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Lüderitz Speed Challenge

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Created by seanhogan > 9 months ago, 1 Nov 2012
elmo
WA, 8723 posts
21 Nov 2012 9:50PM
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sailquik said...
it will be really interesting to see how long it takes for Bjorn to get dialed in.




Hope he's not like the rest of us (pretty certain he's not)

Get down the run late on a cranking day only to realize he'd left his harness and booms at home

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
22 Nov 2012 1:22AM
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Not long it seems! Bjorn just did 46 knots on his very first run!!

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
22 Nov 2012 1:24AM
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elmo said...
sailquik said...
it will be really interesting to see how long it takes for Bjorn to get dialed in.




Hope he's not like the rest of us (pretty certain he's not)

Get down the run late on a cranking day only to realize he'd left his harness and booms at home



That reminds me. Did you see the video where Anders tried to start the run with his fin cover still on the fin! He is human after all! I can admit now that I have done that myself!

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
22 Nov 2012 6:30AM
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is Bjorn there yet?

quote :
Hey, after 55 hours of traveling we made it to the Luderitz Speed Challenge around 13:00. I did around 10 runs in great condition 30-40 knots of wind. First 47, then 48 knots then, 49, so improving! ;-) With 52.55 GPS top speed pretty happy about the first day on the water!! ;-) So long, Björn

choco
SA, 4032 posts
22 Nov 2012 8:44AM
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seanhogan said...


is Bjorn there yet?

quote :
Hey, after 55 hours of traveling we made it to the Luderitz Speed Challenge around 13:00. I did around 10 runs in great condition 30-40 knots of wind. First 47, then 48 knots then, 49, so improving! ;-) With 52.55 GPS top speed pretty happy about the first day on the water!! ;-) So long, Björn


55 hours wow did he sail there

REDhat
37 posts
22 Nov 2012 7:26AM
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sailquik said...
elmo said...
sailquik said...
it will be really interesting to see how long it takes for Bjorn to get dialed in.




Hope he's not like the rest of us (pretty certain he's not)

Get down the run late on a cranking day only to realize he'd left his harness and booms at home



That reminds me. Did you see the video where Anders tried to start the run with his fin cover still on the fin! He is human after all! I can admit now that I have done that myself!


With a couple of years more seniorority and "experience" you may be able to complete a run before noticing.

jusavina
QLD, 1463 posts
22 Nov 2012 9:53AM
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Found on facebook

choco
SA, 4032 posts
22 Nov 2012 10:57AM
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Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
22 Nov 2012 10:39AM
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Ah well I've got her on the nm.

Te Hau
479 posts
22 Nov 2012 9:18AM
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sausage said...
Ah well I've got her on the nm.


and the pie eating

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
22 Nov 2012 12:02PM
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Te Hau said...
sausage said...
Ah well I've got her on the nm.


and the pie eating


Very funny Mike....you'll keep

Jezstrt
TAS, 1471 posts
22 Nov 2012 1:07PM
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choco said...
Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy


I wonder how much lead weight she carries

Magnus8
QLD, 364 posts
22 Nov 2012 12:26PM
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Jezstrt said...
choco said...
Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy


I wonder how much lead weight she carries


Who knows, but I have a little more now

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
22 Nov 2012 1:05PM
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I've just noticed that the nissan Cedric (Bordes) has posted a new 2 sec peak record of 53.71 kn
www.gps-speedsurfing.com/default.aspx?mnu=rankings&Year=-&Tab=0&Gender=0&WeightClass=0&AgeClass=0&SpeedType=8

lao shi
SA, 1293 posts
22 Nov 2012 1:46PM
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Who is going to crack the 100Km/h first?
53.71 is 99.47... so close.
My money is on the Terminator but is he wearing a GPS?

Speeds are so close that they are basically the same if they come from just one GPS just within margin of error.

Haggar
QLD, 1664 posts
22 Nov 2012 4:36PM
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Its great to see that the top speeds are being acheived on such a wide variety of brand of kit.

fitz66
QLD, 575 posts
22 Nov 2012 4:50PM
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Hey Magnus, take youre hand off your rdm extension while thinking about Lena. Hows tricks Haggar?

Haggar
QLD, 1664 posts
22 Nov 2012 5:50PM
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yeah I always thought Magnus was a RDM kind of guy

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
22 Nov 2012 8:36PM
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lao shi said...
Who is going to crack the 100Km/h first?
53.71 is 99.47... so close.
My money is on the Terminator but is he wearing a GPS?

Speeds are so close that they are basically the same if they come from just one GPS just within margin of error.




Right on Lao. With a single gps, the error margins are commonly around 0.3 knots. Some test figures I have seen comparing gated runs to GPS runs show that most of the runs are well within this margin, but there are a few that are around that margin (both sides), so to be 99% certain you have gone at least the the claimed speed, you would have to deduct the possible error.

On the other hand, there is a good chance that the numbers could be actually representative of the true difference. [}:)]

sailquik
VIC, 6090 posts
22 Nov 2012 8:40PM
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choco said...
Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy



Yes Choco, I had already noticed that.

No pressure hey?

Her results are inspiring to say the least!

lao shi
SA, 1293 posts
22 Nov 2012 8:27PM
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sailquik said...
lao shi said...
Who is going to crack the 100Km/h first?
53.71 is 99.47... so close.
My money is on the Terminator but is he wearing a GPS?

Speeds are so close that they are basically the same if they come from just one GPS just within margin of error.




Right on Lao. With a single gps, the error margins are commonly around 0.3 knots. Some test figures I have seen comparing gated runs to GPS runs show that most of the runs are well within this margin, but there are a few that are around that margin (both sides), so to be 99% certain you have gone at least the the claimed speed, you would have to deduct the possible error.

On the other hand, there is a good chance that the numbers could be actually representative of the true difference. [}:)]


So over 2 secs (if my maths is correct) a difference in distance of about 25cm from first to fourth which would be about a board length over the 500m. Pretty close.

vando
QLD, 3416 posts
22 Nov 2012 8:04PM
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choco said...
Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy



yep she very small got a photo of me and her at the defi somewhere

stroppo
WA, 728 posts
22 Nov 2012 9:04PM
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Well can Dunky dunk the hundered if not i hope somebody doz!!!!

JustinL
NSW, 467 posts
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23 Nov 2012 4:36PM
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Put your hand out of the car window next time you are doing 100km
Its so fast!!

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
23 Nov 2012 1:39PM
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JustinL said...
Put your hand out of the car window next time you are doing 100km
Its so fast!!


which begs the question . Why no body streamlining?

DarrylG
WA, 495 posts
23 Nov 2012 3:48PM
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How about drafting. Cool to see 6 guys on the course at once.

AUS1111
WA, 3619 posts
23 Nov 2012 4:34PM
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yoyo said...
[ Why no body streamlining?


This dude does 70 knots on ice (or is it land?);

www.gps-icesailing.com/default.aspx?mnu=user&val=41404&uid=248

I wonder what he's wearing besides a helmet.

I'm no scientist but it seems there is lot more drag going on under our feet that could be improved before we worry about what's on top. There is nothing very aerodynamic about A2!

jdemol
NSW, 25 posts
23 Nov 2012 9:25PM
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yoyo said...
JustinL said...
Put your hand out of the car window next time you are doing 100km
Its so fast!!


which begs the question . Why no body streamlining?


I think the body air drag is not that critical because traveling at 50 kts in 40 kts of wind at a broad angle the apparent wind they're experiencing would be pretty light.

Dr Speed
68 posts
23 Nov 2012 7:27PM
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That´s true:

Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
23 Nov 2012 8:25PM
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Yes the 58 kph in Dr Speed's diagram is less but not insignificant.

Putting in a few estimates, put in yours if you like, Cd for a person 1.0, cross sectional area presented to wind 0.5 sq metres, density of air 1.2 kg/m^3, 58 kph = 16 m/sec. Put those estimates in the drag equation ie. drag = 1/2 Cd A rho V squared and get drag = 76.8 newtons. (7.8 kg).

Looks like from Dr Speed's diagram only about Sin 45 of that is in direction of travel = 5.46 kg. The other 5.46 kg transverse to the direction of travel adds load to the fin, but the fin has a good lift to drag of say 20:1? 10:1 ?? (I've never been able to wind up a fin designer sufficiently for them to hazard a guess on this ) So maybe add 0.5 kg of extra fin drag to give 6 kg drag opposing the direction of travel. That's a fair bit, how much would streamlining reduce that by?




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