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I think the Alfa is a much more organic formed aesthetic.......the Hyundai has a tougher, more aggressive style. I like the Hyundai but it does look a little odd from different angles.
jaw dropping ,
Alpha Romeo is a worthless expense in a country of speed limit maximum 120 Kmh federally (called Australia) (note: see another thread in this group on speed limit).
And as i've always said , why die in perfect splendor and luxury or in a faster than sports car rattle trap car(or truck) because of fatigue !!!
Super STOL competitor
This topic changed me from a lurker to a poster. Took a while though. I admit to buying cars motivated more by passion than by logic, although I am trying to become more mature. Have owned and loved older Fiats, & Lancias and tried to embrace Alfas in the past I was keen to give the new Alfa rocket a good go. M3 price worried me. So I went and had a look at a showroom on the Goldie. Stunning presence from outside. Rear door aperture tiny. Deal breaker for me was that the centre console lid needed to be slid around left and right to locate it's latch. My children's 13 year old Renault Clio has better trim fit. Also, what's with the oddly long front interior door latches: style over function?
I just can't justify the compromise. Tried to love it but can't.
If only cauncy. That was a car ahead of it's time and it changed the market for ever.
However my pristine Beta HPE was an education about ride quality and handling needing no compromise.
Nice one log man. Had one of those as well. A Fiat 124BC 1800. Silver to the belt line and dark red from there up.
Sad to say but I also had a 124 Spyder by Pininfarina. Interestingly the same basic engine in the 124, Beta and Spyder. 2 litres in the Beta & Spyder. Spyder was also fuel injected. The 124 also sounded lovely.
To make the 124BC ADR compliant it was fitted with front seat headrests. But when you flipped the drivers seat forward to access the rear seat the drivers headrest hit the horn button on the wheel. Bloody loud horn as standard!
Clever design detail, or character?
Oh yeh mad mike.
PPRE build a sweet quad rotor
Check out the vids of there NA 6 rotor
Yes but with many secret mods to hav it reliable & last like a v8 but handle mega revs like 10 000+ & 20psi of boost. They are at the cutting edge of rotor development, untill mazda bring out there new rotor, thats in the works.
Nonsense. Plenty of 100km/h country roads where most cars will only safely do 6o around the bends but a basic sports car will exhilarate at 100.
The average car can generate lateral G forces between 0.7 and 0.9 G. Call it 0.8.
Up to a certain percentage of this max G force the car is being safely driven on public roads. Lets say half the max G is fast enough. You never know when a tyre might puncture or you hit a bit of gravel. You're not on a race track. 0.8 / 2 = 0.4. So if 0.4 G is safe at 60kph on this particular corner in an average car how many Gs will be generated doing it at 100?
(100/60)^2 * 0.4 = 1.1 G. So for a similar 50% road holding reserve you need a car capable of 2.2 G!
Don't know what sort of car you had in mind, but only something like a formula 1 with huge downforce can do that. http://www.motortrend.com/news/best-handling-cars-weve-tested-motor-trends-top-figure8-performers-3095/
"Average" being the operative word. Anything after that is just specifics. Without specifying the curvature or camber of the road, you're maths is pointless. I wasn't talking about an average car being on the edge, I was referring to what a decent everyday sports car can comfortably manage when a Mazda 2 is comfortably managing 60km/h.
But go ahead with the math......I'll just drive and do it within the speed limit too. Nothing illegal about driving faster than recommended speeds in bends, which are designed to cater for all motorists and cars and conditions.
A good high speed surfing "carrier" vehicle. 280 hp turbo petrol 4 cylinder Q4 SUV. Means in Australia: 206kW/415Nm 2.0-litre turbo-petrol version. All Australian models will be - with an eight-speed automatic transmission and Q4 all-wheel drive, which Alfa claims makes it "100 per cent rear drive" by transferring up to 60 per cent of torque to the front wheels only when required. Apart from sprinting to 100km/h in a class-leading 5.7 seconds; versions seen overseas: offer full-grain leather seats with electric adjustment and heating, genuine wood veneers, 20-inch alloy wheels, a luxury leather steering wheel with aluminum gearshift paddles and coloured brake callipers. Alfa are always better in 4 cylinders..!
