Tell your friends and family is safe to go in the water.
Good job Barnett Thankyou for growing some balls.
Someone has to do it.
He couldn't feel it, but he knew it was a shark. He tried to fight it off. He was yelling for us to help him in, so we just had to paddle over to him and carry him in.''
Moments earlier, they had been having a great time,
''I just threw my board on the shore and ran straight towards the nearest house and got help, called an ambulance, by the time he lost all of his blood.''
They paddled out and held a minute's silence in a ring of tribute.
]'I promise you will never ever be forgotten and I will miss you so very much. You, above all people, knew how hard I found it to say goodbye to others and so I know you will understand if I don't say it. What I will say instead is 'See you soon!'. I'm looking forward to it so very much.'
'All my love now, forever and always, your wife,...............
Select to expand quotebusterwa said..
Tell your friends and family is safe to go in the water.
Good job Barnett Thankyou for growing some balls.
Someone has to do it.
He couldn't feel it, but he knew it was a shark. He tried to fight it off. He was yelling for us to help him in, so we just had to paddle over to him and carry him in.''
Moments earlier, they had been having a great time,
''I just threw my board on the shore and ran straight towards the nearest house and got help, called an ambulance, by the time he lost all of his blood.''
They paddled out and held a minute's silence in a ring of tribute.
]'I promise you will never ever be forgotten and I will miss you so very much. You, above all people, knew how hard I found it to say goodbye to others and so I know you will understand if I don't say it. What I will say instead is 'See you soon!'. I'm looking forward to it so very much.'
'All my love now, forever and always, your wife,...............
Yeah, you would edit your post wouldn't you, just like every other cull supporter. Disgraceful beings
You swim out there in a ring show some tears and tell us how im a discraceful being? How im supposed to be sad but happy to support your cause.
Part of the problem, Australia?
www.hngn.com/articles/22556/20140121/one-quarter-of-sharks-and-rays-could-be-gone-within-decades.htm
Nek minnut...
Fatal car accident - ban cars
Someone falls down the stairs and dies - ban stairs
Kid killed by a dog - cull dogs
Etc...
Select to expand quoteNikita said...
Nek minnut...
Fatal car accident - ban cars
Someone falls down the stairs and dies - ban stairs
Kid killed by a dog - cull dogs
Etc...
And you think this **** hasn't already happened?
A few years ago some idiot thought it would be a good idea that everyone in cars should wear helmets for protection. Obviously didn't happen because the rest of the country told them to piss off.
My work has a policy of three points of contact on the stairs. On top of that, women in heels have to use the elevator... For one floor!
As for dogs... Some idiot tv woman gets her dog attacked in her home because she left the door open so she decides she's going to decide which dogs are dangerous breeds and should be destroyed... There are NO dangerous breeds.. Only idiot owners who train dogs to be dangerous (often by not training or caring for the dog at all).
As for sharks... I've never even gone in the water anywhere near a net or drum line and I'm still here. Everywhere I've ever surfed has been free of that stuff.
I don't agree with the Cull in WA, Qld, NSW or anywhere else. I dive with these creatures and they are awesome. Just remember... They were there first. If you want to go in their environment accept it as a risk and deal with it. Stop behaving like you think humans have more right to be here than any other creature on the planet
Select to expand quoteNikita said..
Nek minnut...
Fatal car accident - ban cars
Someone falls down the stairs and dies - ban stairs
Kid killed by a dog - cull dogs
Etc...
Actually.. Fatal car acccident - driver gets banned
Someone falls down stairs - their own drunken fault
Kid killed by dog - dog DOES get culled.
problem?
Select to expand quotebusterwa said..
Tell your friends and family is safe to go in the water.
Select to expand quotedeXtrous said..Nikita said..
Nek minnut...
Fatal car accident - ban cars
Someone falls down the stairs and dies - ban stairs
Kid killed by a dog - cull dogs
Etc...
Actually.. Fatal car acccident - driver gets banned
Someone falls down stairs - their own drunken fault
Kid killed by dog - dog DOES get culled.
problem?
When there's a fatal car accident we don't start banning random drivers.
If someone falls down the stairs we don't go into random houses and take them down.
When a dog kills some kid the council doesn't start laying poison baits around the neighborhood.
Drum lines are indiscriminate and are going to kill a lot more than just the (at most 6) sharks that have killed someone in the last 5 years.
The only thing the culling will do is bring attention to how many sharks are actually out there. Which will start (an even greater) hysterical panic, rather than lead to the realisation that they've always been out there and hardly bother people.
No but we try fixing the problem don't we ie put traffic lights ,wear bike helmets,put safety bags in cars .All theses things make you feel safer when you are actively doing what you want to do.To reduce the risk is what it's about .
Why do you hippies always fog your story with vending machines dogs cars ants .. Get off the crack..
So, what'll be the next apex predator to appear that will need a culling in the next few years?
Select to expand quoteKamikuza said..
So, what'll be the next apex predator to appear that will need a culling in the next few years?
At this rate the apex predator will be the blow fish in a coupla years 
. Now that's a cull I'd get behind!
Select to expand quoteKneeling said..
No but we try fixing the problem don't we ie put traffic lights ,wear bike helmets,put safety bags in cars .All theses things make you feel safer when you are actively doing what you want to do.To reduce the risk is what it's about .
At less than one fatal attack a year over the last 13 years, how much more can the risk be reduced?
Select to expand quotePackraT said...Kneeling said..
No but we try fixing the problem don't we ie put traffic lights ,wear bike helmets,put safety bags in cars .All theses things make you feel safer when you are actively doing what you want to do.To reduce the risk is what it's about .
At less than one fatal attack a year over the last 13 years, how much more can the risk be reduced?
7 fatals in two years
Select to expand quoteRazzonater said..PackraT said...Kneeling said..
No but we try fixing the problem don't we ie put traffic lights ,wear bike helmets,put safety bags in cars .All theses things make you feel safer when you are actively doing what you want to do.To reduce the risk is what it's about .
At less than one fatal attack a year over the last 13 years, how much more can the risk be reduced?
7 fatals in two years
In Western Australia, the region we're actually talking about in this thread, where the current shark cull debate is going on, where drum lines were not previously used?
There were actually 3 - 2 in 2012, 1 in 2013.
Select to expand quoteRazzonater said...PackraT said...Kneeling said..
No but we try fixing the problem don't we ie put traffic lights ,wear bike helmets,put safety bags in cars .All theses things make you feel safer when you are actively doing what you want to do.To reduce the risk is what it's about .
At less than one fatal attack a year over the last 13 years, how much more can the risk be reduced?
7 fatals in two years
Compair that to..1 death since 1963 on shark drum beaches in qld
I've taken into account the missing swimmer at mullaloo who was an experienced surfer in waist deep water........also several drownings down south bodies not recovered.......
Select to expand quotePackraT said..Razzonater said..PackraT said...Kneeling said..
No but we try fixing the problem don't we ie put traffic lights ,wear bike helmets,put safety bags in cars .All theses things make you feel safer when you are actively doing what you want to do.To reduce the risk is what it's about .
At less than one fatal attack a year over the last 13 years, how much more can the risk be reduced?
7 fatals in two years
In Western Australia, the region we're actually talking about in this thread, where the current shark cull debate is going on, where drum lines were not previously used?
There were actually 3 - 2 in 2012, 1 in 2013.
and in the same period, NOBODY was killed in WA by a vending machine. Making the chances of being killed by a shark (in WA at least), greater.
Dont you just love statistics 
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I've taken into account the missing swimmer at mullaloo who was an experienced surfer in waist deep water........also several drownings down south bodies not recovered.......
So if someone died in the ocean you're counting it as a fatal shark attack? Even when there's no actual evidence?
Argue that point with the coroner PackraT. Moving along, what do you see when you look at the following numbers?
1948. 67. 95. 97. 2000. 04. 05. 08. 10. 11. 11. 11. 12. 12. 13. 13.
A young boy went missing over the weekend in the Northern Territory. The Police Tactical Response Group have so far shot and killed 2 large crocodiles while searching for the boys remains. WHERE ARE ALL THE PROTESTERS?
4000 people turned up at Cottesloe beach a few weeks back to protest a 'cull' here in WA. NSW and Queensland have been netting and drum lining since the 1950's. WHAT HAVE ALL THE PROTESTERS BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 60 YEARS?
The media published photos of a large tiger shark hooked alongside a fishing boat and 'environmentalists' and celebrities from all over the world have been chiming in and condemning the practice. WHERE ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE WHEN THOUSANDS OF FISH ARE HOOKED DAILY AND ARE LEFT GASPING AND SLOWLY DYING IN A BUCKET. Why is it cruel if a fish is 3m long, yet perfectly acceptable for something smaller?
This is NOT a cull. Its a mitigation strategy to remove large, potentially dangerous sharks from areas highly populated by humans.
Why don't we have protests against commercial overfishing, pollution, domestic violence, poverty, alcohol related violence and drug related crime? One would argue that each would be a more noble cause than following the ignorant, ill-advised herd.
Select to expand quoteThinkaBowtit said..
Argue that point with the coroner PackraT. Moving along, what do you see when you look at the following numbers?
1948. 67. 95. 97. 2000. 04. 05. 08. 10. 11. 11. 11. 12. 12. 13. 13.
I'll have to argue that with the coroner since he'd be the only one arguing in good faith.
In the string of numbers I see you've added in an extra 13 where there shouldn't be one.
If you want to look at the much bigger picture, yes, recorded shark attacks show a rising trend since 1948. That statistic is meaningless without controls for greater human population in WA and their increased interaction with the ocean.
Over the period of 52 years from 48 to 2000 WA's population increased by roughly 1.4 million. In the 13 year period from 2000 to 2013 (a quarter of the time) WA's population grew by roughly 800,000 more than half the previous 48 years and most of that growth was along the coast.
I'm not going any deeper into this, but I have doubts that there's any individual increased risk of shark attack and I don't think the drum lining is going to do anything significant.
At the end of the day, if you're too scared to get in the water without having to kill whats in there, don't get in.
Select to expand quoteLateStarter said..
Why don't we have protests against commercial overfishing, pollution, domestic violence, poverty, alcohol related violence and drug related crime? One would argue that each would be a more noble cause than following the ignorant, ill-advised herd.
PackratT said: "In the string of numbers I see you've added in an extra 13 where there shouldn't be one."
Martin Tann, 24, suspected shark attack victim disappeared from Mullaloo Beach.
There's not a growing trend since 1948, four attacks in 50 years would be somewhere in the vicinity of normal, or even acceptable to all but the families and friends of those four victims. The trend became obvious when multiple fatals in subsequent years started.
And +1 for everything LateStarter said.
Select to expand quotePackraT said..LateStarter said.. You're ill'informed if you think there aren't activist groups working on these very problems right now.
Why don't we have protests against commercial overfishing, pollution, domestic violence, poverty, alcohol related violence and drug related crime? One would argue that each would be a more noble cause than following the ignorant, ill-advised herd.
Of course there are.
My post however was directed at the hypocritical, ignorant, media led herd of people calling this a 'cull', a 'massacre', a 'barbaric solution'. The majority of Anti Cullers present an emotional argument, not a rational one. Nobody has offered an alternative solution. The protest placards, blogs and facebook posts are muddied with inaccurate, irrelevant statistics and sometimes nonsensical slogans.
What were all these passionate, outspoken people doing 8 weeks ago?
C'mon anti-drum liners, read this report and discuss;
www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/extra/pdf/fishweb/sharksafetyreport.pdf
