Not the case in Vietnam, Afganistan (2001+), Iraq (this decade sometime), Libya (2010-11), Syria (current), Congo (current), Mali (current). I think the yank people would win, just seeing the image you posted earlier would indicate they have a fighting chance. Plus defections from the military, in this scenario, are almost guaranteed. I'd also add that you don't have to win outright to get your point accross and initiate change.
This is of course assuming all avenenues of diplomacy have been tried. The above is plan Z after all.
You can have high cap centrefire firearms and still address the issue of criminal use of firearms. You'll never stop 100% of crime, just like you will never prevent 100% of the road toll, or 100% deaths due to drunk idiots.
Wrongo again Doggie, we have seen how a small number of insurgents can tie up a much superior force.
Sure in an all out war an army can defeat a populace but that doesn't even happen in a war between two countries nowadays, the bloodshed would be politically incorrect. How many hours would it take for us to kill everyone in Afghanistan and Iraq?
The previous chart shows how there are more weapons in the hands of citizens than in the military in the USA.
The point is they won't even go there if it's going to be that tough a slog, the fallout would be too great.
The Davidians at Waco took down a helicopter with their .50, you think they will try that again?
It's a deterrent.
Sad really how the far left always has to resort to name calling and cries of racism when losing an argument.
I love this thread.
Mass shooting all the way to geometry. And the geometry does not even refer to holdover or windage when making a long shot.
this has indeed gone way off topic...
doggie, not that i think the populace should be heavily armed but- as an example, the viet cong managed to defeat everything a modern us army could throw at them, and they were by no means well armed, they were just determined and had more at stake.
Gun laws--> what the public in the USA need guns for --> 2nd ammendment gives them the right (and many feel its required) --> high cap firearms used --> gun laws reflect this = high capacity centrefire rifles available
USA public hunting/target --> gun laws reflect this -->other dedicated hunting/target firearms allowed (though they also have military rifle comps with semi-autos, as we did years ago)
^^^current state of things.
There have also been a few ideas thrown out there as to how they could increase public safety further (ie: extra licencing, registration/number limiting, firearm sales, public carry permits, firearm bans, increased policing and penalties, improving healthcare, combating the drug trade more, more firearm education, better education system, decreasing the unemployment rate, etc).
Im left wondering what were you wanting to get out of the discussion?
Open your mind peeps.
That shooting in Colarado was a conspiracy. It's well known that Li'l Wayne, Kanye West, Jay Z and Lady Gaga are illuminate whores. It's obvious that Michael Jackson and 2Pac were victims of illuminate assassinations. Although, Eminem looks like he was able to break free of their grasp.
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All guns in US are not aimed at government agencies or bandits - to protect citizens from dictatorships or crime -but against each other.
Just wait for next social disturbances and see what happen when thousands of angry people turns against each other.
If could be natural disaster to provoke riots (ie virus Ebola epidemic in NY), or social friction based on religion, social and economic status, or most likely on race.
All this revolution never happens without weapons: Bolshevik revolution, now Arab revolution.
Very sad that people in US put all the trust only on their own guns, but don't believe their own police and their own government is there to do the job.
Just as a point of interest, Howard reflects...http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics/brothers-in-arms-yes-but-the-us-needs-to-get-rid-of-its-guns-20120731-23ct7.html
Well that's the way they (the US) roll, suffering massacres of a bunch of innocent people every couple of years is collateral damage to the freedoms of their constitution, a greater good apparently.