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Created by Marklar > 9 months ago, 13 Mar 2005
gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
23 Apr 2006 4:38PM
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durkadurka, you outdo them all, such peotry....and only after 2 posts, the wealth of perfume coming out of your brain....what pent up creativity we have been missing. keep up the good work.

braids, I'll try the link.

carbine
WA, 1440 posts
23 Apr 2006 4:41PM
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quote:
Originally posted by braids



Yeah the movie was made in 3 months, on arvos in much the same conditions if not even less to 12 knotts and the riders were really struggling. So say i got maybe 10-30 secs of footage an arvo how bout now you compare 10 seconds of the riding on my movie to the the whole WA Freestyle video, man even the crash section is better than it. And if you are still in denial after this, I put it to you to make your own movie, ill give you 3 months even for you to come up with some kind of evidence to prove why dingle dangle stuff rules.

Everyone who has been writing in this forum will look forward to that.



one kl hp just destroys your whole video. (unhooked backrolls and frontrolls, dont rate bro)

gero nationals anyone?

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
23 Apr 2006 4:46PM
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Saw the clip braids. Not bad, music samey, but ok...kiting, nothing really new here, but good athletes. Young bods taking in those landings...nice moves result.

I think y'all have marketing flair in some wierd twisted sort of way.

The technical execution of the clip that I saw was first rate...well done.

carbine
WA, 1440 posts
23 Apr 2006 4:50PM
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quote:
Originally posted by gruezi

Saw the clip braids. Not bad, music samey, but ok...kiting, nothing really new here, but good athletes. Young bods taking in those landings...nice moves result.

I think y'all have marketing flair in some wierd twisted sort of way.

The technical execution of the clip that I saw was first rate...well done.



wats happened to the west coast solidarity gruezi.

letting the side down.


west coast is da best!

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
23 Apr 2006 4:53PM
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I got dark roots......yo.

azza
1338 posts
23 Apr 2006 5:32PM
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quote:
Originally posted by braids

quote:
Originally posted by azza

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Originally posted by silviu

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(IMHO) KBM doesn't represent the people I've kited with, even the one's I've shared the occasional bender with (much thanks to all[}:)], you know who you are)




The reason why you cant relate to the mag is cause you are obiously a ** kiter and hang around with other ** kiters and also have a bender (some kind of homo erotic sex that kooks have probably) with even **ter kiters. KBM represents the athletes that are taking the sport to the next level, not the ****ers that send their kites, do board offs then come home the net say they rock and that their way is best, most probably because its all they can do and are scared to try wakestyle.

There is alot of talk about making your own 'dingle dangle' mag. Nothing would make me more happier so then you guys could go exist in your own lame little saucepan of a world, showcase your own 'extreme' photos and blow wind up each others arse. Maybe then you can stop slandering wakestyle and KBMag and do your own thing, away from the forefront of kiting and we can all forget about ya's.





The fact that you go straight to this form of insult clearly shows that homosexual thoughts are very near the surface of your conciouness. Definitely makes you sound like you're not getting it the way you want it.

I hospitalised two men, on seperate occassions, that thought my bed was an open one... I could hospitalise for other reasons too.

FYI braids,
I can easily relate to KBM, but I'll openly challenge them to lift their game.

As for "slander", look up the meaning of the word, you've clearly crossed that line.

JEFFERSON
WA, 72 posts
23 Apr 2006 10:01PM
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KBM is not a bad mag. Like all such magazines of course it is strongly influenced by the companies that advertise in it and you would be a fool to take as gospel any gear or competition reviews in any such magazine. The advertisers dollar is what immediately influences the content.

All you bleeders who are bleeding so hard need to grow up and stop reading the mag. The young guys are only calling you all **** because you are behaving like ****. Don't be jealous that dangle tricks are no longer considered to be the cutting edge of the sport. Yeah they have an element of difficulty but it has all been done a thousand times over by 20,000 people all over the world.

KBM obviously is trying to draw a younger crowd into the sport because they will be the biggest future buyers of equipment and as such that is where their income will come from in the long term. So you old fellas should do the growing up and make the choice to not buy the mag and stop moaning because your tripple front roll to splat landing is not considered cool anymore.

Jeff.

VforVendetta
WA, 13 posts
24 Apr 2006 8:41AM
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Couple of points....

1. If you dont like it(and a lot of people dont), the best thing you can do is NOT read it, they will go broke very very quickly, if their sales drop they may pick there game up and deliver a magazine that is worthy.

2. If you do want to read it, you'll get all the info you need in about 3 minutes in the newsagency.

3. KBM might want to start listening to the critics, or another local magazine will eventually be published and, more that likely kill the pig, provided it steps up to the plate.....

4. There are a lot more older kiters than younger ones simply because of the cost of the sport. Now considering this why would you cater for 15 yr old kite groms when the majority of your sport is not. Put something useful in there.

People will continue to BLEED and are happy too until KBM pick up their game. no sales = no dollars = no wages = unemployed. and if you think any publicity is good publicity, it certainly is not the case with this thread.



Get the picture.

silviu
VIC, 663 posts
24 Apr 2006 3:21PM
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The issue here is starting to be very fuzzy!!
This thread was about the quality of KBM, not about wakestile or other styles.
I think wake style is amazing, I cannot agree more with the fact that the sport has to evolve, and it is not the fact that I, or anybody else can or cannot perform the tricks on the wakeboard.
The issue dear young, and not so young kids, if you like or not, that a magazine, like this forum, are in the public domain!
And a little bit of politeness, quality of language and some sort of respect has to be adhered to!
As about those like durkadurka, out tannum_kiter and comp., as I said before: this is the price of democracy and freedom of speech: some know how to use it, and some…. express themselves like in a public toilet block.

silviu
VIC, 663 posts
24 Apr 2006 3:23PM
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Braids,

The video is absolutelly amazing.

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
24 Apr 2006 2:35PM
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quote:
Originally posted by braids

Wakestyle. (way-ke-sti-le). noun.


Commendable attempt to give the 'wakestyle' side of this 'debate' some literate validity.
Good move.
But I jus gotta tell ya bro - 'wakestyle' aint not no noun dood
Jus like neither nots 'dingle dangle'


Seeing as how I've bought into this thread heres my 2c :
I too cannot see the reasoning behind the venom spewed forth by one side from what appears to be pretty care-free expressions of personal choice or general interest from the other.
I cant really see why there's 2 sides at all. Surely a simple "I reckon this is good for these reasons.... blah blah blah" should be pretty much OK all round.
Where does all that viscous bigoted extremism come from
Totally unnecesary IMO.
Its a sport - an awesome sport whatever way/s you do it or prefer to watch

As for my own personal preference
HHhhmmmm that would have to be simply be for some "style"
- any sort of style would be fine by me.

ps braids - ur vid is awesome. Very definately shows how powered & stylish 'wakestyle' can be. Good work & some great kiting.
But hey - I love watching the big air stuff too
OMG ...... does this mean Im 'bi'

Spacemonkey!
SA, 2288 posts
24 Apr 2006 4:25PM
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I agree the viedo is good watching, especially compared to a lot of the sh1t on the net, i dont want to see pics of people cruising I dont care...

I also agee that braids is a legend in his own lunchbox, perhaps before claiming that your friggen world champs maybe see what other people are doing. Based on your video evidence and the stuff i seen you are not any better than anywhere else i have seen maybe even not as good as some places so stop claiming **** based on a short film made in one arvo and wipe your mouth your dribbling sh1t

RAL INN
SA, 2884 posts
24 Apr 2006 4:26PM
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Puppets a Bi
Puppets a Bi
Puppets a Bi
Puppets a Bi
Puppets a Bi
Puppets a Bi
Puppets a Bi...............

Now what was the question?


Now in a perfect world there would be an Austalian Kiting Mag that saw some sense in not alienating the majority of Australian Kiteboarders by including articles that seek to demean the achievements of the majority of Australian Kiteboarders.
It is just as easy to state why you think a particular style is "where it's at" without declaring other styles as inferior.
The statements of "if you don't like it, don't read it" are of no concequence, as those that don't like it, DON'T READ IT already.

If I were a publisher and trying to raise advertising revenue, I would be concerned more about the numbers not reading it, especially if that was the majority of the Advertiser's target market.

Best winds
Tony L

silviu
VIC, 663 posts
24 Apr 2006 5:37PM
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Debate:
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition.
4. Discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal;


We have 5 pages on this thread!
Are they looking as any of this definitions?
Some of the posts are: with logic and well presented arguments, acceptable language.
Others, just verbal refuse.
Why on Earth, can’t we manage a debate, without insulting? Did we run out of logic arguments? What do you think will you achieve by swearing and insulting?
Do you think this will shut us up?
You are very wrong.
This is not a debate about kitesurfing stiles, do not forget.
We are trying to make the point that the KBM has to represent the AUSTRALIAN KITESURFERS (the ones are wakeboarding, or the ones are “dangling”, the ones cruising and just having fun, the ones only starting and even the ones considering to start kitesurfing).
This is the Mag we need at this point in time?
As about you guys, the young generation, nobody can tell you which style to adopt!
It is your choice, and whatever are you doing, I will watch in amazement and with pleasure, as long as it is safe, it is not endangering the public and/or other water users.
Living in community, is a matter of respect and give up both ways.
For those so concerned about my spelling (and English) capability, you will have to excuse me, I am trying hard, however, being born overseas, English is my fourth language.

And remember what John Scot said about debates:

In my books I might hold the mirror to my own face. If others would like to borrow the mirror, they're welcome. The books aren't there to accuse others - merely to raise issues and keep the debates alive.

For those having “trouble” getting the meaning, books here = posts in the thread!!! (Sorry no offence to anybody).

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
24 Apr 2006 4:21PM
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............................naw. It is actually good for the "sport."

This is a good debate as all are in....nice curve of kiting "society." We have it all, from one extreme to another.

Shucks, English only my 4rth also.

Can't wait for The Strom Silviu.

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
24 Apr 2006 4:28PM
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quote:
Originally posted by shackle4life
use will have a big black man posing in a fluro coloured g string


Uh Oh ... uve done it now shackle
A few seconds of ecstacy then Poor Rellie will be running off for a change of boardies

silviu
VIC, 663 posts
24 Apr 2006 6:31PM
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quote:
Originally posted by gruezi

............................naw. It is actually good for the "sport."

This is a good debate as all are in....nice curve of kiting "society." We have it all, from one extreme to another.

Shucks, English only my 4rth also.

Can't wait for The Strom Silviu.



Thanks, and see you soon, very soon.....

skidsy
VIC, 31 posts
24 Apr 2006 8:32PM
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Sports should be advertised to capture the minds of the next generation.
Advertising and marketing yourself to the colostomy bagged few that might save enough of their pension to be able to afford KBM is a dead end and doesn't help anyone.
As Whitney Houston sang before she too suffered senelity "The children are our future".

Look at what you've made me do.....

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
24 Apr 2006 6:43PM
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quote:
Originally posted by puppetonastring

quote:
Originally posted by shackle4life
use will have a big black man posing in a fluro coloured g string


Uh Oh ... uve done it now shackle
A few seconds of ecstacy then Poor Rellie will be running off for a change of boardies



Talking about spilling the beans has brought to mind this little tit-bit.
Rumour has it that PR is working on a genetically modified hamster that will squeak at you with an Afro-American accent
Cant wait

poor relative
WA, 9089 posts
24 Apr 2006 6:51PM
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quote:
PR is working on a genetically modified hamster that will squeak at you with an Afro-American accent

(laughs psychotically)hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Yo yo y'all tinkin me no takin ova de world.......well you wrong man me n hammy ere.....we is a doin it
(in a stiff carribean accent)

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
24 Apr 2006 9:34PM
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hi everybody, i really like to read kite mags a lot, back to front, cover to cover. (it's part of the privilege of working in the industry) especially mid morning on the bog , and although i haven't yet got the latest kbm (bless its' bastard soul) i can tell you that all the international mags outsell it by a large margin in my retail outlet.
kbm has a great mag with a limited audience.

but......maybe thats what they want.

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
24 Apr 2006 7:46PM
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Why buy any mags at all when you can have it all online and interact as well.

Mags is old technology, much older than the dingle dangle **** we all are anyway........bring on the new, the young, the future. Print is old and dying, a slow death mind you, but it is dying.

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
24 Apr 2006 9:53PM
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nothing beats a good glossy gruezi!

coffee table stuff!

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
24 Apr 2006 7:57PM
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Now as the leader of the greenies, I would think you'de be all against killing trees...I do know what you mean though...qualified by the word "good" which is in the eye of the beholder though.

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
24 Apr 2006 10:03PM
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'good' of course is "always debatable"

maybe it is irrelevent.

calm is good.

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
24 Apr 2006 10:36PM
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oh, except when it relates to wind.

bring it on for anzac day!

remember!

CarlBevo
NSW, 609 posts
25 Apr 2006 7:20AM
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Firstly back to the topic KBM is good and getting better all the time its not perfect,(need more nudity) not for every one, it gives me a laugh, its a mag who gives a Sh!t - get over it old grumpys there bigger problems in the world and its the only one we have. The Euro mags are crap and like the Yanky mags full of bl00dy adds - KBM dont ever go down that road

As for the young and very very angry bucks how about putting your name behind ya claims so we can know who you are and can look out for you and all see how sh!t hot or not you are?

Its great to see the passion from our future champs but dont hide step up to the plate with your opinions your going nowhere whineing on here

braids
26 posts
25 Apr 2006 10:39AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Spacemonkey!

I agree the viedo is good watching, especially compared to a lot of the sh1t on the net, i dont want to see pics of people cruising I dont care...

I also agee that braids is a legend in his own lunchbox, perhaps before claiming that your friggen world champs maybe see what other people are doing. Based on your video evidence and the stuff i seen you are not any better than anywhere else i have seen maybe even not as good as some places so stop claiming **** based on a short film made in one arvo and wipe your mouth your dribbling sh1t



I never said that the people on my vid were 'world champs' at all. All they are are my mates from tannum riding and enjoying themselves. What I did say, however, was that wakestyle has the leading edge in the sport at the moment and is going to continue to progress and innovate the sport of kiteboarding. I'm also not saying that everyone should drop what your doing and adopt wakestyle, if your having fun so be it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I've expressed mine, the whole of WA has expressed theirs and I really don't see there being a winner to this arguement so how bout everyone stops whinging on the net and go ride.

azza
1338 posts
25 Apr 2006 1:57PM
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quote:
Originally posted by braids

...I never said that the people on my vid were 'world champs' at all. All they are are my mates from tannum riding and enjoying themselves. What I did say, however, was that wakestyle has the leading edge in the sport at the moment and is going to continue to progress and innovate the sport of kiteboarding. I'm also not saying that everyone should drop what your doing and adopt wakestyle, if your having fun so be it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I've expressed mine, the whole of WA has expressed theirs and I really don't see there being a winner to this arguement so how bout everyone stops whinging on the net and go ride.



Was that a "Blind to Heelside with a Handle Pass" I just saw

Could have been more impressive, if done, without the "Buck Pass"

congo abrezio
NT, 285 posts
25 Apr 2006 5:07PM
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rah rah rah rah rah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



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