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Is windsurfing popularity still declining?

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Created by SWS > 9 months ago, 11 Aug 2011
kato
VIC, 3407 posts
7 Sep 2011 5:33PM
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Mrgob said...
Those who have only ever been short board high octane windsurfers will eventually become bored after long enough, and move on to other sports. Seen it happen to far too many others!


Its being 20+ yrs on a short board.....when am i supose to get bored????

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
7 Sep 2011 4:09PM
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I became "bored" when I got too heavy for my board so I just got a bigger board more scaled to my weight and it will still be a short board (well more or less )!

fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
8 Sep 2011 1:04AM
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[b]barn said...

Windsurfer falling off the plane is a Windsurfer that has stopped working..

Everybody gets annoyed when their windsurfer stops working..

Longboarding was once....


exzackry...a big windsurfer will stay on the plane longer than a small windsurfer so the answer is a big windsurfer is better than a small windsurfer


Sabine
4 posts
8 Sep 2011 7:53AM
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well, actually there are quite a lot of grey-haired who are fantastic windsurfers and know to do pretty cool moves... maybe they should start dyeing ;-)



slalomfreak said...

If kids over 13 have to hang out with their parents to learn how to windsurf thats very very uncool.
Target group is the over 18's with their own wheels.
Problem is they have got to want to do it.
Make it cool again and they will come.
With so much grey hair at the ws beach can it ever be cool?



Mrgob
116 posts
9 Sep 2011 10:21AM
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SWS, 2 to 3 day sea journeys around islands, camping as you go, that kind of thing. It's a different mindset to normal windsurfing. The journey is the satisfaction, not the speed.

Longboarding hasn't 'died in the ass,' whatever that might mean. Nor is longboarding unchanged. (Modern rigs make a difference.) My Kona 1 typically planes in the mid 20 m.p.h. range when lit up, yet is a satisfying all rounder in less than planing conditions. Plenty of others must agree since it sells well enough.

As for getting bored, many found so when they bought into the short board image over function con for their non high wind sailing locations. Endlessly sitting in the car park talking, and waiting for something to happen p****d them right off! Image didn't match reality, so they left for more accessible sports!

barn
WA, 2960 posts
9 Sep 2011 12:09PM
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Mrgob said...

SWS, 2 to 3 day sea journeys around islands, camping as you go, that kind of thing. It's a different mindset to normal windsurfing. The journey is the satisfaction, not the speed.
Could do that in a dinghy..

Longboarding hasn't 'died in the ass,' whatever that might mean. Nor is longboarding unchanged. (Modern rigs make a difference.) My Kona 1 typically planes in the mid 20 m.p.h. range when lit up, yet is a satisfying all rounder in less than planing conditions. Plenty of others must agree since it sells well enough.


My understanding is that back in the day there were longboards piled 2 high on every lake and beach.. These boards are all under sheds or accumulating in landfills.. This is dying in the ass..

As for getting bored, many found so when they bought into the short board image over function con for their non high wind sailing locations. Endlessly sitting in the car park talking, and waiting for something to happen p****d them right off! Image didn't match reality, so they left for more accessible sports!


Exactly, shortboard was the natural evolution to plodding round a lake on ya wally,.. Pitty that it's never windy.. Stagnation resulted..

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
9 Sep 2011 6:44PM
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Let's look at surfing as an example of what happens over time. Started with longboards then the boards got shorter and shorter they got more and more rocker. You couldn't find a longboard anywhere, you also couldn't even get a blank to make a longboard. Then the sport became more and more elitist. If you weren't on the latest tiny banana board you were a kook. Then one day everyone grew up, longboards came back cause they actually work for a majority of people. Look at your local beach you will see short boards longboards and a variety of hybrids. Participation is the key more people means more $s means more choice. Economics 101 people. I predict that over time we will see more people rocking around lakes on SUPs with and without sails. This summer there will be some light wind wave sailing happening which is good for the sport. There will always be elitist Rosetta around that will tell you that unless your on the shortest, fattest, roundest, latest shape your a tool, but as long as your doing it and you love what your doing the tool is them.

DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
9 Sep 2011 6:56PM
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Yawn.....

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
9 Sep 2011 7:06PM
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gregc said...

Let's look at surfing as an example of what happens over time. Started with longboards then the boards got shorter and shorter they got more and more rocker. You couldn't find a longboard anywhere, you also couldn't even get a blank to make a longboard. Then the sport became more and more elitist. If you weren't on the latest tiny banana board you were a kook. Then one day everyone grew up, longboards came back cause they actually work for a majority of people. Look at your local beach you will see short boards longboards and a variety of hybrids. Participation is the key more people means more $s means more choice. Economics 101 people. I predict that over time we will see more people rocking around lakes on SUPs with and without sails. This summer there will be some light wind wave sailing happening which is good for the sport. There will always be elitist Rosetta around that will tell you that unless your on the shortest, fattest, roundest, latest shape your a tool, but as long as your doing it and you love what your doing the tool is them.


Windsurfing has already gone through this. Compare a short board from the 80s or 90s to one of today. They are completely different in shape. The modern shaped boards do get on, and stay on the plane much more easily than the older thinner type of board. When I first rode a modern shaped board, a Tabou Rocket 140, I was amazed at how easily it planed and comfortable it was on the plane.

Of course short boards are not the answer for all windsurfers. Sometimes its enough to cruise around on a board designed for non planing conditions.

Hopefully the SUP craze will reinvigorate windsurfing. Suppers need to know that its much more fun to sail than to paddle.

barn
WA, 2960 posts
9 Sep 2011 5:36PM
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Look at your local beach you will see short boards longboards and a variety of hybrids


I look at my local break and notice all surfboards plane, so do waveboard in 3 knots when on a wave..

I predict that over time we will see more people rocking around lakes on SUPs with and without sails.


Suping on a lake is closer to canoeing, without the beard.. Lake Sups can't be counted as active Surfers.. Why should we count Sups with a sail as active True Windsurfers...

Mrgob
116 posts
9 Sep 2011 6:02PM
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Quote; (With regard to sea cruising on a long board.)

' Could do that in a dinghy.'

And short board blasting?

Could do that on a jet ski!!! (And faster, and in less wind.)

There's none so blind as those who cannot see!

Also, in what way is a large highly rockered compromise poor planing S.U.P. board superior to any designed for the job racing longboard? If proper longboards supposedly couldn't hold people in our sport, are are thought to have disappeared up their own backsides, how is an inferior sailing design supposed to do the trick?

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
9 Sep 2011 8:51PM
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Barn have you actually ever tried anything else but windsurfing? Cause at the moment you can't actually make a reasonable argument. All surfboards plane, yes on a wave. Do they all behave the same, that would be a no. Does anyone care as long as they are having fun and participating once again a no.

SUP is dull mmm once again a statement bourne of the ignorance that comes with a narrow mind.

Sailboarding has not as yet matured as a sport we are still experimenting but one day it may get there. I still stand by the statement that tossers who are a bit narrow minded will tell you that unless your gear is the latest your a kook. My advice would be that if you are that narrow minded then your the kook

albers
NSW, 1737 posts
9 Sep 2011 9:09PM
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If this topic gets to 13 pages, then bad luck will befall all those who have posted (including me).

Your mast will snap 1 kilometre from the beach for no apparent reason.

Your boom will collapse on the side that you need to get back to the beach with.

Your fin will drop out of its slot.

Be warned - the end (of this topic) is nigh!

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
9 Sep 2011 9:32PM
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barn said...

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Why should we count Sups with a sail as active True Windsurfers...


Simple: those who go out often are active, regardless of how they do it and the wind. I don't go out much in those winds myself, but I would not have the pretension of telling other people they're not active while I sit on me arse.

Are not active at windsurfing: those with the trailer who claim to be good but we don't know because they seldom go out, and when they do they're rather average because they seldom go out. Complaining about the wind cannot be considered an activity, IMO.

I don't consider skiers who get out 3 times a year active skiers, in fact, I don't even call them skiers at all. Nice equipment though.

I don't consider those who go to Bangkok on holidays for sex to be sexually active either, by the way. (I'm just using the previous analogy of going on holidays here...)

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
9 Sep 2011 10:34PM
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Interesting

Robbie Naish does everything
Dave Kalama does everything
Mike Waltze does everything
Pete cabrinha does everything

Barn does one thing

A lesson in that for all of us

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
9 Sep 2011 10:43PM
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i don't believe it, is anyone going to neutralize SWS's red thumb

KA360
NSW, 803 posts
9 Sep 2011 10:48PM
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gregc said...

Interesting

Robbie Naish does everything
Dave Kalama does everything
Mike Waltze does everything
Pete cabrinha does everything

Barn does one thing

A lesson in that for all of us



Barney we should move to Hawaii like those 4 guys

barn
WA, 2960 posts
9 Sep 2011 8:52PM
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gregc said...

Barn have you actually ever tried anything else but windsurfing?


Nope, I get wheeled around like Hannibal Lecter, only to be released when it's 30 knots..

gregc said...
SUP is dull mmm once again a statement bourne of the ignorance that comes with a narrow mind.


Did I say Suping on a lake was dull? NOPE!!.. I said it was like canoeing...

I said longboarding was like dingy sailing..

Nothing is like True Windsurfing.. not even a jetski (WTF)

barn
WA, 2960 posts
9 Sep 2011 8:55PM
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KA360 said...

gregc said...

Interesting

Robbie Naish does everything
Dave Kalama does everything
Mike Waltze does everything
Pete cabrinha does everything

Barn does one thing

A lesson in that for all of us



Barney we should move to Hawaii like those 4 guys



lol, Mike Waltze? what is this the Aloha Classic II.. I would do everything also if I lived in Maui... Kinda what I have been saying??

How come Richie Myers and Doug Hunt didn't get a mention??

DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
9 Sep 2011 11:11PM
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We have gone a bit off topic, but for the record I tried stand up paddle ..... It's ssh ite, a lot of effort for nothing And after 5 mins quite boring IMO.


"canoeing, without a beard" ..... That's Gold

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
9 Sep 2011 11:17PM
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It would seem to me that there are a heap of actual watermen in oz unfortunately it would not seem that barn is one of them.

Once again barn trumpets that everyone that disagrees with him is a cock. Truth is that barn is a poor little man that does not actually do anything other than sail when it's macking. Pity that's only once a month or less

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
9 Sep 2011 11:25PM
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Lol dr j the man that doesn't get the whole Aussie lifestyle , gold

DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
9 Sep 2011 11:29PM
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^^^ wtf? I think someone is a little overtired and needs a nap?

Underoath
QLD, 2433 posts
9 Sep 2011 11:33PM
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Windsurfing is for pensioners who havent quite hit the nursing home yet.


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and cant get it up!

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
9 Sep 2011 11:42PM
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Dr J = the English lifestyle in oz. Can't surf don't want to lol. Almost Barn but not as flexible lol

DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
9 Sep 2011 11:46PM
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Really Greg? You wanna start getting personal?? Really? You sure about that?

Underoath
QLD, 2433 posts
9 Sep 2011 11:59PM
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Hang on.....Dr J or Dr G ????

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
10 Sep 2011 12:01AM
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Surf can u? Dr j

Learn?

No time for other stuff? Shall I quote your SUP stuff?

So let's not go there at all shall we.

Ive got the ****s with all the people that pay out on what they can't or won't do. I'm tired of the bull**** that goes on. I'm sick to death of the ****ing bull**** that people who won't/can't do anything but one thing go on with to save their poor little egos.

So when you can do more than one thing then come and talk to me, otherwise let people be and stop the crap.

barn
WA, 2960 posts
9 Sep 2011 10:06PM
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gregc said...


Ive got the ****s with all the people that pay out on what they can't or won't do. I'm tired of the bull**** that goes on. I'm sick to death of the ****ing bull**** that people who won't/can't do anything but one thing go on with to save their poor little egos.

Epic, I read this in John McEnroes voice..lol

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
10 Sep 2011 12:07AM
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Thanks barn for just confirming your status as lead cock



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