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Sail the world with me

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Created by Trav1979 > 9 months ago, 4 Jul 2015
Trav1979
9 posts
4 Jul 2015 7:40PM
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Hi,

I am new to sailing but have just had a change in my personal circumstances and have the opportunity to fullfil my dream, take some time out and sail a boat from the US back to OZ.

I am looking for someone to come with me.

I am 36 years old. Single and I am an Executive with an international company.

My ideal sailing mate would be my age or younger. With open ocean sailing experience.( a lot more than me)

I will buy the boat and cover most of the expenses.

Please let me know if you are interested or if you have any ideas on how I can get some candidates.

Cheers
Trav

Offthegrid
WA, 123 posts
4 Jul 2015 10:05PM
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Which boat?

MorningBird
NSW, 2662 posts
5 Jul 2015 12:47AM
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Gee Trav, you could get a job writing Nigerian email scams. When do you need the contribution to free up your funds?
Could you provide a few details to verify who you are, what type of boat, the journey etc.
My apologies, I am a sailor. Superstitious and suspicious.

Toph
WA, 1832 posts
5 Jul 2015 2:12AM
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With all these first time posters this week, it might have something to do with school holidays.

That being said, I'm down for a Pacific trip

Toph
WA, 1832 posts
5 Jul 2015 2:13AM
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Ps, I am male................... Do I still fit the brief???

Trav1979
9 posts
5 Jul 2015 7:46AM
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hahaha no scam. Would probably go a Jeanneau 42 or bigger. I would actually need a hand picking the right one. I reckon if i got the purchase right I can almost cover the cost of the year away in the profit on the boat? maybe.

I am 36 live in Sydney and I am recently single after 8 years.


bubble7777
QLD, 191 posts
5 Jul 2015 10:08AM
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Trav1979 said..
hahaha no scam. Would probably go a Jeanneau 42 or bigger. I would actually need a hand picking the right one. I reckon if i got the purchase right I can almost cover the cost of the year away in the profit on the boat? maybe.

I am 36 live in Sydney and I am recently single after 8 years.




profit and boat. those words do not belong in the same sentence

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
5 Jul 2015 10:18AM
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Too right Bubble. I'll have to keep an eye on this thread.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
5 Jul 2015 11:57AM
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with the dollar the way it is against the US $ you may be better buying a boat here or in greece .


If you do go to the US or Canada , The " Island Packets " should be on your list, as well as " Naughticat "


they are well built cruising yachts . Jenno,s are built to a price point to meet the rental market . In other words light weight and thin.


good luck on your adventure . its very doable especially if you have someone on board with you that you get along with. and if you can follow another boat that has experienced skipper on board .

Trav1979
9 posts
5 Jul 2015 10:09AM
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Thanks for the advice

Trav1979
9 posts
5 Jul 2015 10:11AM
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Hi Mate,

How much experience do you have?

Cheers
Trav

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
5 Jul 2015 2:25PM
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Trav1979 said..
Thanks for the advice


Sent you a PM.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
5 Jul 2015 6:07PM
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Trav1979 said..
Hi Mate,

How much experience do you have?

Cheers
Trav



racing mostly , and a few hundred mile coastal passages . ................... zero cross ocean experience !!

i,m not a candidate for your trip

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
5 Jul 2015 6:22PM
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SandS said..

Trav1979 said..
Hi Mate,

How much experience do you have?

Cheers
Trav




racing mostly , and a few hundred mile coastal passages . ................... zero cross ocean experience !!

i,m not a candidate for your trip

SandS was originally deported from England Trav

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
5 Jul 2015 6:25PM
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There is a mob here in Oz that gets groups of sailors buying boat in USA and sailing them back together ( safety in Numbers sort of) That was a couple of years ago not sure if its still going

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
5 Jul 2015 6:47PM
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two, three or four boats would be ideal ..........it would allow for crew to be swapped around to suit different situations

Trav1979
9 posts
6 Jul 2015 11:03AM
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hey guys,

That sounds great.

Any idea how i would proceed further?

Yara
NSW, 1273 posts
6 Jul 2015 4:34PM
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If its a second hand boat it is likely to need some work before you can cross an ocean like the Pacific. Have you costed this? Also 5% import duty, 10% GST, fumigation, customs clearance etc.

Ramona
NSW, 7571 posts
6 Jul 2015 7:00PM
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Boat has to be registered as an Australian ship before you depart. Add Gst for the diesel and victuals to your costing too.

Deck cargo to an Australian port like Newcastle is probably the cheapest way to do it.

Personally I would wait till one of the American cruisers put their boats on the local market to sell it instead of sailing uphill home.

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
6 Jul 2015 7:46PM
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Yara said..
If its a second hand boat it is likely to need some work before you can cross an ocean like the Pacific. Have you costed this? Also 5% import duty, 10% GST, fumigation, customs clearance etc.


Buy a US built boat and you fore go that 5% duty, unfortunately the 10% GST on the costs of getting the boat here still apply.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
6 Jul 2015 8:25PM
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trav please see other thread on mottle 33 .......... a lot closer, and bargain !!!! perfect first yacht !

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2531 posts
6 Jul 2015 10:48PM
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Ramona said..
Boat has to be registered as an Australian ship before you depart. Add Gst for the diesel and victuals to your costing too.

Deck cargo to an Australian port like Newcastle is probably the cheapest way to do it.

Personally I would wait till one of the American cruisers put their boats on the local market to sell it instead of sailing uphill home.


What Ramona said. For reference, I am shipping a 40" boat out from Europe in the next couple of months and the freight bill for deck cargo is approx AUS$40K.
Try Fiji for an easier sail home. The last time I was there a couple of years ago quite a few US boats were parked up for sale. Locals were telling me the owners apparently made it is as far as Fiji, bailed and went home, turns out life on the water is not for all.

southace
SA, 4773 posts
6 Jul 2015 10:45PM
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Nice offer though,

if you do it the other way round ! (I have the yacht) and pay someone for your expiernce you may come better off than what your proposing.
But I must add you must look good in a bikini! Haha

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
6 Jul 2015 11:19PM
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Shaggybaxter said..

Ramona said..
Boat has to be registered as an Australian ship before you depart. Add Gst for the diesel and victuals to your costing too.

Deck cargo to an Australian port like Newcastle is probably the cheapest way to do it.

Personally I would wait till one of the American cruisers put their boats on the local market to sell it instead of sailing uphill home.



What Ramona said. For reference, I am shipping a 40" boat out from Europe in the next couple of months and the freight bill for deck cargo is approx AUS$40K.
Try Fiji for an easier sail home. The last time I was there a couple of years ago quite a few US boats were parked up for sale. Locals were telling me the owners apparently made it is as far as Fiji, bailed and went home, turns out life on the water is not for all.


www.yachtworld.com/boats-for-sale/

southace
SA, 4773 posts
6 Jul 2015 11:07PM
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Fly to a foreign place and buy some yacht from 1988 yeah right! And no bikinis?

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
7 Jul 2015 12:55AM
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Shaggybaxter said..

Try Fiji for an easier sail home. The last time I was there a couple of years ago quite a few US boats were parked up for sale. Locals were telling me the owners apparently made it is as far as Fiji, bailed and went home, turns out life on the water is not for all.


The same applies to SE Asia, mainly Australian boats, the owners get there and then don't know where to go next. To go West means venturing into pirate country and to go East is a long trip that will tax their sailing skills. Or the wife suddenly decides that she doesn't like sailing and the boat gets left up there.

QueenBee2
9 posts
7 Jul 2015 7:34AM
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Does gst apply to boats over 2 years old??
when I moved countries gst was payable only on items newer than 2 years old. Is this different for boats?

trav my pic pic would be the beneteau 43 Cyclades , as seen in "la vagabonde" you tube vids. theres about 4/5 currently
for sale in different part of the world from 80-120 usd.

Trav1979
9 posts
7 Jul 2015 10:24AM
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No 1988 I was thinking 2008 plus.

PS Im 6'5 weigh 105kg so look ok in shorts but no bikini:)

Trav1979
9 posts
7 Jul 2015 10:25AM
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Cheers for the advice I really want a two cabin layout with a big master

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
7 Jul 2015 1:12PM
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QueenBee2 said..
Does gst apply to boats over 2 years old??
when I moved countries gst was payable only on items newer than 2 years old. Is this different for boats?

trav my pic pic would be the beneteau 43 Cyclades , as seen in "la vagabonde" you tube vids. theres about 4/5 currently
for sale in different part of the world from 80-120 usd.




GST is payable on the cost of getting the boat here eg. fuel, food, and any other associated costs. If the boat was built in a country with which we do not have a trade agreement with then there will also be a 5% import duty regardless of age.

The Beneteau Cyclades would be amongst my last choices, these really are what the Yanks call a "Chlorox Bottle" boat. Built very cheap to be put into charter fleets,very low standard of build with almost no stowage facility, the very thing you need on a long crossing. Before anyone starts and says, yeah but "La Vagabonde" is doing it, yes they are and at the moment are having incredible luck with their boat, even though they had to strengthen the rudder tube, I feel at some point in time they will also have to substantially strengthen the stem fitting as there have been a few of the Cyclades tha thave pulled theirs out of the hull.
Having said all that, they are fine as a coastal cruiser or as a giant floating party barge that belongs to a hire company.

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
7 Jul 2015 1:39PM
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LooseChange said..

QueenBee2 said..
Does gst apply to boats over 2 years old??
when I moved countries gst was payable only on items newer than 2 years old. Is this different for boats?

trav my pic pic would be the beneteau 43 Cyclades , as seen in "la vagabonde" you tube vids. theres about 4/5 currently
for sale in different part of the world from 80-120 usd.





GST is payable on the cost of getting the boat here eg. fuel, food, and any other associated costs. If the boat was built in a country with which we do not have a trade agreement with then there will also be a 5% import duty regardless of age.

The Beneteau Cyclades would be amongst my last choices, these really are what the Yanks call a "Chlorox Bottle" boat. Built very cheap to be put into charter fleets,very low standard of build with almost no stowage facility, the very thing you need on a long crossing. Before anyone starts and says, yeah but "La Vagabonde" is doing it, yes they are and at the moment are having incredible luck with their boat, even though they had to strengthen the rudder tube, I feel at some point in time they will also have to substantially strengthen the stem fitting as there have been a few of the Cyclades tha thave pulled theirs out of the hull.
Having said all that, they are fine as a coastal cruiser or as a giant floating party barge that belongs to a hire company.


Given the yanks have brought the Hunter and the Catalina into the world they have a cheek to diss a Cyclades, even the charter companies wont touch them.



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