Select to expand quoteWasteWarrior said..
Hi all,
Please let me know if this is not the right place to ask this. There's a 1989 23ft San Juan yacht moored out front of my place up for sale - $3,000k. It's only posted on FB otherwise I'd share a URL. It comes with 6 spare sails, mooring and 12 months' rego. However, I went to have a look and there's no motor, no trailer, no dinghy and the fouling is terrible. No hatch, no aft cabin door, bilge is full of water and bilge pump is broken, electrics are shot, seagulls and cockroaches have had a field day. He hasn't been on it in two years and he's left the sail on the boom since then. Mast is old, wires are a bit rusty, hull light is smashed, pulpit is missing a bolt etc. It's a big project but I'm up for it.
The seller is not budging on price. As an amateur I'd like to know what someone should reasonably pay for a boat in this condition. My key concern is that I won't know if there's any serious issues until it's been scraped and cleaned. Photo below to give you an idea.
There is no way it is worth $3000.
$1500 at top.
Have a look what you can get advertised for 4-5000 With negotiations you will probably get one of them.for $3000
Thanks for the advice, losing this one would hurt a bit more than others due to the fact it's already moored right in front of my house - it's perfect! Unfortunately it doesn't seem like we'll be able to lead this horse to water so to speak. I'll keep my eyes and ears to the ground in the meantime.
A 1989 boat no motor and they want you to pay for it ? Maybe an option if you really want the mooring spot, but you usually have to get in the que anyway. Tell him he's dreaming ! Select to expand quoteWasteWarrior said..
Hi all,
Please let me know if this is not the right place to ask this. There's a 1989 23ft San Juan yacht moored out front of my place up for sale - $3,000k. It's only posted on FB otherwise I'd share a URL. It comes with 6 spare sails, mooring and 12 months' rego. However, I went to have a look and there's no motor, no trailer, no dinghy and the fouling is terrible. No hatch, no aft cabin door, bilge is full of water and bilge pump is broken, electrics are shot, seagulls and cockroaches have had a field day. He hasn't been on it in two years and he's left the sail on the boom since then. Mast is old, wires are a bit rusty, hull light is smashed, pulpit is missing a bolt etc. It's a big project but I'm up for it.
The seller is not budging on price. As an amateur I'd like to know what someone should reasonably pay for a boat in this condition. My key concern is that I won't know if there's any serious issues until it's been scraped and cleaned. Photo below to give you an idea.
Select to expand quotelydia said..
Lightness is next to godliness as they used to say.
You have got that one right on the mark Lydia.
Every ounce counts.
Select to expand quoteWasteWarrior said..
Hi all,
Please let me know if this is not the right place to ask this. There's a 1989 23ft San Juan yacht moored out front of my place up for sale - $3,000k. It's only posted on FB otherwise I'd share a URL. It comes with 6 spare sails, mooring and 12 months' rego. However, I went to have a look and there's no motor, no trailer, no dinghy and the fouling is terrible. No hatch, no aft cabin door, bilge is full of water and bilge pump is broken, electrics are shot, seagulls and cockroaches have had a field day. He hasn't been on it in two years and he's left the sail on the boom since then. Mast is old, wires are a bit rusty, hull light is smashed, pulpit is missing a bolt etc. It's a big project but I'm up for it.
The seller is not budging on price. As an amateur I'd like to know what someone should reasonably pay for a boat in this condition. My key concern is that I won't know if there's any serious issues until it's been scraped and cleaned. Photo below to give you an idea.
As a benchmark, 5 years ago I paid 2500 for a 24' trailer sailer with 5hp motor, registered trailer, cushions and new sails. It was in far better nick than that.
WW, the ad might say includes the mooring but that doesn't mean a thing if there's a waiting list for that area!, in fact it could cost you to have the mooring apparatus removed , so the next person in line gets the spot, it all depends how the local RMS person is, first thing would be to find out if there's a waiting list (look online, it's easy).
If there's no waiting list, try to get the price down by about half, as boat in its current state would only be worth $1500 at best I'd say.
Having said that, there's surely no better feeling than sitting at home and looking out at your boat moored right there!
Here is a bit of class! Bit untidy but is fully equipped.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/church-point/sail-boats/contessa-25/1253984504
Select to expand quoteRamona said..
Here is a bit of class! Bit untidy but is fully equipped.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/church-point/sail-boats/contessa-25/1253984504
If that is Aquarius, she was the first one finished off for Bill Harvey at the Alfreds. Raced against her in the JOGs.
Hello,
Joined the forum last month and have been enjoying the conversations and seeing what you are all up to with your boats from here in Covid central.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fremantle-area/sail-boats/vandestadt-34-aluminium-1995-/1254531104
I'm surprised there is no discussion on this one. From my browsing it looks like it used to belong to a Seebreezer, Not sure what has happened with the current owner, but I would be interested in seeing the interior compared to what it was before the fire. Used to look very nice.
Select to expand quoteDrogueOne said..
Hello,
Joined the forum last month and have been enjoying the conversations and seeing what you are all up to with your boats from here in Covid central.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fremantle-area/sail-boats/vandestadt-34-aluminium-1995-/1254531104
I'm surprised there is no discussion on this one. From my browsing it looks like it used to belong to a Seebreezer, Not sure what has happened with the current owner, but I would be interested in seeing the interior compared to what it was before the fire. Used to look very nice.
Nice price!
Select to expand quotelydia said..
Sunstone is for sale in NZ for USD 110k
End of thread!
very nice set up !!!
Select to expand quoteSandS said..lydia said..
Sunstone is for sale in NZ for USD 110k
End of thread!
very nice set up !!!
Only boat you will ever need!!
Everything else is just irrelevant
Select to expand quotelydia said..SandS said..lydia said..
Sunstone is for sale in NZ for USD 110k
End of thread!
very nice set up !!!
Only boat you will ever need!!
Everything else is just irrelevant
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/-sunstone-classic-s-s-40-design-1786/237081
Actually came across this last night while browsing and I was stopped in my tracks, a truely beautiful yacht.
If I have this right, Vikki is part of the Aisher family as in Yeoman boats.
Heritage everywhere.
Search some of their trips.
Stunning boat. Hopefully the new owner will have the patience to keep her alive and beautiful in the future.
Select to expand quotetobz said..
Im very tempted by this farr as a liveaboard
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/farr-37/249037
1st time poster been lurking for a while.....
spoke to the owner today. has a few interested in it. but he is not local to the boat and not available to be at boat for a couple of weeks. My interest is in a full time cruiser. Its Sydney to Hobart pedigree is impressive, to me at least
If you are talking about this the advert states "Lead bulb design by David Lyons".
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/farr-37/249037
Select to expand quoteDrogueOne said..
Hello,
Joined the forum last month and have been enjoying the conversations and seeing what you are all up to with your boats from here in Covid central.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fremantle-area/sail-boats/vandestadt-34-aluminium-1995-/1254531104
I'm surprised there is no discussion on this one. From my browsing it looks like it used to belong to a Seebreezer, Not sure what has happened with the current owner, but I would be interested in seeing the interior compared to what it was before the fire. Used to look very nice.
A lot of people on here are anti metal boats so you wont see many on this thread.
I have a steel van de stadt btw.
Select to expand quoteWasteWarrior said..
Thanks for the advice, losing this one would hurt a bit more than others due to the fact it's already moored right
As Blue Moon says the question is whether you can get the mooring. I would give my left nut to be able to overlook my boat , presumably that means you could also walk to it . The boat is irrelevant at that sort of money, l would pay 5 times that price if it means you get the spot, give the boat away and get another cheaply. Imho anyone quibbling over a few grand cant afford to own a boat on a mooring anyway, you should be getting into a cheap trailer sailer.
It's finally gone!
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425
Lovely boat and I wish the new owner well.
Select to expand quotestray said..
A lot of people on here are anti metal boats so you wont see many on this thread.
I have a steel van de stadt btw.
I like plywood also.
Took me a while to work out this one
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kettering/sail-boats/sailing-boat-1974-van-de-stadt-28/1254425861
Think it is an Attila design No 120, there is almost nothing about them on them on the web.
Select to expand quoteDrogueOne said..stray said..
A lot of people on here are anti metal boats so you wont see many on this thread.
I have a steel van de stadt btw.
I like plywood also.
Took me a while to work out this one
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kettering/sail-boats/sailing-boat-1974-van-de-stadt-28/1254425861
Think it is an Attila design No 120, there is almost nothing about them on them on the web.
Nice boat, and cheap.
they were ahead of their time the early plywood van de stadts. Flat and fast but stamped out by the chine haters and the ior rule.
Select to expand quotestray said..DrogueOne said..stray said..
A lot of people on here are anti metal boats so you wont see many on this thread.
I have a steel van de stadt btw.
I like plywood also.
Took me a while to work out this one
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kettering/sail-boats/sailing-boat-1974-van-de-stadt-28/1254425861
Think it is an Attila design No 120, there is almost nothing about them on them on the web.
Nice boat, and cheap.
they were ahead of their time the early plywood van de stadts. Flat and fast but stamped out by the chine haters and the ior rule.
+1.
Always liked the van de stadts. There's a Primaat not far from me, and i often see a well kept Thunderbird sailing on the river. Looks great going upwind. I reckon this one is a good buy.
Select to expand quoteDrogueOne said..stray said..
A lot of people on here are anti metal boats so you wont see many on this thread.
I have a steel van de stadt btw.
I like plywood also.
Took me a while to work out this one
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kettering/sail-boats/sailing-boat-1974-van-de-stadt-28/1254425861
Think it is an Attila design No 120, there is almost nothing about them on them on the web.
Firecrest was a consistently campaigned boat in the late 90s (was it that long ago!?) when I raced against her. Not the quickest boat in the division, but not the slowest. Always well maintained in those days.
Select to expand quoter13 said..
If you are talking about this the advert states "Lead bulb design by David Lyons".
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/farr-37/249037
Thought it did not look quite right for the Jutson bulb, but the fin looks like the Jutson fin which was a common retrofit for the class to get over 1115AVS
Select to expand quoteAzure305 said..stray said..
Nice boat, and cheap.
they were ahead of their time the early plywood van de stadts. Flat and fast but stamped out by the chine haters and the ior rule.
+1.
Always liked the van de stadts. There's a Primaat not far from me, and i often see a well kept Thunderbird sailing on the river. Looks great going upwind. I reckon this one is a good buy.Select to expand quoteAll@Sea said..
Firecrest was a consistently campaigned boat in the late 90s (was it that long ago!?) when I raced against her. Not the quickest boat in the division, but not the slowest. Always well maintained in those days.
Just looked up the Primaat, looks like the Attila is it's bigger brother. Firecrest is quite unusual with the tumblehome and the coach house sides being an extension of the upper strake. Also unusual in it is cold molded at the turn of the bilge. Be nice to see some out of the water pictures.
What caught my eye was the hull shape, like a smaller Black Soo. There used to be a guy who sailed one in the Bay Area SSS, called Starbuck, It was a giant killing combination.
From my digging Firecrest was sailed by the original builder/owner until about 8 years ago and has one owner since then. Obviously kept the maintenance up, the add says the rigging was done two years ago.
Be a nice buy for someone not afraid of old plywood.
Yes Dudley Dix used what he termed radiused chine in 1994 as per here - 20 years after Van de Stadt.
www.dixdesign.com/radply.htm
Now even most of the frozen snot yachts are using chines..........
Select to expand quoteDrogueOne said..Azure305 said..stray said..
Nice boat, and cheap.
they were ahead of their time the early plywood van de stadts. Flat and fast but stamped out by the chine haters and the ior rule.
+1.
Always liked the van de stadts. There's a Primaat not far from me, and i often see a well kept Thunderbird sailing on the river. Looks great going upwind. I reckon this one is a good buy.All@Sea said..
Firecrest was a consistently campaigned boat in the late 90s (was it that long ago!?) when I raced against her. Not the quickest boat in the division, but not the slowest. Always well maintained in those days.
Just looked up the Primaat, looks like the Attila is it's bigger brother. Firecrest is quite unusual with the tumblehome and the coach house sides being an extension of the upper strake. Also unusual in it is cold molded at the turn of the bilge. Be nice to see some out of the water pictures.
What caught my eye was the hull shape, like a smaller Black Soo. There used to be a guy who sailed one in the Bay Area SSS, called Starbuck, It was a giant killing combination.
From my digging Firecrest was sailed by the original builder/owner until about 8 years ago and has one owner since then. Obviously kept the maintenance up, the add says the rigging was done two years ago.
Be a nice buy for someone not afraid of old plywood.
Yep, Primaat is 24', Thunderbird is 26'.
I've never seen one like the one under discussion, but it looks good, and with a VDS pedigree it's already got good creds.
