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Blownaway
QLD, 776 posts
29 Apr 2010 8:29AM
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king of the point said...

Hope new kites in the future will round up more into the wind with out constant drag and or more de power allowing a tad more freedom on da wave face ,to slaye and gouge the eyes out of da dragons. [b]allowing you to go the oppisite way to your anchored power source.


BUT hey you be windsurfing


The right size kite for the conditions is what you are after......just like windsurfing.
smaller the kite the faster they fly which generates power rather than just relying on the" constant drag". Small kite will get you more places on the face, "oh whats that your pole wont fit in the barrel so no tube time for polyies" Shame. oh well you can just stay out on the shoulder I guess,but hey then youd be windsurfing

Poida
WA, 1916 posts
29 Apr 2010 11:50AM
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ooooohhhhhhh

boom boom

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
29 Apr 2010 12:14PM
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keep it nice children..... Dont get it locked.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
29 Apr 2010 6:21PM
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Has anyone ever seen a poledancer land a jump over 3 meters??????

Every vid you see of a dancer getting any decent air,they fall out of the sky like an
elephant skydiving.

Dont really see the point of trying to jump if you know there is never any chance of
landing it.A bit like doing a jump on a dirt bike and landing in a lake.

If they do actually land on their board,they sink and fall off.

When they can land and ride away clean and powered up, then I might be impressed,but I cant see the sport progressing to that point when it hasnt progressed at all in the last 10years.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
29 Apr 2010 4:39PM
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If you put your kite low and don't use it to dangle around like a dope on a rope you would "fall" out of the sky to, like any other boardsport.

RayQ
WA, 635 posts
29 Apr 2010 4:40PM
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lotofwind said...

Has anyone ever seen a poledancer land a jump over 3 meters??????

Every vid you see of a dancer getting any decent air,they fall out of the sky like an
elephant skydiving.

Dont really see the point of trying to jump if you know there is never any chance of
landing it.A bit like doing a jump on a dirt bike and landing in a lake.

If they do actually land on their board,they sink and fall off.

When they can land and ride away clean and powered up, then I might be impressed,but I cant see the sport progressing to that point when it hasnt progressed at all in the last 10years.


You shouldn't make statements about a sport you very obviously know nothing about

Blownaway
QLD, 776 posts
29 Apr 2010 6:54PM
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Dont get me wrong,I think windsurfing is still an awsome sport in the right conditions.big waves an strong wind! Its def way harder to master than kite surfing and more taxing on the body and takes longer to setup an packdown an you get smashed more but I used to like watching Robby Naish an co goin hard at it an I'm sure you westy boys go smashing it up too just have not seen the evidence on vid yet ??

Got any good links anyone?

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
29 Apr 2010 7:03PM
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RayQ , I can only go by what I see down the beach and on vids.
Please post vid to show me a big jump landing clean and powered.
Maybe some pro's can,but I havnt seen it.
Maybe one of the legendary KOTP???


PS this isnt a troll attempt,
I have been searching the web to find one but havent had any luck.

Is it possable???????

shitdetector
NSW, 100 posts
29 Apr 2010 7:18PM
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Check out the footage on the wind surf forum of Jaeger Stone.

Awesome in anyone's language.

Radman
WA, 629 posts
29 Apr 2010 5:18PM
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Mini Mal said...

Radman you look better with hat on thats 4 sure


the receeding hair line is evident

zola
WA, 79 posts
29 Apr 2010 5:22PM
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Jumping on a windsurfer is awesome and takes lots of skill, not like kiting - its too easy to jump/dangle.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
29 Apr 2010 7:26PM
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****detector said...

Check out the footage on the wind surf forum of Jaeger Stone.

Awesome in anyone's language.


cool Im off for a look.

edit just did a search in poledancers general forum for Jaeger Stone, no luck,

anyone got the link??

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
29 Apr 2010 7:34PM
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zola said...

Jumping on a windsurfer is awesome and takes lots of skill, not like kiting - its too easy to jump/dangle.


I agree,it is easy to jump kitsurfing,great fun too.
But the question is , can a poledancer jump 20 foot high and land without falling off and sinking??
This is not a "we can and you cant" question.
Just want to know if its possable to use your sail to slow your decent and then power up to land and ride away clean. or is it always a "splatttttt" landing??

kiter666
QLD, 49 posts
29 Apr 2010 7:37PM
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No need to get defensive poley's, just answer lotofwinds question. Can you do it

RayQ
WA, 635 posts
29 Apr 2010 7:25PM
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There was the world cup held on the Cape Verde Islands a few years ago see if you can find it, or some poley boys can post a link, the guys competing had to give it up after trashing all the gear they had taken along...

terminal
1421 posts
29 Apr 2010 8:22PM
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RayQ said...

There was the world cup held on the Cape Verde Islands a few years ago see if you can find it, or some poley boys can post a link, the guys competing had to give it up after trashing all the gear they had taken along...


You mean this one?

www.jp-australia.com/podcast/jp-cv.wmv

Carantoc
WA, 6666 posts
29 Apr 2010 8:24PM
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lotofwind said...

Has anyone ever seen a poledancer land a jump over 3 meters??????

Every vid you see of a dancer getting any decent air,they fall out of the sky like an
elephant skydiving.

Dont really see the point of trying to jump if you know there is never any chance of
landing it.A bit like doing a jump on a dirt bike and landing in a lake.

If they do actually land on their board,they sink and fall off.

When they can land and ride away clean and powered up, then I might be impressed,but I cant see the sport progressing to that point when it hasnt progressed at all in the last 10years.



Go 20 kmph on a skate board and s***t yourself
Go 50 kmph on a push bike and get excited
Go 150 kmph on a bike and grin
Go 200 kmph in a train and enjoy the journey
Go 500 kmph in a plane and be pissed off it takes so long to get there.

Perhaps it doesn't have to be about the height of the jump or the time in the air or the speed of the landing.

Show me a kiter that loops around his kite instead of dangling on the strings and spinning around and I'll be impressed. It will be done one day I am sure. Paragliders loop with the wing flying backwards for a short time. Maybe kite strings are too long and speed is an issue ?

How can you say windsurfing hasn't progressed in the last 10 years ? It progressed into kiting didn't it ? You do kite don't you ?

Carantoc
WA, 6666 posts
29 Apr 2010 8:27PM
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lotofwind said...

Has anyone ever seen a poledancer land a jump over 3 meters??????



And - given a windsurfing mast is generally somewhere between 3.7m and 4.6m long any windsurfer who loops, forwards or backwards and land and sails away must have surely jumped over 3m and sailed away ?

If you want to see this go down the beach on a windy day.




Carantoc
WA, 6666 posts
29 Apr 2010 8:28PM
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Carantoc said...

lotofwind said...

Has anyone ever seen a poledancer land a jump over 3 meters??????



And - given a windsurfing mast is generally somewhere between 3.7m and 4.6m long any windsurfer who loops, forwards or backwards and land and sails away must have surely jumped over 3m and sailed away ?

If you want to see this go down the beach on a windy day.






Sorry, terminology issue there - the 'windsurfing mast' is what I believe you refer to as the 'pole'

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
29 Apr 2010 8:37PM
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kiting is mainly for people who are to sh!t to windsurf or do just about any other boardsport. They find homage in kiting because they can learn to ride in a day, jump in a week, do a fully sick pullup or "ride" a wave in a month... They like it because they can believe they are good at the sport in no time, they can believe they are doing the motions that they think are hard. They write and give useless information on forums after they have been doing the sport for a month because they think they know something. Learning to do a backroll off a diving board would take longer and be harder to achieve than it is kiting.

Who cares if you think windsurfing is gay, at least it's a hell of a lot more legit than kiting will ever be. I would be glad if I was still a poley, at least the fact that it's somewhat hard to learn weeds out some of the complete w@nkers that would otherwise be clogging up the beach. Pitty for them now they just learn to kite instead...

colinwill78
VIC, 1395 posts
29 Apr 2010 10:51PM
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at sir rowdy: the simple things in life are often the best.

I'm simple

terminal
1421 posts
29 Apr 2010 9:05PM
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lotofwind said...

zola said...

Jumping on a windsurfer is awesome and takes lots of skill, not like kiting - its too easy to jump/dangle.


I agree,it is easy to jump kitsurfing,great fun too.
But the question is , can a poledancer jump 20 foot high and land without falling off and sinking??
This is not a "we can and you cant" question.
Just want to know if its possable to use your sail to slow your decent and then power up to land and ride away clean. or is it always a "splatttttt" landing??




No video of a 20' version, but a stalled pushloop could be planed out of. The rider would have to swing back under the sail just as he reached the water. There's an example at 2.10 in this video, and another at 4.28 but it's not 20'.

If you look at the video here from PWA Sylt, at 3.00 Robby Swift lands planing from a pushloop, but they cut away just after he lands.
www.jp-australia.com/2010/index.php


terminal
1421 posts
29 Apr 2010 9:17PM
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lotofwind said...

Has anyone ever seen a poledancer land a jump over 3 meters??????

Every vid you see of a dancer getting any decent air,they fall out of the sky like an
elephant skydiving.

Dont really see the point of trying to jump if you know there is never any chance of
landing it.A bit like doing a jump on a dirt bike and landing in a lake.

If they do actually land on their board,they sink and fall off.

When they can land and ride away clean and powered up, then I might be impressed,but I cant see the sport progressing to that point when it hasnt progressed at all in the last 10years.


What's 62.3' in metres?



Carantoc
WA, 6666 posts
29 Apr 2010 9:31PM
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What's 62.3' in metres?



I am sure it is more than 3.

Even accounting for some strange US measure (I know their pint is not quite a pint), inaccuracies inherent in GPS measurement of levels due to the similarity of satellite height orbits, pessimism in some peoples minds and optimism in others, I would be pretty sure it is more than 3.

KnutH
VIC, 426 posts
30 Apr 2010 2:19AM
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sir ROWDY said...

kiting is mainly for people who are to sh!t to windsurf or do just about any other boardsport. They find homage in kiting because they can learn to ride in a day, jump in a week, do a fully sick pullup or "ride" a wave in a month... They like it because they can believe they are good at the sport in no time, they can believe they are doing the motions that they think are hard. They write and give useless information on forums after they have been doing the sport for a month because they think they know something. Learning to do a backroll off a diving board would take longer and be harder to achieve than it is kiting.

Who cares if you think windsurfing is gay, at least it's a hell of a lot more legit than kiting will ever be. I would be glad if I was still a poley, at least the fact that it's somewhat hard to learn weeds out some of the complete w@nkers that would otherwise be clogging up the beach. Pitty for them now they just learn to kite instead...


Legit!!
Well kind of..

When I went surfing again after a few months of rest, I noticed that I was looking like a complete kook and could not do cr@p compared to kiting. Fighting currents, reading the breaks.. catching a wave and doing a few turns is a whole lot harder than doing the same in kiting.
So I definitely respect good surfers for their skill, but am I tempted to change sports?

Certainly not, because kiting is just more "efficient" in many ways, and even elite surfers will never come close to the mobility and variety that we have.

Regarding windsurfing, I know completely nonathletic people who poledanced back and forth in no time, which does not make them legit in my books.
And for those who made it all the way to backrolls, I don't see why they would not find a challenge kiting. Nobody prevents them from throwing megaloops or kiteloop handlepasses.
And there is nothing like that in windsurfing.

myusernam
QLD, 6124 posts
30 Apr 2010 8:59AM
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KnutH said...

sir ROWDY said...

kiting is mainly for people who are to sh!t to windsurf or do just about any other boardsport. They find homage in kiting because they can learn to ride in a day, jump in a week, do a fully sick pullup or "ride" a wave in a month... They like it because they can believe they are good at the sport in no time, they can believe they are doing the motions that they think are hard. They write and give useless information on forums after they have been doing the sport for a month because they think they know something. Learning to do a backroll off a diving board would take longer and be harder to achieve than it is kiting.

Who cares if you think windsurfing is gay, at least it's a hell of a lot more legit than kiting will ever be. I would be glad if I was still a poley, at least the fact that it's somewhat hard to learn weeds out some of the complete w@nkers that would otherwise be clogging up the beach. Pitty for them now they just learn to kite instead...


Legit!!
Well kind of..

When I went surfing again after a few months of rest, I noticed that I was looking like a complete kook and could not do cr@p compared to kiting. Fighting currents, reading the breaks.. catching a wave and doing a few turns is a whole lot harder than doing the same in kiting.
So I definitely respect good surfers for their skill, but am I tempted to change sports?

Certainly not, because kiting is just more "efficient" in many ways, and even elite surfers will never come close to the mobility and variety that we have.

Regarding windsurfing, I know completely nonathletic people who poledanced back and forth in no time, which does not make them legit in my books.
And for those who made it all the way to backrolls, I don't see why they would not find a challenge kiting. Nobody prevents them from throwing megaloops or kiteloop handlepasses.
And there is nothing like that in windsurfing.



Ever tried a forward loop on a windsurfer? Pretty scary. takes more guts than a kiteloop.

terminal
1421 posts
30 Apr 2010 7:54AM
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Blownaway said...

king of the point said...

Hope new kites in the future will round up more into the wind with out constant drag and or more de power allowing a tad more freedom on da wave face ,to slaye and gouge the eyes out of da dragons. [b]allowing you to go the oppisite way to your anchored power source.


BUT hey you be windsurfing


The right size kite for the conditions is what you are after......just like windsurfing.
smaller the kite the faster they fly which generates power rather than just relying on the" constant drag". Small kite will get you more places on the face, "oh whats that your pole wont fit in the barrel so no tube time for polyies" Shame. oh well you can just stay out on the shoulder I guess,but hey then youd be windsurfing


No tube time for poledancers yet, but it just needs a big enough tube.



cwamit
WA, 1194 posts
30 Apr 2010 8:50AM
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zola said...

Jumping on a windsurfer is awesome and takes lots of skill, not like kiting - its too easy to jump/dangle.


i agree, jumping on a windsurfer is very easy for a kiter than for a windsurfer, kiter's can jump anywhere anytime, windsurfers need the right ramp and the other windsurfer at the right placement to make it all come together - literally

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
30 Apr 2010 9:00AM
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KnutH said...

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sir ROWDY said...


Regarding windsurfing, I know completely nonathletic people who poledanced back and forth in no time, which does not make them legit in my books.
And for those who made it all the way to backrolls, I don't see why they would not find a challenge kiting. Nobody prevents them from throwing megaloops or kiteloop handlepasses.
And there is nothing like that in windsurfing.


Bullsh!t. That is the biggest load of cr@p I have ever heard, show me one non athletic person who can go out at the beach and go back and forth turning around without falling off in "no time". Also define "no time". We are talking about windSURFING here not sailing.

There is tons of challenges in Windsurfing. Turning around is harder on a small wave board windsurfing than doing a kiteloop.

Obviously you have never been windsurfing in your entire life. Next time your down the beach ask one of the poleys for a go and see how far you get... Tell me what beach your at so I can piss myself laughing at you getting dumped in the shorey.

flipper4444
VIC, 1214 posts
30 Apr 2010 12:45PM
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Whaaaat KOP has got nearly 8000 hits for his forum, dam I told you guys he was a awesome dude. Is this going to be a sticky forum??

KOP please come back to the windsurf forums it is not the same with out you



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