Select to expand quoteBWalnut said..zimboflyman said..
Really appreciate the massive writeup and insights - thanks!As you move from wider boards / larger foil combo to narrower board / smaller foils, can you give us an idea on how it feels / learning curve?I guess i'm asking if its more difficult to ride smaller foils and narrower board coming from bigger ones.
I'm 65kg riding 95Litre 6ft x 28'' board and 1900 foil - up riding both directions and sometimes making my jibes, but don't enjoy the hard work (lack of technique -haha ) of tryna get off the water in lighter winds, so super keen to go more narrow and downsize the foil and wing to save my shoulders.
But maybe I need to improve more before changing down? - something like a Kalama e3 5'9'' x 22.5" sounds appealing as heck, but might be biting off too much?
I can't tell you how many people came to me with the same problem, riding a big foil and struggling on jibes while riding a big board.
First thing I did for everyone is let them switch from their big foils down onto my fs1150. Probably 95% of people came back screaming "I have to buy this!!!!" My buddy even was a test rider from me, he took a 1900 out for two sessions to learn (his first two sessions ever) and then switched to my fs1150. He went from barely able to ride and breaching to doing full reaches on foil right away. Only 1 guy all year didn't jump on the 1150 after trying it and TBH it was an ultralight day and he was very new so it made sense that he wasn't blown away.
I, myself, was bouncing back and forth between a 1210 and a 1500 (I learned on the 1500) and I was not progressing at all. I had to touch down on all my jibes to switch my feet, it felt impossible to switch in the air and I was kind of over winging to be honest. I would have quit and gone back to kiting if I hadn't broken my ribs to start the season (and couldn't wear my kite harness). Instead of quitting I doubled down and bought the entire Cloud IX fs foil quiver. Switching to the 1150 and 1000 as my new foil combo was life altering for me right out the gate. The 1150, is far superior to the 1000 IMO which is why I have everyone try that foil. The smaller foils will also result in less fatigue and impact on your body when you are up and riding, Believe it or not the drag in the water translates straight into your wrists, shoulders, core, and wears you down.
So yes, size down that foil ASAP. I tell everyone that as soon as you can consistently get up and ride straight (not even jibe) it's time to size down.
For the board: If you had the 8' x 21" kalama that I had it would blow your current board away. Of course, the water start would be easier. Hard to conceive but incredibly valuable to note is that it would also turn better and go upwind better.
IMO your board LENGTH changes the stability of your ride more than the width when you are bobbing in the water. You probably have a 75-85cm mast and if you end up with a medium high aspect foil like the 1150 it creates and insane amount of roll resistance while you are in the water kneeling on the board. So, falling off the side is quite easy to adapt to. The length however, is where you find you'll struggle if you go terribly shorter. 5'9" should not be a hard jump from 6'. My 5'3' x 22" kalama does cause me to fall off the back or over the front in rough seas from time to time though. Never off the side. (try before you buy if possible on the kalama. His track boxes aren't always in the best spots).
The biggest benefit towards your progression in your circumstance with a narrow board is going to be that you will stop worrying about falling. You can fall anytime, anywhere, with confidence that you can easily get back up onto foil without expending a ton of energy. Not being afraid to fall, unlocks progression to the *th level because you just start trying so many more movements on the water! Once you get it sorted and have a smaller wing in hand, if you're like me, you'll be able to foil for 3 hour sessions, without a break, without a harness, for the entire season, pain free. All that saved energy and body stress from the smaller wing allows you to focus on taking more chances on foil, and pushing your progression that much harder.
So yes, size down your board too!
Summary:
You may have a break in period of a day or two to adapt to the new foils/boards but then you are off to the races and will be having more fun than ever.
If you get a narrow board it will allow you to use smaller wings and and smaller foils.
You will save tons of energy while reducing wear and tear on your body.
You'll be inspired to try riskier maneuvers with all of your saved energy.
I would not be afraid of going narrow, I would be concerned about going to short.
I really like the Cloud IX foils with an 8.5 aspect ratio. It's a very user friendly AR.
I like a foil span of 92-99cm for beginners to progress on. This will allow you to roll the foil very naturally, without feeling out of control. Larger spans feel stiff in turns. Smaller spans feel twitchy (but you will progress to them, 77cm is my current favorite).
Add a large tail and long fuse to your quiver. Slap that on to any new front foil to activate the easy button for the first few sessions. Then go back to a medium fuse and a medium or small tail to activate it's full powers.
If you're ever in the Columbia River Gorge don't hesitate to hit me up. I'll have extra boards and foils for you to try!
Last, I'm currently working on two additional write ups to compliment my narrow board post. One will be a year end summary. The other will be a writeup on foils. I'll post them as new topics when I finish them and they will probably give you more info and answer more questions.
Happy new year all and thanks for the detailed advice BWalnut and DWF !
Since reading this, I've sold most of my old gear and putting the cash towards following your advice. :) 
Based in the UK I'm probably going with Gong gear. Their Crusader Diamond has the new design tail that I'm seeing on the AFS blackbird and similar dims to many of the hybrid downwind/Wing boards that I'm learning about from this post. For my size at 65kg and just past beginner stage (occasional successful jibes) - I'm thinking of the 90L 5'10'' x 20 1/16'' x 5 11/16"
and going with their newest Medium aspect foils (6.8) (Curve V2) - thinking of going with a 1400 x 98cm and 1200 x 90cm as a base quiver.
My main spot is pretty choppy / swelly and not the easiest place to foil so I'm a little concerned about going this narrow on the board
Be great to get a bit of feedback before forking out the cash!
www.gong-galaxy.com/produit/gong-wing-foil-board-cruzader-diamond-fsp-pro/
www.gong-galaxy.com/produit/gong-foil-allvator-front-wing-curve/
Select to expand quotezimboflyman said..BWalnut said..zimboflyman said..
Really appreciate the massive writeup and insights - thanks!As you move from wider boards / larger foil combo to narrower board / smaller foils, can you give us an idea on how it feels / learning curve?I guess i'm asking if its more difficult to ride smaller foils and narrower board coming from bigger ones.
I'm 65kg riding 95Litre 6ft x 28'' board and 1900 foil - up riding both directions and sometimes making my jibes, but don't enjoy the hard work (lack of technique -haha ) of tryna get off the water in lighter winds, so super keen to go more narrow and downsize the foil and wing to save my shoulders.
But maybe I need to improve more before changing down? - something like a Kalama e3 5'9'' x 22.5" sounds appealing as heck, but might be biting off too much?
I can't tell you how many people came to me with the same problem, riding a big foil and struggling on jibes while riding a big board.
First thing I did for everyone is let them switch from their big foils down onto my fs1150. Probably 95% of people came back screaming "I have to buy this!!!!" My buddy even was a test rider from me, he took a 1900 out for two sessions to learn (his first two sessions ever) and then switched to my fs1150. He went from barely able to ride and breaching to doing full reaches on foil right away. Only 1 guy all year didn't jump on the 1150 after trying it and TBH it was an ultralight day and he was very new so it made sense that he wasn't blown away.
I, myself, was bouncing back and forth between a 1210 and a 1500 (I learned on the 1500) and I was not progressing at all. I had to touch down on all my jibes to switch my feet, it felt impossible to switch in the air and I was kind of over winging to be honest. I would have quit and gone back to kiting if I hadn't broken my ribs to start the season (and couldn't wear my kite harness). Instead of quitting I doubled down and bought the entire Cloud IX fs foil quiver. Switching to the 1150 and 1000 as my new foil combo was life altering for me right out the gate. The 1150, is far superior to the 1000 IMO which is why I have everyone try that foil. The smaller foils will also result in less fatigue and impact on your body when you are up and riding, Believe it or not the drag in the water translates straight into your wrists, shoulders, core, and wears you down.
So yes, size down that foil ASAP. I tell everyone that as soon as you can consistently get up and ride straight (not even jibe) it's time to size down.
For the board: If you had the 8' x 21" kalama that I had it would blow your current board away. Of course, the water start would be easier. Hard to conceive but incredibly valuable to note is that it would also turn better and go upwind better.
IMO your board LENGTH changes the stability of your ride more than the width when you are bobbing in the water. You probably have a 75-85cm mast and if you end up with a medium high aspect foil like the 1150 it creates and insane amount of roll resistance while you are in the water kneeling on the board. So, falling off the side is quite easy to adapt to. The length however, is where you find you'll struggle if you go terribly shorter. 5'9" should not be a hard jump from 6'. My 5'3' x 22" kalama does cause me to fall off the back or over the front in rough seas from time to time though. Never off the side. (try before you buy if possible on the kalama. His track boxes aren't always in the best spots).
The biggest benefit towards your progression in your circumstance with a narrow board is going to be that you will stop worrying about falling. You can fall anytime, anywhere, with confidence that you can easily get back up onto foil without expending a ton of energy. Not being afraid to fall, unlocks progression to the *th level because you just start trying so many more movements on the water! Once you get it sorted and have a smaller wing in hand, if you're like me, you'll be able to foil for 3 hour sessions, without a break, without a harness, for the entire season, pain free. All that saved energy and body stress from the smaller wing allows you to focus on taking more chances on foil, and pushing your progression that much harder.
So yes, size down your board too!
Summary:
You may have a break in period of a day or two to adapt to the new foils/boards but then you are off to the races and will be having more fun than ever.
If you get a narrow board it will allow you to use smaller wings and and smaller foils.
You will save tons of energy while reducing wear and tear on your body.
You'll be inspired to try riskier maneuvers with all of your saved energy.
I would not be afraid of going narrow, I would be concerned about going to short.
I really like the Cloud IX foils with an 8.5 aspect ratio. It's a very user friendly AR.
I like a foil span of 92-99cm for beginners to progress on. This will allow you to roll the foil very naturally, without feeling out of control. Larger spans feel stiff in turns. Smaller spans feel twitchy (but you will progress to them, 77cm is my current favorite).
Add a large tail and long fuse to your quiver. Slap that on to any new front foil to activate the easy button for the first few sessions. Then go back to a medium fuse and a medium or small tail to activate it's full powers.
If you're ever in the Columbia River Gorge don't hesitate to hit me up. I'll have extra boards and foils for you to try!
Last, I'm currently working on two additional write ups to compliment my narrow board post. One will be a year end summary. The other will be a writeup on foils. I'll post them as new topics when I finish them and they will probably give you more info and answer more questions.
Happy new year all and thanks for the detailed advice BWalnut and DWF !
Since reading this, I've sold most of my old gear and putting the cash towards following your advice. :) Based in the UK I'm probably going with Gong gear. Their Crusader Diamond has the new design tail that I'm seeing on the AFS blackbird and similar dims to many of the hybrid downwind/Wing boards that I'm learning about from this post. For my size at 65kg and just past beginner stage (occasional successful jibes) - I'm thinking of the 90L 5'10'' x 20 1/16'' x 5 11/16"
and going with their newest Medium aspect foils (6.8) (Curve V2) - thinking of going with a 1400 x 98cm and 1200 x 90cm as a base quiver.
My main spot is pretty choppy / swelly and not the easiest place to foil so I'm a little concerned about going this narrow on the board
Be great to get a bit of feedback before forking out the cash!
www.gong-galaxy.com/produit/gong-wing-foil-board-cruzader-diamond-fsp-pro/
www.gong-galaxy.com/produit/gong-foil-allvator-front-wing-curve/
At your weight I think it all sounds very large, unless your spot has super light wind
Select to expand quoteBWalnut said..
I paddled the 5'3"x22" Kalama e3 with a foildrive on it which was kind of a shocking experience but I never could get a feel for the foildrive and sold mine pretty quick.
Wow....Somebody with the exact same foil drive disappointment as me.
With SUP..no love. Sold it. A year later, when people started doing prone with FD, I bought another one. Sold it again. No love. Heavy, box on deck. Not the same feel as naked foiling,
Now with the new SLIM mounted under the board, I ordered a SLIM to try prone. Maybe it will click this time.
Select to expand quotezimboflyman said..
Happy new year all and thanks for the detailed advice BWalnut and DWF !
Since reading this, I've sold most of my old gear and putting the cash towards following your advice. :) Based in the UK I'm probably going with Gong gear. Their Crusader Diamond has the new design tail that I'm seeing on the AFS blackbird and similar dims to many of the hybrid downwind/Wing boards that I'm learning about from this post. For my size at 65kg and just past beginner stage (occasional successful jibes) - I'm thinking of the 90L 5'10'' x 20 1/16'' x 5 11/16"
and going with their newest Medium aspect foils (6.8) (Curve V2) - thinking of going with a 1400 x 98cm and 1200 x 90cm as a base quiver.
My main spot is pretty choppy / swelly and not the easiest place to foil so I'm a little concerned about going this narrow on the board
Be great to get a bit of feedback before forking out the cash!
www.gong-galaxy.com/produit/gong-wing-foil-board-cruzader-diamond-fsp-pro/
www.gong-galaxy.com/produit/gong-foil-allvator-front-wing-curve/
Happy New Year!
I think you are going to have a blast on that board and I wouldn't worry about it being too narrow. The length of the board will be very stable and how long is your mast? That will stabilize the board side to side. Regardless, you'll notice that as soon as you lift your wing into the air that board will shoot forward and become stable.
As far as liters go, that will be more than sufficient and in the future you might want to get the same length and width, but see if they could make one a little thinner for you to drop the liters lower as you progress. For now, enjoy the extra float, super easy paddles and takeoffs, and have some fun!
Select to expand quoteDWF said..BWalnut said..
I paddled the 5'3"x22" Kalama e3 with a foildrive on it which was kind of a shocking experience but I never could get a feel for the foildrive and sold mine pretty quick.
Wow....Somebody with the exact same foil drive disappointment as me.
With SUP..no love. Sold it. A year later, when people started doing prone with FD, I bought another one. Sold it again. No love. Heavy, box on deck. Not the same feel as naked foiling,
Now with the new SLIM mounted under the board, I ordered a SLIM to try prone. Maybe it will click this time.
I'll be interested in hearing your new perspective. I like the more finished look of the new FD with better reception and the box under the deck for sure. However, I like to ride short masts and the battery now serves as a mast extension. My masts are tapered, so I can't move the motor up and down and with the new FD needing more of a single fixed length position on the mast it just lost versatility to e-foil vs prone and added a lot in price. In the end, there's a lot of magic in just tapping into the wind and swell energy. I probably simply dislike the use of a motor and electronics more than anything.
Select to expand quoteBWalnut said..DWF said..BWalnut said..
I paddled the 5'3"x22" Kalama e3 with a foildrive on it which was kind of a shocking experience but I never could get a feel for the foildrive and sold mine pretty quick.
Wow....Somebody with the exact same foil drive disappointment as me.
With SUP..no love. Sold it. A year later, when people started doing prone with FD, I bought another one. Sold it again. No love. Heavy, box on deck. Not the same feel as naked foiling,
Now with the new SLIM mounted under the board, I ordered a SLIM to try prone. Maybe it will click this time.
I'll be interested in hearing your new perspective. I like the more finished look of the new FD with better reception and the box under the deck for sure. However, I like to ride short masts and the battery now serves as a mast extension. My masts are tapered, so I can't move the motor up and down and with the new FD needing more of a single fixed length position on the mast it just lost versatility to e-foil vs prone and added a lot in price. In the end, there's a lot of magic in just tapping into the wind and swell energy. I probably simply dislike the use of a motor and electronics more than anything.
I heard someone say FD is like viagra and mostly old men using it, or for those who can't/don't have the skill to foil waves without assistance. I believe FD takes the `sport or skill` out of foiling in waves, perhaps a good training tool, but FD has no place in a surf lineup with other surfers or foilers.
Select to expand quotenoepoxy said..
I heard someone say FD is like viagra and mostly old men using it, or for those who can't/don't have the skill to foil waves without assistance. I believe FD takes the `sport or skill` out of foiling in waves, perhaps a good training tool, but FD has no place in a surf lineup with other surfers or foilers.
Someone made a bumper sticker that says "foiling makes you fat" so throwing in the FD can't help at all. I have a buddy who learned using a foildrive and IMO it's slowed his progression terribly. Sure, it gets him up on foil but he is so over reliant on it now that he struggles to do anything else. He even is falling into a place where he says you should always have a FD, even if winging, for safety if you are struggling to get home. I always joke with him that he's F'D for using it.
I think something is lost in the world when you just buy the experience instead of work for it. Not trying to be offensive to any FD users out there, but you're undoubtedly missing out on a huge part of the experience if you don't learn how to catch waves or get pulled by the wind.
Select to expand quotezimboflyman said..BWalnut said..zimboflyman said..
Really appreciate the massive writeup and insights - thanks!As you move from wider boards / larger foil combo to narrower board / smaller foils, can you give us an idea on how it feels / learning curve?I guess i'm asking if its more difficult to ride smaller foils and narrower board coming from bigger ones.
I'm 65kg riding 95Litre 6ft x 28'' board and 1900 foil - up riding both directions and sometimes making my jibes, but don't enjoy the hard work (lack of technique -haha ) of tryna get off the water in lighter winds, so super keen to go more narrow and downsize the foil and wing to save my shoulders.
But maybe I need to improve more before changing down? - something like a Kalama e3 5'9'' x 22.5" sounds appealing as heck, but might be biting off too much?
I can't tell you how many people came to me with the same problem, riding a big foil and struggling on jibes while riding a big board.
First thing I did for everyone is let them switch from their big foils down onto my fs1150. Probably 95% of people came back screaming "I have to buy this!!!!" My buddy even was a test rider from me, he took a 1900 out for two sessions to learn (his first two sessions ever) and then switched to my fs1150. He went from barely able to ride and breaching to doing full reaches on foil right away. Only 1 guy all year didn't jump on the 1150 after trying it and TBH it was an ultralight day and he was very new so it made sense that he wasn't blown away.
I, myself, was bouncing back and forth between a 1210 and a 1500 (I learned on the 1500) and I was not progressing at all. I had to touch down on all my jibes to switch my feet, it felt impossible to switch in the air and I was kind of over winging to be honest. I would have quit and gone back to kiting if I hadn't broken my ribs to start the season (and couldn't wear my kite harness). Instead of quitting I doubled down and bought the entire Cloud IX fs foil quiver. Switching to the 1150 and 1000 as my new foil combo was life altering for me right out the gate. The 1150, is far superior to the 1000 IMO which is why I have everyone try that foil. The smaller foils will also result in less fatigue and impact on your body when you are up and riding, Believe it or not the drag in the water translates straight into your wrists, shoulders, core, and wears you down.
So yes, size down that foil ASAP. I tell everyone that as soon as you can consistently get up and ride straight (not even jibe) it's time to size down.
For the board: If you had the 8' x 21" kalama that I had it would blow your current board away. Of course, the water start would be easier. Hard to conceive but incredibly valuable to note is that it would also turn better and go upwind better.
IMO your board LENGTH changes the stability of your ride more than the width when you are bobbing in the water. You probably have a 75-85cm mast and if you end up with a medium high aspect foil like the 1150 it creates and insane amount of roll resistance while you are in the water kneeling on the board. So, falling off the side is quite easy to adapt to. The length however, is where you find you'll struggle if you go terribly shorter. 5'9" should not be a hard jump from 6'. My 5'3' x 22" kalama does cause me to fall off the back or over the front in rough seas from time to time though. Never off the side. (try before you buy if possible on the kalama. His track boxes aren't always in the best spots).
The biggest benefit towards your progression in your circumstance with a narrow board is going to be that you will stop worrying about falling. You can fall anytime, anywhere, with confidence that you can easily get back up onto foil without expending a ton of energy. Not being afraid to fall, unlocks progression to the *th level because you just start trying so many more movements on the water! Once you get it sorted and have a smaller wing in hand, if you're like me, you'll be able to foil for 3 hour sessions, without a break, without a harness, for the entire season, pain free. All that saved energy and body stress from the smaller wing allows you to focus on taking more chances on foil, and pushing your progression that much harder.
So yes, size down your board too!
Summary:
You may have a break in period of a day or two to adapt to the new foils/boards but then you are off to the races and will be having more fun than ever.
If you get a narrow board it will allow you to use smaller wings and and smaller foils.
You will save tons of energy while reducing wear and tear on your body.
You'll be inspired to try riskier maneuvers with all of your saved energy.
I would not be afraid of going narrow, I would be concerned about going to short.
I really like the Cloud IX foils with an 8.5 aspect ratio. It's a very user friendly AR.
I like a foil span of 92-99cm for beginners to progress on. This will allow you to roll the foil very naturally, without feeling out of control. Larger spans feel stiff in turns. Smaller spans feel twitchy (but you will progress to them, 77cm is my current favorite).
Add a large tail and long fuse to your quiver. Slap that on to any new front foil to activate the easy button for the first few sessions. Then go back to a medium fuse and a medium or small tail to activate it's full powers.
If you're ever in the Columbia River Gorge don't hesitate to hit me up. I'll have extra boards and foils for you to try!
Last, I'm currently working on two additional write ups to compliment my narrow board post. One will be a year end summary. The other will be a writeup on foils. I'll post them as new topics when I finish them and they will probably give you more info and answer more questions.
Happy new year all and thanks for the detailed advice BWalnut and DWF !
Since reading this, I've sold most of my old gear and putting the cash towards following your advice. :) Based in the UK I'm probably going with Gong gear. Their Crusader Diamond has the new design tail that I'm seeing on the AFS blackbird and similar dims to many of the hybrid downwind/Wing boards that I'm learning about from this post. For my size at 65kg and just past beginner stage (occasional successful jibes) - I'm thinking of the 90L 5'10'' x 20 1/16'' x 5 11/16"
and going with their newest Medium aspect foils (6.8) (Curve V2) - thinking of going with a 1400 x 98cm and 1200 x 90cm as a base quiver.
My main spot is pretty choppy / swelly and not the easiest place to foil so I'm a little concerned about going this narrow on the board
Be great to get a bit of feedback before forking out the cash!
www.gong-galaxy.com/produit/gong-wing-foil-board-cruzader-diamond-fsp-pro/
www.gong-galaxy.com/produit/gong-foil-allvator-front-wing-curve/
If I was looking to downsize a board I'd be looking at those- great looking board & great price. Luckily your shipping would be bugger all.
Dear BWalnut
You wrote, that your first gear was the kujira 1500. I am also a happy owner of this with a quatro wingdrifter board of 90 L.
But I am still in doubt if I need to shim my mast. I have the original kujira shimming plate with 3mm, and if I put it on the frontside, the mast becomes a nearly 90 degree angle (means without plate about 87 degree).
Did you correct your mast angle, and if yes does your kalama had a plane sliding surface?
I appreciate your answer, regards
Mattis
Select to expand quoteMattisR said..
Dear BWalnut
You wrote, that your first gear was the kujira 1500. I am also a happy owner of this with a quatro wingdrifter board of 90 L.
But I am still in doubt if I need to shim my mast. I have the original kujira shimming plate with 3mm, and if I put it on the frontside, the mast becomes a nearly 90 degree angle (means without plate about 87 degree).
Did you correct your mast angle, and if yes does your kalama had a plane sliding surface?
I appreciate your answer, regards
Mattis
Sorry Mattis, I never tried shimming the mast. Give it a try and let us know!
Select to expand quoteBWalnut said..noepoxy said..
I heard someone say FD is like viagra and mostly old men using it, or for those who can't/don't have the skill to foil waves without assistance. I believe FD takes the `sport or skill` out of foiling in waves, perhaps a good training tool, but FD has no place in a surf lineup with other surfers or foilers.
Someone made a bumper sticker that says "foiling makes you fat" so throwing in the FD can't help at all. I have a buddy who learned using a foildrive and IMO it's slowed his progression terribly. Sure, it gets him up on foil but he is so over reliant on it now that he struggles to do anything else. He even is falling into a place where he says you should always have a FD, even if winging, for safety if you are struggling to get home. I always joke with him that he's F'D for using it.
I think something is lost in the world when you just buy the experience instead of work for it. Not trying to be offensive to any FD users out there, but you're undoubtedly missing out on a huge part of the experience if you don't learn how to catch waves or get pulled by the wind.
Less FD users out there the better. More waves for me 
Some pretty narrow minded comments there boys. You enjoy doing the hard yards I will enjoy foiling heaps of uncrowded hardly breaking waves.
Select to expand quotehilly said..
Less FD users out there the better. More waves for me
Some pretty narrow minded comments there boys. You enjoy doing the hard yards I will enjoy foiling heaps of uncrowded hardly breaking waves.
Nah, I tried it so it's not narrowminded, just a friendly jest. Just not for me. It's cool if it's your thing, but motorsports aren't mine. I prefer catching with wave energy or wind instead of a motor.
I also assume I get more time on the water than most anyone that's not a full time pro or living somewhere they can ride 365, so I'm not craving a motor to get me up and going either. My cup is full.
Keep having fun and enjoy your next session!
Narrow minded was about not accepting what other people choose to ride, not about how you made your decision. That's awesome that you can catch waves and pump around, lots of people cannot do that including me. Old age, rugby injuries and crowds rule proning out for me. FD allows me, and heaps of others, to get into foiling which is good for the sport long term.
Just like mals, emtb, jetski's, motorcycle's etc there will be people not liking it. But you summed it up well "keep having fun". Live and let live.
Sorry buddy, I must have missed something. I don't have any issue with you riding a foildrive and I didn't see anyone else with the same issue but maybe I missed something there. My apologies and best wishes.
The new Sunova Carver, 5'10"x20" 85l is an excellent addition to the narrow board game and it just killed my entire board quiver in a single day!
