monday I'll let you know the company name and details if u like.

olskool
QLD, 2446 posts
25 Feb 2017 6:40AM
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Hi Imax1 can you post address for eva grip.

Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
25 Feb 2017 8:33AM
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Hi Imax1 can you post address for eva grip.


No worries oldskool , I will on Monday

Big Al
WA, 264 posts
25 Feb 2017 1:27PM
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Surf Sail in Leederville.

AB....

azuli
QLD, 348 posts
25 Feb 2017 5:36PM
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Am also looking for grip to regrip a NP X9 boom.
Was thinking of using Cork like on the X-Booms race board booms but am finding it hard to get 2mm thick cork sheets.
Has anybody tried using cork or found a suitable product for windsurf boom grip ?

KA360
NSW, 803 posts
25 Feb 2017 8:12PM
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azuli said..
Am also looking for grip to regrip a NP X9 boom.
Was thinking of using Cork like on the X-Booms race board booms but am finding it hard to get 2mm thick cork sheets.
Has anybody tried using cork or found a suitable product for windsurf boom grip ?


Try spotlight, I'm going to give it a go next week. I will use the 0.9mm to make my ENIGMA even more toy like




azuli
QLD, 348 posts
26 Feb 2017 5:11PM
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Bought some of the 2mm thick 1M long sheets from Spotlight today, but I think it is too soft and won't last well.

Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
27 Feb 2017 8:57AM
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The company name is ALGEOS.
Dandenong , Vic.
( 03 ) 97064355

The stuff i used is EVA HD 2mm
It works perfectly.
Sheet size 100cm x 80cm.
Cost $ 14.75 + gst
Ring them for a delivery cost.

There would be other closer to you places selling the same stuff.

olskool
QLD, 2446 posts
6 Mar 2017 8:51AM
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Heres a few pics of my boom Vgrip ive just done.






olskool
QLD, 2446 posts
6 Mar 2017 8:52AM
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olskool
QLD, 2446 posts
7 Mar 2017 6:13PM
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Ok so i tested my custom eva VGRIP boom. Sailed in gusty 8-12kts. Not much harness use. Plenty of pumping to induce the board to plane. Sailed a brand new stocko round boom for the first hour. Hands & fingers quite sore. Rerigged my custom VGRIP boom. Sailed the next 3hrs with very little fatigue. TOTALLY AMAZING how much EASIER to grasp the boom. Keen to strip my new boom down & VGRIP it as well!! Seriously worth the day or so effort to complete. AWESOME...

Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
8 Mar 2017 5:35PM
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Nice job olskool. Looks good , I know it feels great .It really is a good thing , we just got to keep this secret to ourselves.

azuli
QLD, 348 posts
19 Mar 2017 1:30PM
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Regripped my NP X9 in cork this morning. Thanks to Seabreezer IMC for all the helpful info!




Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
19 Mar 2017 6:05PM
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Looks healthy like a musli bar , neat job.
Let us know what it feels like in the water.

mark62
500 posts
5 Dec 2017 7:27AM
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I think I'm going to regrip a boom using cork. I can find modelling cork in 1mm and 1.5mm. Is thus going to be tough enough?

Any tips would be great.....

Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
5 Dec 2017 9:48AM
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Im not sure how cork would last . Plain cork sheet is porous and very weak and crumbly so i wouldn't use that . There is cork and rubber mix sheet that is used for rocker cover gaskets that is slightly stronger . The cork sheet used on boom grips is probably a specialized cork and EVA mix or something similar . I wouldn't know where to get that from.

Mark _australia
WA, 22423 posts
5 Dec 2017 12:04PM
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I also wondered about cork....

Some really neat jobs done in this thread though !!!

mikey100
QLD, 1052 posts
5 Dec 2017 5:27PM
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The cork/rubber is available from Supercheap.


R1DER
WA, 1461 posts
5 Dec 2017 8:34PM
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Great thread just trying to work out what you did, have you put the severne enigma grip on plus extra yellow grip ?
Is vee grip seriously that much more comfortable? Where did you put your seams inside , outside bottom , top ?

MartinF2
QLD, 484 posts
5 Dec 2017 10:42PM
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Totally unrelated but these are super nice x-booms.com/

mark62
500 posts
6 Dec 2017 7:53AM
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Nice find, rubberised cork looks like it'll do the job.

those xbooms look great, I think they started the cork thing!

Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
6 Dec 2017 10:05AM
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That rubberized cork is not that tough , it still rips very easily . Maybe when its glued down ??? I would still think it would crumble.
Hows your boom going azuli ?

mark62
500 posts
6 Dec 2017 8:48AM
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Cut off view for xbooms. Looks roughly 2mm thick

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
6 Dec 2017 2:30PM
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The grip fell of my Maui carbon wave boom and yesterday i taped over the many missing bits with one inch wide Elastoplast tape.

Used it yesterday for the first time and never noticed a difference.

Cork sounds a great solution but I'm useless with my hands.

Getting a boom regripped is not cheap,I'll stick with the tape.

Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
6 Dec 2017 5:58PM
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Is vee grip seriously that much more comfortable?


Yes , by a mile ! Especially with the spongy V part . Even the solid v grips are way better.
Only use half the effort to hang on.
Mine has had a heap of use and still looks brand new.
All my other body parts give up way before my hands and arms do.
Whoever comes up with a profiled replacement boom grip is going to sell a hell of a lot of them.
Ive looked into it , a lot , the EVA foam used for grip is sliced from a block of foam , this opens the air voids in the foam which gives the grip needed . You can't profile cut it this way . One way is to inject mould which would be very expensive at this size . Also it would leave a shiny skin which would be bad and end up solid not foamy in such a thin profile. I'm sure you cant extrude foam in this thin shape and again it would leave a shiny skin.
The only way I can think of is to glue the V profile to a flat strip , but it would have to be pre curved before gluing. Major work.
Or just sell the V lump.
It needs to be a one piece thing.
If anyone knows of a way to do this we should talk !

Sparky
WA, 1121 posts
6 Dec 2017 6:15PM
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The elastoplast grip does seem to be a very cheap, effective method. Popular in WA

R1DER
WA, 1461 posts
6 Dec 2017 8:23PM
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Any physiotherapists here that can explain why this shape is better and reqires less effortcto hold on ? Just curious.

olskool
QLD, 2446 posts
7 Dec 2017 3:37AM
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olskool said..





Great thread just trying to work out what you did, have you put the severne enigma grip on plus extra yellow grip ?
Is vee grip seriously that much more comfortable? Where did you put your seams inside , outside bottom , top ?


Ive used Severne grip either end with yellow grip where harness lines go. Just one layer.Did this so i can mark different positions for different sails.
So imagine the tube as a clock. Looking at tube from rear on starboard side. I put V part at 9-10 oclock,the join is at 5 oclock. Finger tips seem to grip to about 6oclock when sailing.
I have absolutely punished this ol boom n still going strong. Unique grip job has everyone wondering what boom is that? Whered you get that? Hahaha its a 90s gaastra relic.

olskool
QLD, 2446 posts
7 Dec 2017 4:06AM
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Comfort wise i find it slightly changes the angle of pull at the wrists. Also fits into the bent fingers nicely. Spreading the load from just the palm / fingers junction area. Ive just got a new boom ( round). Have sailed it many times. Seem to fatigue quicker than usual???. ( lightbulb moment) Hhmmm looks like i may have to Vgrip the 250 raceboom.

Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
7 Dec 2017 8:37AM
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Like olskool says , the smaller V profile sits nicely in curled fingers and the tips of the fingers sit under the hump . Both stop the fingers unrolling off the boom. Saves energy in two ways , you dont need as much grip force saving the fingers and i think more importantly because the fingers dont unroll off the boom as easily you dont need as much forearm strength to keep pushing the knuckles forward. So you dont seem to get arm pump as easily and when you do its still so much easier to hang on to.
olskool has his hump slightly offset , i have mine at 90 degrees , both seem to work wonders



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