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Forums > General Discussion   Shooting the breeze...

Alfa Romeo Is Back!

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Created by Adriano > 9 months ago, 5 May 2017
log man
VIC, 8289 posts
11 Oct 2017 6:01PM
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DARTH said..Being an Alfa man, you are the dark side 666


Adriano said..
Darth you used to be nice until you turned to the Dark Side.



Hee hee. What's your car thang?


Adriano, I saw one of the new Alfas the other day..........I love wog cars, but It just didn't look like a special car.......I thought it was a bit ho hum. Just looks only tho.

Adriano
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15 Oct 2017 5:38PM
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log man said..I thought it was a bit ho hum. Just looks only tho.


Adriano said..



DARTH said..Being an Alfa man, you are the dark side 666




Adriano said..
Darth you used to be nice until you turned to the Dark Side.





Hee hee. What's your car thang?




Adriano, I saw one of the new Alfas the other day..........I love wog cars, but It just didn't look like a special car.......


Ho hum....



Ian K
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15 Oct 2017 6:37PM
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Who started this obsession with trying to make the front of a car look like a face. Barbie, Tigers, Dinosaurs whatever. Just gotta resemble the squinting dial of something. I think it was Mazda back in the 80s. They're still doing it! Come on Mazda.


Round headlights and a near vertical windscreen. Hard to buy a vehicle these days that hasn't got a ridiculously sloped windscreen like it thinks it's a Le Mans racer. Cook in the sun. Any economy gains would be lost with the extra work of the aircon.

A bit over-sized but toyota had the right idea.






Buster fin
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15 Oct 2017 7:10PM
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^^^^Yep, go the modern brick.

log man
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15 Oct 2017 10:23PM
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Adriano said..

log man said..I thought it was a bit ho hum. Just looks only tho.



Adriano said..




DARTH said..Being an Alfa man, you are the dark side 666





Adriano said..
Darth you used to be nice until you turned to the Dark Side.






Hee hee. What's your car thang?





Adriano, I saw one of the new Alfas the other day..........I love wog cars, but It just didn't look like a special car.......



Ho hum....




Alfa set the bar pretty high in the looks department. But the new one looks a bit average for them. !59's look better, GTV....beautifull, Brera Awesome, Alfasud even. But for me........yeah, nah.

Adriano
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16 Oct 2017 6:03AM
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Well it is a sedan....even an M3 looks a little executive in comparison to the Giulia.


The 159 was ground breaking in its styling 14 years ago, but it looks staid and dated next to the Giulia...





Adriano
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16 Oct 2017 6:04AM
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Ian K said..www.seabreeze.com.au/img/photos/other/12443239.jpg' />


I don't see the relevance of posting bad design here......Alphas on the other hand are designed by people with passion and love for design.

If you like your car to look like masonry, buy a Toyota SUV designed by average industrial designers.

log man
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16 Oct 2017 11:10AM
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Ian K said..www.seabreeze.com.au/img/photos/other/12443239.jpg' />




I don't see the relevance of posting bad design here......Alphas on the other hand are designed by people with passion and love for design.

If you like your car to look like masonry, buy a Toyota SUV designed by average industrial designers.



what's "bad design"?

Btw my favorite cars are masonry shaped. Bently turbo R, Fiat 127/8, Triumph dolomite sprint, XD Falcon, Volvo 240.............you get the picture.

Square is beautiful.

oh and.....the 159 is a way better looker than the new one.

and BMW's schtick is understated, poised, elegant power. Alfas schtick is geez that's a pretty car. So in my mind BMW's effort is way more successful than Alfas.

Adriano
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16 Oct 2017 8:33AM
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Bad design.....it's hard to explain...have you got a few years of study time to spare.....

Ian K
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16 Oct 2017 9:31AM
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Adriano said..

Ian K said..www.seabreeze.com.au/img/photos/other/12443239.jpg' />



I don't see the relevance of posting bad design here......Alphas on the other hand are designed by people with passion and love for design.

If you like your car to look like masonry, buy a Toyota SUV designed by average industrial designers.


Alfa! But if you look at the vehicles that have generated undying devotion of owners. Minis, Troopies, Kombies, Hi Aces, Volvos, Landies, Trabants..... all shaped like bricks. Alfa owners spout in raptures about the 156s, Giulios, 'fettas, Spiders, GTVs they've had. "All at once you ask?" ( I bought a cast off 'sud from one of these back in the day. A good little car before it decomposed)



















Adriano
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16 Oct 2017 12:00PM
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I don't think you understand what is meant by the term "brick". Look there's always fans for any product, no matter how badly executed.

The first two cars are gorgeous pieces of industrial design and have plenty of curves and poise. All Mini and Kombi owner, please accept my apologies on behalf of IanK for placing your beautiful cars in this "brick" category. He knows not what he does.

I have to agree the next three are good examples of practical or solid design. They're not designed for looks at all.

Even the last example has plenty of swerve. Hardly bricky at all.

You've gotta remember some of those cars were designed 40 years ago or more. That FJ Cruiser looks like a brick that's been rear ended, leaving the back windows out of kilter.

This is a brick.

Sorry all lovers of great design and Alfa owners for putting these horrid things anywhere near your cars on a website....

RichardG
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16 Oct 2017 12:31PM
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RichardG
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16 Oct 2017 12:33PM
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Rather than owning a delicate show car, Alfa Romeo collector Manuel Leon Minassian prefers cars with a bit more gusto. He often buys cars that have been neglected or are unwanted by the average buyer, and he is extremely picky as to how he will bring them back to life. He's bought and sold countless amounts of cars in his lifetime, and there's likely not an end in sight. Although he prefers not to mention the exact number of vintage cars he owns, there's one of them that he holds very close, a 1972 Alfa Romeo Berlina. Customized to his personal satisfaction, the work in this Berlina hints at remnants of his childhood as a rambunctious Alfa driver of only thirteen years old.


RichardG
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16 Oct 2017 12:40PM
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This week we take a very special ride in one of Italy's most celebrated and pedigreed entries in the book of automotive history: the Alfa Romeo GTA. While many get worked into a frenzy over the lightweight Bertone coupe's rich racing history, that's not what sparks this Alfista's passion for the aluminum Alfa. Instead, owner Filippo Montini tells us that "The passion I have for this car is not due to its value or because it is rare, nor for its heritage. It's just that when I get in it, and I close the door, I am in my own special world. I tune everything out. I leave for a timeless dimension; it is where I go to blow off steam."

In case you're unfamiliar, the GTA is widely considered one of Alfa Romeo's motorsport masterpieces, securing the Division 2 European Touring Car Championship in 1966, 1967, and 1969. Although it is based on the road-going Tipo 105 Giulia Sprint GT, the GTA is an Autodelta-built special built from the ground up for ultimate overall performance.

The GT Alleggerita, meaning "lightweight," features an abundance of plastics and an all-aluminum body skin to bring the pounds way down. Various magnesium components-including the featherweight 14-inch wheels, valve cover, timing cover, and bell housing-further eliminated unnecessary weight. Under the letterbox hood is a 1600cc twin-cam inline-four fitted with an upgraded distributor, larger 45mm carburetors, and most significantly, a trick twin-spark aluminum head that in Stradale trim made approximately 115 horsepower-Montini's GTA, now in full Corsa spec, makes a screaming 160 from the little mill.

Peering over the crisp Giorgetto Giugiaro-penned lines of this pristine GTA, you wouldn't guess it was once a dismantled disaster of parts when Montini acquired it a decade ago. "We bought the GTA sight unseen because it was disassembled, without thinking what the build would entail," (Montini cannot say this without a smile on his face), "without assessing the risks that we could run into with a car of this type." After looking over the parts spread throughout a friend's garage, they discovered the car was "all there" as promised: some assembly required. Montini recounts, "We took all the crates home, and little by little-like a puzzle-we were able to rebuild the whole car." And although it took Montini and his father three years of persistence to complete the project, now with a Certificate of Authenticity from Alfa Romeo, their efforts were well worth the work.

With only 500 1600cc-spec GTAs produced for homologation, Montini's is just one of 49 made in right-hand drive configuration, making it all the more rare. But as mentioned, these bonuses are almost meaningless to this Alfaholic. For Montini, it's about what the twin-spark powered drive delivers rather than whatever bragging rights it brings to the table: "This car gives me emotions that cannot be put into words. It is such an intimate experience, that I jealously cherish it." We would too Mr. Montini.

Ian K
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16 Oct 2017 12:45PM
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All Mini and Kombi owner, please accept my apologies on behalf of IanK for placing your beautiful cars in this "brick" category. He knows not what he does.

Thanks Adriano, but you don't have to apologise on my behalf for that one. Back in the day, before you were born maybe, they were always referred to as "Bricks". It's a term of endearment . This seller still refers to his as a "delightful little brick". He must be my age! Maybe he can't pass the driving test any more? Why else would you sell a mini?

collectableclassiccars.com.au/sold-cars/just-arrived-1968-morris-mini-deluxe
"Another rare find from Collectable Classics. Same owner for the past 46 Yrs . Yes that's correct its a 1 owner car with books..Delightful little Brick that has been loved all its life and has reluctantly put on the market for sale. The only proviso is that it " goes to a loving home" Good in the body , trim and drives well.. Not a concours car but remember its getting on in age like the rest of us . Priced to sell - Not offers - Call today"

RichardG
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16 Oct 2017 12:50PM
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Charles Morgan former MD of Morgan motor cars says the Alfa Giulia Sprint is one of his absolutely favourite Italian coupe of all time. Praise indeed.

Ian K
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16 Oct 2017 12:54PM
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How good do those round headlights look! Designers need a few constraints to work around. Otherwise all is lost in meaningless curves. And the ability to make randomly spoked alloy wheels! Hasn't that led us astray? When did you last see a set of wheels as good looking as those on that alfa? (they are steel I hope)

Adriano
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16 Oct 2017 1:20PM
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Back on track Ian. Nice one.

Adriano
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16 Oct 2017 1:29PM
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Charles Morgan former MD of Morgan motor cars says the Alfa Giulia Sprint is one of his absolutely favourite Italian coupe of all time. Praise indeed.


Amore dolce!

RichardG
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16 Oct 2017 3:08PM
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Mini v Alfa Romeo: Epic 'Italian Job' chase

In a homage to the legendary Michael Caine film, the Italian job, in which Mini Coopers are chased by Italian Alfa Romeo Police Cars, time to look back at a classic head to head. Goodwood Revival 2015 sees a great battle between a Mini and Alfa during the St Mary's Trophy - Mini battles to over take the Alfa, fails, keeps trying, then finally over takes. Just when you think it's all winning, the Alfa takes over leaving the Mini to stay behind once again...Forza Alfa !

log man
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16 Oct 2017 7:50PM
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Mini v Alfa Romeo: Epic 'Italian Job' chase

In a homage to the legendary Michael Caine film, the Italian job, in which Mini Coopers are chased by Italian Alfa Romeo Police Cars, time to look back at a classic head to head. Goodwood Revival 2015 sees a great battle between a Mini and Alfa during the St Mary's Trophy - Mini battles to over take the Alfa, fails, keeps trying, then finally over takes. Just when you think it's all winning, the Alfa takes over leaving the Mini to stay behind once again...Forza Alfa !



awesome!

RichardG
WA, 3754 posts
10 Nov 2017 9:53PM
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Alfa Romeo Giulia Fastback Veloce Q4. This looks fabulous.





log man
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11 Nov 2017 8:03AM
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that looks better imo but it's still too fussy. More simple lines and less bulges.

chrispy
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11 Nov 2017 5:08AM
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looks like a hyundai

Adriano
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11 Nov 2017 5:26AM
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looks like a hyundai


You mean Hyundai's now try and look like Alfas....

Ian K
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11 Nov 2017 6:07AM
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chrispy said..
looks like a hyundai



You mean Hyundai's now try and look like Alfas....


No he's referring to the Hyundai Velostar that predates that Alfa by several years. Alfa following Hyundai design! Who'd have thought?


quikdrawMcgraw
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11 Nov 2017 7:40AM
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Majority of these pics belong in the funny images thread. Cars for surf trips not cafe latte trips

Adriano
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11 Nov 2017 8:02AM
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Adriano said..


chrispy said..
looks like a hyundai


You mean Hyundai's now try and look like Alfas....


No he's referring to the Hyundai Velostar that predates that Alfa by several years. Alfa following Hyundai design! Who'd have thought?

Nah. Leave design analysis to the experts. The Veloster is nothing like that Alfa design in concept, proportions or poise. Your aesthetic sensibilities are rotten.

Ian K
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11 Nov 2017 8:27AM
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Nah. Leave design analysis to the experts. The Veloster is nothing like that Alfa design in concept, proportions or poise. Your aesthetic sensibilities are rotten.


"Rotten" eh?...... "nothing like it" ....... damn near identical if you ask me. Maybe you're having trouble envisaging a 3d object rotated in space? Here it is from another angle.



Adriano
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11 Nov 2017 12:22PM
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Ha ha very funny.

Nothing like the Alfa whatsoever. None of the lines, none of the proportions, rear doors completely different, the arse on the Veloster looks totally different ! I'm good at form and proportions. You're good at numbers. Use ratios and you'll discover just how different the cars are.



As I said, two completely different cars. The only similarity is the hatchback function and let's not get started on the engine comparison, which is not even worth comparing.....



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