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Created by fpw9082 > 9 months ago, 10 Sep 2018
PKenny
SA, 239 posts
12 Sep 2018 9:23PM
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Peter Ross OES

hoop
1979 posts
12 Sep 2018 8:12PM
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Geoff Hillwood - Wave Scalpel

hoop
1979 posts
12 Sep 2018 8:48PM
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Bondalucci said..
Bob Margets -Mad Dog
Arthur Brett -Trigger Bros


Good call on Bob Margets. I used to sail with him, George Greenough and all the other Byron / Lennox crew in the mid 90's.
George was on his epoxy / EPS spoon boards that weighed next to nothing. He had super light , small rigs with wide luff sleeves and skinny masts which was pretty radical at the time.
Bob was shaping some sweet looking wave boards with single concave all the way through, which was also a pretty new concept then.
At that time I was working at Multi Fin ,making the Larry Tuttle fins. I think my official job title then was "sanding bitch"
I was starting to shape a few more boards around this time, some were ok and some were pretty terrible!
Fun times!
****, I feel old now :(

fpw9082
QLD, 173 posts
12 Sep 2018 11:23PM
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Mark _australia said..
Tiesda You?


And really people, come on. ................. MWSails




I did not read all topic about MWsails,because I dont have time and nerves to read all this ****s at 500 posts..Especailly I hate long posts.

Can you tell me why lot of members of this forum hate this man so much?

(english is not my mother tongue,maybe I just dont understand Australian humor)

RichardG
WA, 3747 posts
12 Sep 2018 9:47PM
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hoop said..



Bondalucci said..
Bob Margets -Mad Dog
Arthur Brett -Trigger Bros





Good call on Bob Margets. I used to sail with him, George Greenough and all the other Byron / Lennox crew in the mid 90's.
George was on his epoxy / EPS spoon boards that weighed next to nothing. He had super light , small rigs with wide luff sleeves and skinny masts which was pretty radical at the time.
Bob was shaping some sweet looking wave boards with single concave all the way through, which was also a pretty new concept then.
At that time I was working at Multi Fin ,making the Larry Tuttle fins. I think my official job title then was "sanding bitch"
I was starting to shape a few more boards around this time, some were ok and some were pretty terrible!
Fun times!
****, I feel old now :(




Brilliant Hoop. Great adventure and a life rich in windsurfing history, so far.

RichardG
WA, 3747 posts
12 Sep 2018 9:52PM
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Highwinds, Cottesloe
(unknown shaper-maybe Ken Eichenberg and Gill Stubbs)

Blaxell, Scarborough
(shaped by Darryl Wilkes)

Murray Smith/Bombora/HiTech WA
(shaped by Adan Nicolson)

Precision Equip, Margaret River
(shaped by Tom Hoye)

Paducah
2530 posts
12 Sep 2018 10:30PM
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TurnBackTime said..


Mark _australia said..
Tiesda You?


And really people, come on. ................. MWSails






I did not read all topic about MWsails,because I dont have time and nerves to read all this ****s at 500 posts..Especailly I hate long posts.

Can you tell me why lot of members of this forum hate this man so much?

(english is not my mother tongue,maybe I just dont understand Australian humor)



NIS: Narcissistic inventor syndrome. "All others before me were idiots and only I know the true path. My objective testing consists of some GoPro footage of blasting past some rec/freeride sailors. I can't be chuffed to use GPS, competition or experienced windsurfers for feedback." Also see frp/xyz mentioned above.

You are wise not to wade through those pages.

Back to the topic at hand - being from a different hemisphere, I appreciate getting to know unfamiliar names and their contributions.

fpw9082
QLD, 173 posts
13 Sep 2018 3:39AM
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This is not innovation,first wing sail was before almost 30 years.All attemts never had much succes,because wing is unsailable,too rigid ,too small twist etc.

OESaustralia
SA, 278 posts
13 Sep 2018 6:16AM
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Sean Ordonez / S O S
Keith Teboul/ Quatro
Bill Foote/ Hi Tech
Craig Masonville / Hi tech
Dave Mal /Sailboards Maui
Jimmy Lewis / Jimmy Lewis

joe windsurf
1480 posts
13 Sep 2018 4:48AM
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Jeff Brown/JBD of the Ice Ratz - Jeff Brown Design
makes his own boards and sails ...

Mark _australia
WA, 22303 posts
13 Sep 2018 4:34PM
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Still missing one verrrry influential Aussie....

ratz
WA, 472 posts
13 Sep 2018 5:30PM
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phil McGain ?

Mark _australia
WA, 22303 posts
13 Sep 2018 5:48PM
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^^ actually -yes a lot to do with racing sail design.

nah, thinking waveboards though

TGale
TAS, 301 posts
13 Sep 2018 8:11PM
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Peter Nitschke / NXS

Subsonic
WA, 3087 posts
13 Sep 2018 6:48PM
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Mark _australia said..
^^ actually -yes a lot to do with racing sail design.

nah, thinking waveboards though



Did JP actually ever do board design/shaping?

(One way or the other, Im probably making myself look like a complete idiot here.... i don't actually know the answer.)

NotWal
QLD, 7428 posts
13 Sep 2018 9:48PM
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Pete Cochran - Wind Action
JV (?) - JV sails.
Bruce Peterson - Sailworks

John340
QLD, 3105 posts
13 Sep 2018 9:51PM
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kato said..
Chris Lockwood- Mistral
James Dinnis- Carbon Art
AMAC- Wild Winds/ Ka Sails



Chris Lockwood - Tribal

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
13 Sep 2018 9:51PM
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Jim French

NelsonFoils
190 posts
13 Sep 2018 8:35PM
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Rob Mulder Roberts




Mark _australia
WA, 22303 posts
13 Sep 2018 8:52PM
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Subsonic said..

Mark _australia said..
^^ actually -yes a lot to do with racing sail design.

nah, thinking waveboards though




Did JP actually ever do board design/shaping?

(One way or the other, Im probably making myself look like a complete idiot here.... i don't actually know the answer.)


You are close- verrrry


Mike Di Sciascio shaping Strapper, and JP riding them
I still recall a wavesailing instructional video in the mid 1990's saying how influential his wave boards were and how now "everyone is on a Mike Di Sciascio/JP rocker line"


That seriously has to be the nucleus of modern waveboard design

alvadave
QLD, 70 posts
14 Sep 2018 5:42PM
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My old mate Darrell " Rooster " Dell - Force Four
Phil McGain won a big pro race at the gorge on one of his boards. Glenn Barratt's long standing Australian womens speed sailing record was on a rooster shape. His hull bottomed slalom boards were a work of art.

Dan Engdahl - Wind FX / Viteese
Mike Maguire - Mike Maguire Custom Sailboards/ Hot Buttered?/ Jet




ka43
NSW, 3072 posts
14 Sep 2018 6:09PM
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Bruce Heggie, Ulladulla.
John Hall, master shaper in pommy land and then Hybrid in Sydney.
Kai Hopf, Vortex and now North Sails.

RichardG
WA, 3747 posts
14 Sep 2018 4:59PM
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Bombora. Mark Paul invented the shortboard. See in circa 1980, the wide board ( very short about 6'5" behind him).


Bombora

Ken Winner so many innovations and designs:

1997 Designed, raced and promoted the first modern wide, short boards, precursors of the current Formula boards.
1995 Developed and patented the anti-ventilation skirt, a device that improves the speed of shortboards in light to moderate winds.
1990 Together with brother Karl Winner, developed an automated, computerized speed trap for windsurfers.
1986 With Larry Tuttle developed "pointer" fins, the first spinout-resistant, highly efficient racing fins. This basic design won the pro worlds in 1986 through 1989.
1985 With Larry Tuttle developed the Tuttle box, fin box of choice among racers.
1981 Built some of the first "sinker" wave boards and was one of the first to sail them at Hookipa, the sport's premier surf-sailing venue.[note some, not the first- that is because Mark Paul did that....at least some say he did anyway..!]
1981 Ken Winner developed the adjustable mast track.
1980 Co-authored a popular windsurfing how-to book.
1980 Developed the carving jibe, a maneuver currently used by all intermediate and advanced windsurfers.
1979 Developed the adjustable boom with Larry Stanley.

Chris 249
NSW, 3309 posts
14 Sep 2018 8:18PM
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alvadave said..






I not only remember that article, I have a copy of that mag from very close to that time still around. Those were the days when you waved at someone else with a windsurfer on their roof, only a year or two before they were everywhere.

olskool
QLD, 2445 posts
15 Sep 2018 3:13AM
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NotWal said..
Pete Cochran - Wind Action
JV (?) - JV sails.
Bruce Peterson - Sailworks

JV = Jaap Voogd

albers
NSW, 1737 posts
15 Sep 2018 6:39AM
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Peter Chilvers apparently invented the first sailboard in 1958

TGale
TAS, 301 posts
15 Sep 2018 12:12PM
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Damien Wallace / Jay Sails

510sub
NSW, 33 posts
15 Sep 2018 8:19PM
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Mike Davis.

Chris 249
NSW, 3309 posts
15 Sep 2018 9:05PM
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TurnBackTime said..
This is not innovation,first wing sail was before almost 30 years.All attemts never had much succes,because wing is unsailable,too rigid ,too small twist etc.


You're right about that. MW, though, just insults the people who tried them before. He also insults the people who haven't tried them, the experts who tell us when they work and when they don't and why, and the people who ask him for proof of his claims.

Chris 249
NSW, 3309 posts
15 Sep 2018 9:08PM
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Hughes de Turkheim for Tiga
Craig Stroetzel was designing lots of the world's best raceboards when he was killed in a skateboarding accident.
Rick Naish
Georg Lechner for Division 2 boards
Matt Kevlin for the "tanker" tandem that became the original Windsurfer.



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