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110,000 signatures in 5 days.
Sign here if you'd like the government to keep the original, vastly superior but slightly more expensive NBN:
www.change.org/p/the-liberal-party-of-australia-reconsider-your-plan-for-a-fttn-nbn-in-favour-of-a-superior-ftth-nbn
An article: www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-10/university-student-petition-to-scrap-nbn-takes-off-online/4949372
Where is the third documents to scrap both plans all together ?
Couldn't we just leave this as is ? Business model not government enterprise ?
When I needed broadband for my business I had fiber lay down to my door premises within week or two at no cost for me at all ?
The only problem that last few meters was on the copper but that could / should be negotiated without the need for complete new enterprise.
Right, so next time I see a 3 yr old at the polling booths, I can dismiss them as having been coached.
I'm with Macroscien on this one.
Although working in IT and the lure of gigabit + network speeds, the economics of fibre to the premises does not add up.
The NBN is a nation building bit of infrastructure akin to the 21st century version of the Snowy River scheme, but with mounting national debt, the fibre to the node model is cheaper & faster to deploy. The last hop to the premises can be done at a later date, or if you can't wait, run it yourself or let business provide plans that include this.
Lets spend the estimated $15 billion saving on something else.
But they're still part of the population equation.
But they're still part of the population equation.
But they're still part of the population equation.
Macro, Westoz, we've been... ahem... robustly discussing.. the virtues of the NBN on here for months. Please don't come in now with nonsense and make everyone start all over again with the same arguements.
FTTN is *not* faster to deploy, just sounds it on paper before you start doing it. It requires pits, power, nodes with UPS/backup batteries, and council permission for 80,000 sites. NBN rollout guys will tell you it's faster just to run the cable.
Economics add up - never costs anywhere near the same to do things piecemeal, cheapest way is always in bulk, do it at once. go into your street pits ONCE and pull all the fibre, not 47 individual times as you make people pay.
Total costings, inc copper maintenance, show FTTN a very similar cost. So why not do it right? And avoid ugly fridge cabinets on every other street corner while you're at it?
Micro - it's not about home downloads it's about replacing copper with the next gen, breaking telstra's monopoly, and thinking ahead.
There's the 20 second recap, please go read all the other NBN threads.
It won't happen.
Why do you think Murdoch wanted the Libs in so bad? It's simply to protect cable TV sales. Every other country with fast net (read most) cable TV sales have fallen heavily.
It was a major election issue so they will just say they were given a mandate that Australia did not want it. Game over regardless if Murdoch media presented all of the benefits of the slower slightly cheaper version...
The extra cost of doing this job properly is spent over the years the project takes to complete. 15billion over 10 successive bugets is a drop in the ocean. For some reason we do need to increase defence spending though...
How far have we gone with the NBN so far? ie; regardless of your position on the subject - is it worth pulling out now or best to finish it and cop the costs?
Spend the cash on providing a reliable and consistent wireless service. Cables are so old fashioned.
But they're still part of the population equation.
Seem to me like in Western Australia all the rich places like applecross got it and all the places that really needed it or dont even have internet didnt get a look at.
Im in. mobile connection is faster than my lan connection
I must sign. O goody I can beat that guy online gaming by .00045 seconds
We must have the worlds fastest internet, so I can download a movie in .00044 seconds.
I don't care how much it costs, give it to me, I think I will vote twice. like at the election.
Since digging and laying cables is the most expensive part of that NBN work shouldn't we already put two or more fibres to every home instead of just one ? We could double the speed even further with this minimal expense.
One fiber then will serve us SuperExtra High Definition Movies, next will be used for gaming exclusively, two thicker cables could bring more porn and one tinny for email should do just fine.
Ohh I forget one thing, multiply that by amount of family members too.
Didn't you all realized that the weak point is already human not the hardware ?
The same race was with computer processor performance.
Regardless what is the GHz processor speed and amount of cores - the dumb end user will not produce any better result that his IQ is.
Get yourself extra brain neuron transfusion mates for that 50 billions.
