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Skepticism and critical thinking

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Created by remery 2 months ago, 3 Jul 2024
FormulaNova
WA, 14625 posts
24 Jul 2024 8:20AM
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Pcdefender said..
I am halfway through listening to the Derrick Broze interview.



I understand. I have had it running in the background for 10 minutes now and am already feeling drowsy.

Maybe this would be a solution for those of us that have smoke alarms that go off at 3am?

What I think you are missing is that you look at these links because you want to. You want to watch content that already aligns with your views. Most people are the same.

The rest of us; we see a link and there needs to be something intriguing for us to open it or watch the content. This is not because you have not mentioned anything about it and why it is special. So why would anyone watch it?

fangman
WA, 1528 posts
24 Jul 2024 9:37AM
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I was looking for David Mitchells discussion of archeologists, and instead found this which perhaps is a bit more on topic:
(under huge pressure right now to post a link correctly....cmd + V don't let me down )

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FormulaNova
WA, 14625 posts
24 Jul 2024 10:20AM
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fangman said..
I was looking for David Mitchells discussion of archeologists, and instead found this which perhaps is a bit more on topic:
(under huge pressure right now to post a link correctly....cmd + V don't let me down )



I have a theory that deep conspiracy theorists don't have a sense of humour. So they wouldn't know who David Mitchell is or think that he is funny.

I think the same thing that makes them lousy at filtering nonsense also makes them lousy at filtering things to understand when things are meant to be funny.

David Mitchell said 'bull****'! Clearly he is part of the deep-state and has been told to say this ;-)

Froth Goth
677 posts
24 Jul 2024 12:01PM
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Super hans
+ sir digby chicken ceaser > david mitchell

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fangman
WA, 1528 posts
24 Jul 2024 12:12PM
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FormulaNova said..

fangman said..
I was looking for David Mitchells discussion of archeologists, and instead found this which perhaps is a bit more on topic:
(under huge pressure right now to post a link correctly....cmd + V don't let me down )




I have a theory that deep conspiracy theorists don't have a sense of humour. So they wouldn't know who David Mitchell is or think that he is funny.

I think the same thing that makes them lousy at filtering nonsense also makes them lousy at filtering things to understand when things are meant to be funny.

David Mitchell said 'bull****'! Clearly he is part of the deep-state and has been told to say this ;-)


lol.
Another ostrich!
The Illuminati use Linux with a Ubuntu variant that decodes the hand gestures on any video to reveal 'The secrets behind chair workouts for seniors along with overnight stupendous penis enlargement.' Duh.
(I would post the link but I don't want to Decrepit to endanger himself any further.)

fangman
WA, 1528 posts
24 Jul 2024 12:23PM
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Froth Goth said..
Super Hans...



lol
Super Hans
Dead set Legend

FormulaNova
WA, 14625 posts
24 Jul 2024 12:59PM
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fangman said..

Froth Goth said..
Super Hans...




lol
Super Hans
Dead set Legend


I think frothgoth was actually hinting that he is Superhans. I can see it. I don't even need to see a picture of them side by side. The posts are enough.

decrepit
WA, 12092 posts
24 Jul 2024 1:56PM
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fangman said..
(I would post the link but I don't want to Decrepit to endanger himself any further.)


POST the link, POST the LINK!!!!!

Froth Goth
677 posts
24 Jul 2024 2:57PM
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Were nothing alike in character







And i look nothing like him physically

fangman
WA, 1528 posts
25 Jul 2024 8:29AM
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Hmm. How about Psycho Paul from 'Ideal'? (early 2000's vintage Johnny Vegas comedy)

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Froth Goth
677 posts
26 Jul 2024 9:07AM
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I still have no idea how ideal went for like 7 or so seasons

I think when fatboy slim dropped the song they used on the final episode of SPACED at the free fatboy slim gig where instead of a few thousand but millions turned up closeing down the trains etc was pretty much peak of my "generation"

Bondi new years 2006 i was coooooked first and last time my whole family did pills together

FormulaNova
WA, 14625 posts
26 Jul 2024 7:12PM
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Froth Goth said..
I still have no idea how ideal went for like 7 or so seasons


Ideal was great. Maybe it seemed 'everyday' to you? To the rest of us it was funny. Well to me at least, and I can understand not everyone has the same sense of humour.

Y'alright?

remery
WA, 2682 posts
30 Jul 2024 2:59PM
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D3 said..
Is that something we can vaccinated against? (I note the WHO has it listed under non-communicable respiratory disease)

I'm not arguing that improvements in sanitation, hygiene, building materials and standards, food production and safety haven't had an impact on human health and reducing burden of disease.

But those improvements don't line up with as significant a reduction in burden of disease as vaccination does for infectious diseases that have widespread vaccination (vaccines providing herd immunity).

Ensuring everyone has access to clean drinking water and effective sewerage is something developed nations take for granted, but has little impact on spread of disease like measles, diphtheria or pertussis.

Whereas vaccination prevents millions of deaths from those diseases each year.


Vaccination has averted 154m deaths

A recent study by researchers from around the world has found that the WHO's Expanded Programme on Immunisation (EPI) "has provided the single greatest contribution to improved infant survival over the past 50 years, averting 154 million deaths, including 146 million among children younger than five years, of whom 104 million were infants younger than one year".

The EPI was established by the WHO in May 1974, motivated by successful progress toward the eradication of smallpox. The aim was to make life-saving vaccines available to everyone globally. The recent study was designed to mark the 50th anniversary of the EPI.

The researchers, drawn from many different countries and institutions, said the study "used a suite of mathematical and statistical models to estimate the global and regional public health impact of 50 years of vaccination against 14 pathogens. We considered coverage of all routine and supplementary vaccines delivered since 1974 and estimated the mortality and morbidity averted to each age cohort relative to a hypothetical scenario of no historical vaccination. ... We estimate that vaccination has accounted for 40% of the observed decline in global infant mortality, 52% in the African region."

The Skeptic Magazine, June 24

Pcdefender
WA, 1402 posts
30 Jul 2024 3:59PM
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Anyone who trusts The World Hell Organisation after what's gone down the last 4 years....

Actually, any of their alphabet agencies starting with a W there should be alarm bells ringing but no doubt many will keep believing, a bit with like Fake as fark Trump.

remery
WA, 2682 posts
30 Jul 2024 4:57PM
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In the video, Trump can be heard discussing the amount of doses of vaccines that are scheduled for children, and suggested that after taking a high volume of vaccines, "you see the baby all of a sudden starting to change radically." "When you feed a baby, Bobby, a vaccination that is, like, 38 different vaccines and it looks like it's been for a horse. Not a, you know, 10-pound or 20-pound baby," Trump says on the call. "And then you see the baby all of a sudden starting to change radically. I've seen it too many times." Trump also appeared to express some skepticism toward public health professionals who accurately state the recommended immunization schedule for children is safe and effective, saying, "And then you hear it doesn't have an impact, right?"

edition.cnn.com/2024/07/16/politics/donald-trump-robert-f-kennedy-vaccine-skepticism/index.html

remery
WA, 2682 posts
30 Jul 2024 4:57PM
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Abstract
Donald Trump is the first U.S. President to be on the record as having anti-vaccination attitudes. Given his enormous reach and influence, it is worthwhile examining the extent to which allegiance to Trump is associated with the public's perceptions of vaccine safety and efficacy. In both Study 1 (N = 518) and Study 2 (N = 316), Trump voters were significantly more concerned about vaccines than other Americans. This tendency was reduced to non-significance after controlling for conspiracist ideation (i.e., general willingness to believe conspiracy theories) and, to a lesser degree, political conservatism. In Study 2, participants were later exposed to real Trump tweets that either focused on his anti-vaccination views, or focused on golf (the control condition). Compared to when the same respondents were sampled a week earlier, there was a significant increase in vaccine concern, but only among Trump voters who were exposed to the anti-vaccination tweets. The effects were exclusively negative: there was no evidence that anti-vaccination Trump tweets polarized liberal voters into becoming more pro-vaccination. In line with the social identity model of leadership, Study 2 indicates that some leaders do not simply represent the attitudes and opinions of the group, but can also change group members' opinions.

General discussion
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One overarching debate about the influence of political leaders is the extent to which they shape supporters' views, or merely reflect them. Study 2 makes clear that the "Trump effect" is not merely a case of Trump holding a mirror to people's pre-existing views: his messages have the power to change attitudes. As such, future research needs to take seriously the impact of Trump as a change-agent, one that is impeding the broader campaign to increase vaccination uptake and to eliminate infectious diseases.

"Donald Trump and vaccination: The effect of political identity, conspiracist ideation and presidential tweets on vaccine hesitancy". Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, Volume 88, May 2020. doi.org/10.1016/j.jesp.2019.103947

Pcdefender
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30 Jul 2024 8:02PM
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remery
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30 Jul 2024 8:36PM
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Pcdefender said..


Good meme, never forget the intelligent people.

cammd
QLD, 3735 posts
31 Jul 2024 10:06AM
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remery said..

Pcdefender said..



Good meme, never forget the intelligent people.


If you value safety over freedom and demand it from government then you are asking the government to treat you like a child, like a baby. Every decision about your life will not be your own, you will be taken care of, like a baby.

Every application of critical thinking will lead to that inevitable conclusion.

BTW you will still end up dead

fangman
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31 Jul 2024 10:00AM
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remery said..

Pcdefender said..



Good meme, never forget the intelligent people.


Do realise these people advocate your oppression every single day by forcing you to wear a seatbelt? I would love to see the look of smugness disappear off their faces when they drive off the edge of the earth and realise that their seatbelts are useless and they should have spent more time being kind to elephants and turtles.

decrepit
WA, 12092 posts
31 Jul 2024 10:49AM
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OK all you critical thinkers here's something to ponder.
Experimental Metaphysics.

www.quantamagazine.org/metaphysical-experiments-test-hidden-assumptions-about-reality-20240730/

You can only have very critical thought, if you remove your false assumptions about the nature of reality.

D3
WA, 982 posts
31 Jul 2024 2:10PM
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cammd said..

remery said..


Pcdefender said..




Good meme, never forget the intelligent people.



If you value safety over freedom and demand it from government then you are asking the government to treat you like a child, like a baby. Every decision about your life will not be your own, you will be taken care of, like a baby.

Every application of critical thinking will lead to that inevitable conclusion.

BTW you will still end up dead


But you're ok with the government making decisions for women.....

cammd
QLD, 3735 posts
31 Jul 2024 4:27PM
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D3 said..


cammd said..



remery said..




Pcdefender said..






Good meme, never forget the intelligent people.





If you value safety over freedom and demand it from government then you are asking the government to treat you like a child, like a baby. Every decision about your life will not be your own, you will be taken care of, like a baby.

Every application of critical thinking will lead to that inevitable conclusion.

BTW you will still end up dead




But you're ok with the government making decisions for women.....



What ever do you mean? Have you got some critical thinking you would like to share?

Froth Goth
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31 Jul 2024 2:53PM
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remery
WA, 2682 posts
31 Jul 2024 3:41PM
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fangman said..
Do realise these people advocate your oppression every single day by forcing you to wear a seatbelt? I would love to see the look of smugness disappear off their faces when they drive off the edge of the earth and realise that their seatbelts are useless and they should have spent more time being kind to elephants and turtles.


The oppressive gubberment won't let me drink six pints of beer and drive home.

Pcdefender
WA, 1402 posts
31 Jul 2024 7:07PM
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remery said.

The oppressive gubberment won't let me drink six pints of beer and drive home.


Also, for a time they would not let you keep your job on conditional of taking an experimental 'vaccine'.

Fast forward to July of 2024 and there have been over 140K reports of harm to Australia TGA database.

Yes, they are not separate reports but reports all the same.

The forced rollout was done for 'health' and had Jack to do with making big bucks for Big Pharma - right.

remery
WA, 2682 posts
31 Jul 2024 7:45PM
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Pcdefender said..
The forced rollout was done for 'health' and had Jack to do with making big bucks for Big Pharma - right.


Its taken a while but you finally made an intelligent comment.

Pcdefender
WA, 1402 posts
31 Jul 2024 11:43PM
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Read the comments.

Finally, the penny seems to be dropping.


FormulaNova
WA, 14625 posts
1 Aug 2024 8:33AM
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Pcdefender said..
Read the comments.

Finally, the penny seems to be dropping.



Wow, you seem to have provided something worth watching there for a second and then I realised that you were really focusing on the comments by other conspiracy theorists, not the actual content. It's good that you can filter the interesting stuff out and concentrate on the thought bubbles from other random people.

The program was about a heart condition that was there and shows up more amongst athletes, even though they already have the condition. I think the implication is that this sort of thing has always been there but they have only identified it relatively recently and it becomes a problem for people that stress their heart more.

No, ignore all that and concentrate on people that think the only reason for heart related deaths is the covid vaccinations.

You seem to search for anything that can bolster what you want to think and ignore anything else. Lucky you weren't on the titanic... "no, it wasn't icebergs, it was aliens blasting a hole in the side of the ship with a laser".

remery
WA, 2682 posts
1 Aug 2024 10:45AM
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Pcdefender said..
Read the comments.
Finally, the penny seems to be dropping.



Finally you post a link to a video worth watching. Comments from a medical professional. I think you are finally getting it.



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